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Originally posted by Xobdnas I need to get this out of the way, blaahahaha, called it. Ok... So do they refund all the people that supported it with $15 a month up til that point?
I really think this is kind of a double-edged sword for EA/BW and fans of the game.
First, it's basically an admission that the game failed in its intended business model. EA/BW intended SWTOR to be a subscription money maker, and going F2P proves that, that didn't work out as they planned.
But second, I think it's actually a good thing for the game. I always said that SWTOR felt more like a CORPG ala GW, than it felt like an actual MMORPG with a lively world, player economy, etc. etc. So I thought B2P would have been a good thing for the game...I didn't want to be forced to pay a sub free for a game that I regarded as basically a CORPG.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Useless. They are soo deep in the hole, the ftp model is going to have to be very restrictive in the hopes people will spend money.
Originally posted by FoomerangI'm gonna predict a Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December.
We can only dream.
7 months is that a record?
Jesus christ seriously? I even like SWTOR but this is death of the game.
Originally posted by ignore_me Originally posted by Foomerang Can we have SWG back now?
lol no doubt
Originally posted by bcbully 7 months is that a record?
APB lasted like a month.
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P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Originally posted by GamerUntouch It's funny because the game's actually pay2win now. F2P players can't do operations, which are raids. Raids give the best gear. if you don't pay you can't get the best gear.
Just wait for their cash shop. It is EA after all. Remember Swtor is getting one, freemium style.
Not initial cash shop, wait for what will be in it 6+ months after freemium transition. (or earlier if they really want / need some of those 200 mln $ invested money back).
even as F2P they will have a hard time with so many better games out there and new ones coming out.
Originally posted by gasperk even as F2P they will have a hard time with so many better games out there and new ones coming out.
true, at least they can be competitive now though.
Originally posted by GamerUntouch Originally posted by bcbully 7 months is that a record?
Eh, yeah, but that wasn't really an mmorpg. It was more like a mutliplayer FPS. Sort of a different vein.
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They must have lost hundreds of thousands be down to less than 250k subs now for them to do this so quickly. Server consolidations, free to play. The game didn't even make it a year, before it sank, ouch.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMkDark Age of Camelot
I think they will find their income from this game will increase. Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.
Originally posted by Fendel84M Not that I hate the game, it wasnt for me...buuut...anyone notice the game doesn't seem to have any hardcore defenders on this site anymore?
I know a couple and I've noticed slowly that they have begun to recede in their convictions about just how bad this game is. it's not new i've seen it before on this website, the people who are fanatics without being objective about the reality of the situation usually suddenly become more objective later on after being crazed about a title.
On this site tho I've noticed people have completely disappeared when it comes to this subject because despite popular belief, GW2 is not the most hyped game ever, it was SWTOR that definitely started the trend (and i hate the hyped word as it's usually used wrong) in this case, SWTOR devs directly did hype their game by making it seem like one would start their game and notice right away that what they would be doing while playing is completely new and that it was the best gaming experience.
Originally posted by Ozmodan I think they will find their income from this game will increase. Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.
That depends on people playing it.
F2P is the future even in the west. Sorry for those of you who don't want to admit this, but it's true. Subscriptions are dying, people don't want an added bill these days when they have no guarantee of tangible content or material for their money each month. New games launching are going right off the bat with F2P or B2P approaches, or mixes of both. It's just what it is, I'm excited to see the more aggressive approach to content.
Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW.
That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.
I played WoW up until WotLK, played RoM for 2 years and now Rift.I am F2P player. I support games when I feel they deserve my money and I want the items enough.I don't troll, and I don't take kindly to trolls.
I miss SWG ...
But what is there that anyone would spend $ on? The character perks? Legacy gear? Pets? Different colored speeders or light sabers? None of those are even worth spending credits on. There isn't enough in the game that is desireable. It's just too simple of a game.
Originally posted by Tayah Originally posted by Phaleg31 Now, can Daniel Erickson and the game director, forgot the name, PLEASE BE FIRED NOW? WOULD SOMEONE OVER THERE DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE THOSE TWO KNUCKLEHEADS THEIR WALKING PAPERS?
James Ohlen that buggeyed egotistical imbecile.
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So yea, totally called this (albeit a couple months over my estimation as I predicted it'd go F2P by the end of June) prior to SWTOR's release, and I was called a troll / hater?
SWTOR is what it is, a very bad singleplayer game with COOP elements. Sorry, it's not an MMO, and it most certainly isn't "Fun".
What a waste of the StarWars IP.
Also, internal discussion @ LA is that if SWTOR's license is canceled there will NEVER be another StarWars MMO. Ever....
They plan to shoot primarily for Console only games, or Social gaming on Mobile products. Such a pathetic company :I.
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SWTOR is not going free to play, there is no need to panic.
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