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I guess i´ll be back someday when it goes FTP so i can fihish leveling my main left at lvl 47....
I was bored before reaching lvl cap..
I guess 3 more lvls won´t be that painfull without having to pay a sub again....
What pisses me off is this:
When you decide to let your subscription lapse, your account will automatically be downgraded and it will operate under the Free player restrictions. You will need to choose what items to keep with you within the restriction levels of the free access. Furthermore, you will be able to see, but not use, your excess credits, inventory slots, bank tabs, and extra characters.
Another one of those foolish half-assed decisions. They want to go the F2P route of LOTRO and other games, but if you want to drop out of the sub for a time you don't actually get to KEEP the stuff you've made over months of play?
Way to piss off your long-standing customers.
The game should at least have a free->silver->gold / premium acount type, with silver being for people who have paid for something in the game and who get to keep what they attained.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
Ok. First, fix the typo in the first sentence lulz.
and second.... BLAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all i can say to this announcement! HA!!!!
Playing: Smite, Marvel HeroesPlayed: Nexus:Kingdom of the Winds, Everquest, DAoC, Everquest 2, WoW, Matrix Online, Vangaurd, SWG, DDO, EVE, Fallen Earth, LoTRo, CoX, Champions Online, WAR, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Guild Wars, Rift, Tera, Aion, AoC, Gods and Heroes, DCUO, FF14, TSW, SWTOR, GW2, Wildstar, ESO, ArcheAgeWaiting On: Nothing. Mmorpg's are dead.
Knew this was coming. Companies now a days don't seem to have a clue how to make a MMORPG. They failed the minute they decided that the personal storty and cinematics of the game were far more important than the actual gameplay, immersion of the world they created and content. To not have a MMO star wars game without actual space content (seriously, space on rails? WTF??) was a disaster, and to not even really seriously consider it was just incopetence. Another failing was the fact that they didn't really seem to realize just how important it is/was to frequently do content update/patches. Now they are saying they will do this every 6 weeks, with a staff they gutted? Really Bioware, I mean REALLY?? How clueless can a company/developers get?
I had no problem with them going into the MMORPG market with their franchised single player RPG, but they should have done a whole lot more research into it because it seems like they didn't have a clue. Letting EA become involed, and by that token letting Mythic 'help' them ( after they just proved how much they "knew" by the disaster that was WAR), pretty much every MMORPG gamer seen this coming.
Originally posted by MikeB Originally posted by garrett first again...
I'll get you, Gadget!
You know MikeB, I'm sure they decided this after this site clearly proved that the Hybrid Model is the best pricing model for MMORPG's.
(I like B2P, but apparently BioWare agreed with you!)
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
I think they picked the wrong model to start with, and this one isnt much better.
A game like this should have been Buy to Play like GW1 and GW2. With expansions on the story every 6 months.
Free to play that lets players see the whole story (pretty much the only thing worthwhile in the game) won't bring them in any money because the end game is bad.
Originally posted by Fadedbomb So yea, totally called this (albeit a couple months over my estimation as I predicted it'd go F2P by the end of June) prior to SWTOR's release, and I was called a troll / hater? SWTOR is what it is, a very bad singleplayer game with COOP elements. Sorry, it's not an MMO, and it most certainly isn't "Fun". What a waste of the StarWars IP. Also, internal discussion @ LA is that if SWTOR's license is canceled there will NEVER be another StarWars MMO. Ever.... They plan to shoot primarily for Console only games, or Social gaming on Mobile products. Such a pathetic company :I.
Even after this debacle, peeps will still buy and play a SW MMO. Saying no to cash has never been a behavior for LA.
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
Originally posted by Rossboss Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW. That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.
Not really. No. If the transactions are done correctly for the correct items (no gear). The transactions that are of the devil are those the restrict content, which is like a REALLY old system that LOTRO uses still to this day. Basically they are proving that they are still behind the times even in F2P.
I, personally, am completely shocked that SWTOR is going free to play. I believe I speak for all of us when I say that NO ONE could have predicted this.
Content Writer for RTSGuru.comAnd overall bitter old man.
Originally posted by Foomerang I'm gonna predict a Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December.
Why do you need to predict anything?????????????????????????????????????
SWTOR was not the second coming that it was hyped to be, just like so many other games that get the same kind of hype. Too many people really thought they were getting SWG 2.0 and just jumped aboard blindly. To those of us who actually did our homework, we knew what we were getting - and except for the Illum debacle, we pretty much got what they promised.
With the move to f2p, as long as they do what they are saying and don't cross the lines to p2w, I think it wil be a positive thing. It will not only allow people to give the game a chance and see it for what it is( rather than relying on the hate obsessed people on so many game forums), but it will allow the in game community (which, on my server at least, is one of the best I have seen since UO) to grow and flourish.
It is all about how EA/BW handles this - if they do it right it could be great, but they have to do it right. Personally, after reading the provided material on the SWTOR site, I am going to just maintain my sub for simplicity sake - but I know some people who are more apt to get into (or back into) the game since they no longer have to commit.
the polling here was right. F2P in a year.
Originally posted by itgrowls Originally posted by Rossboss Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW. That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.
That's the issue. The ideal F2P model gives the opportunity to players to pay for things they like or want that make them look cool/different in order to support the company and developer. The problem is that SWTOR isn't an innovator, already has so much content planned for a userbase that is rapidly leaving, and doesn't really have anything to draw players in to pay for this stuff. I still think GW series has the best business model, pay for the game, no subscription.
LoL is a prime example of how the cash shop should ideally function. You can pay for this stuff if you want to, or you can play to achieve this stuff. Some aesthetics are purchasable and boosts if you really want to support your game's developement.
I played WoW up until WotLK, played RoM for 2 years and now Rift.I am F2P player. I support games when I feel they deserve my money and I want the items enough.I don't troll, and I don't take kindly to trolls.
I'm usually not the one to say I toad a so but you know what? I toad a so... I fucking toad a so.
On a more serious note, EA has a bunch of clueless people in charge of their MMOs.
and the best game on the market just got better.
O'doyle Rules! /throws the goat
btw Does anyone remember EA-Bioware basically bashing f2p and freemium models for Swtor cause it does not allow for enough quality?
It was like 8 months ago? just before Swtor launch?
Well to be honest im kinda glad this happens. It shows that the future of western MMO's are hybrid..
If i like a game i would happely pay the 15dollars a month, but then i expect EVERYTHING is free = Content, looks everything!!
F2P i think these days should be the standard. I believe that having item shops is the way to go. This game is one of those games where I wouldn't play it if I didn't have to commit to the $15, in fact, I think i let my sub run for a month without playing before I finally remembered to shut it off. I can see myself playing in the future if its free. Seeing as its Star Wars, item shops are a really good proposition since Star Wars thrives off collectables. An item shop would literally be a collectables shop. A characteristic that not many other games can boast.
Originally posted by Dalmont F2P i guess is the model for crap. Real games are subscription :P
Yea because first paying for a game and then 14 dollar a month is...normal and I wanna do it?...lol. :P
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in uncontrolled laughter and were suddenly echoed. I fear something laughable has happened.
Typical EA, FTP but pay to win, nice!
A game that already did a poor job of capturing the essence of Star Wars will become even less attached to the IP when inundated with players who are not fans of the setting.
Good luck with that.
When all has been said and done, more will have been said than done.