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  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon

    I was pretty upset about this until I experienced GW2 pvp. It's not as good as open world but it's as good or better than any instanced pvp I've experienced.

  • BeackerBeacker Newbury, MAPosts: 420Member
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    I was pretty upset about this until I experienced GW2 pvp. It's not as good as open world but it's as good or better than any instanced pvp I've experienced.

    I felt the exact same way. I love Open World PVP. But the WvW maps are so big I felt like I was in Open world anyways so it is not so bad after all. I loved it and had a blast with my friend.

  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member
    Originally posted by raystantz

    I've looked all over and cannot really find an exact answer to this.

     

    I've seen this "WvWvW" stuff, but that still looks instanced to me.

    I'm talking about open world pvp. I'm guessing guild wars 2 doesn't have it?

    If not, I'll probably pass on this one.. tired of instanced PVP games.

     ... but... but... you like FFXI.

    You should probably enjoy games for what they are, rather than what they aren't.

    FFXI wasn't exactly an open world pvp fest. :)

  • RizelStarRizelStar Raleigh, NCPosts: 2,773Member

    Was this thread necro'd

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  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Was this thread necro'd

    Looks like it.

    And damnit, now I miss my necro =/.

    I dunno if the OP is even still active in this thread, but it basically amounts to this:

    If you want the type of PvP where you are ganking lowbies while they are questing, go play TERA.

    If you want DAoC style PvP, on a larger scale with more siege equipment, you'll like WvW just fine. They're still tweaking the population caps, but I think each area can fit around ~800 or so players x 4 zones = ~3400 players or so.

  • Skarecrow7Skarecrow7 Oshkosh, WIPosts: 339Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Was this thread necro'd

    Yeah, but it was done by someone with a legit qustion about WvW (that has been answered).

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,783Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by raystantz

    I've looked all over and cannot really find an exact answer to this.

     

    I've seen this "WvWvW" stuff, but that still looks instanced to me.

    I'm talking about open world pvp. I'm guessing guild wars 2 doesn't have it?

    If not, I'll probably pass on this one.. tired of instanced PVP games.

    the game has 2 worlds, just like Guild Wars 1 had. One world for pve and another world for PvP (WvWvW aka the mists)

    also instanced pvp like every other mmo has, aside from the ginormous wvwvw world.

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  • xalvixalvi brooklyn, NYPosts: 329Member

    No open world pvp, that makes me sad. If they don't update pvp with content then im afraid im going to have to leave this awesome game :(

    I can not stay in a gamee that has WvW for 2 weeks and 3 maps of sPVP, but im sure pvp will get lots of update so im not really stressing.

  • SiphaedSiphaed Everywhere!Posts: 879Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Clawzon

    How big will this wvwvwvwwwv zone be (compared to a wow, war, swtor, aoc or lotro zones for ex) and how many players will it be in there when it's full?

    Why was this thread Necroed?   You should have started a new thread instead.
    Originally posted by xalvi

    No open world pvp, that makes me sad. If they don't update pvp with content then im afraid im going to have to leave this awesome game :(

    I can not stay in a gamee that has WvW for 2 weeks and 3 maps of sPVP, but im sure pvp will get lots of update so im not really stressing.

     

     

    I'll show you both something amazing about the Wx3 (WvWvW):

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Ce3pryjqI&feature=plcp


  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,357Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by raystantz

    I've looked all over and cannot really find an exact answer to this.

     

    I've seen this "WvWvW" stuff, but that still looks instanced to me.

    I'm talking about open world pvp. I'm guessing guild wars 2 doesn't have it?

    If not, I'll probably pass on this one.. tired of instanced PVP games.

    but you rather play FF pvp?

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  • aspekxaspekx Brandon, FLPosts: 2,167Member

    wait! Planetside2 has NO world PvE??

    totally gonna pass on this one.

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,065Member Uncommon

    This game conisist out of 5 parts...

     

    1. an Open world for PvE, with Dynamic events

    2. an Open world for PvP, for WvW purposes

    3. Many small instanced parts of the world are used for the personal story

    4. Special PvP instances for sPvP

    5. Dungeon instances part of Personal stories but also for grouping

     

    All these parts a very much sepperated from eachother which makes WvWvW its own open world PvP zone.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,041Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by xalvi

    No open world pvp, that makes me sad. If they don't update pvp with content then im afraid im going to have to leave this awesome game :(

    I can not stay in a gamee that has WvW for 2 weeks and 3 maps of sPVP, but im sure pvp will get lots of update so im not really stressing.

    That is 4 huge maps hanging together, and a bunch of smaller for 5 Vs 5.

    Each of those 4 maps supports 3 x 100 players. You wont see open world PvP alá EQ or Lineage in GW2, the game is just too much against ganking.

  • otacuotacu BolzanoPosts: 547Member

    WvWvW is not instanced.

    Battlegrounds are instanced.

     

     

    WvWvW is open world pvp without pve gankers and griefers = AWESOME

    Yeah people that think owpvp is to gank lower levels are going to be disappointed... but who cares?

    And do not reply "noooo i only attack players equal to my level ! I want a fair fight "

    Then go to wvwvw and stop whining there is no owpvp

    (or go play a sandbox)

  • biogermbiogerm somewherePosts: 169Member

    didnt noticed the nerco in the corner.

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  • ThaneThane berlinPosts: 2,232Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by chelan

    wait! Planetside2 has NO world PvE??

    totally gonna pass on this one.

    +1, nice trolling, i like :P

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  • ThaneThane berlinPosts: 2,232Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Terminus-Est

    It does seem a bit odd that in a game called Guild Wars there is no facility for allowing guilds to actually go to war.

    i thnk tournaments will work for that, no?

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  • WhyhateWhyhate LazioPosts: 41Member
    Not every game has to have open world PVP...OWPVP never works in themeparks where there is no consequences for dying or killing other players, people behave like $&#heads when they can just gank all day without any risk, take Aion for example, oh boy that was terrible... and if someone somehow killed the ganker, he would show up again in 30 minutes.

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  • frestonfreston orensePosts: 521Member

    I dont think it has open world pvp in  the sense wow had in which you coudl get slaughtered by someone 20 levels above you while killng tigers in stranglethorn....and thank god it doesnt. 

    On second thoughts,  maybe wow system would have worked with GW2 level autoscaling and no gear based pvp features installed.... even so i prefer to keep pve and pvp separated, a matter of tastes i suppose

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,524Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by otacu

    WvWvW is not instanced.

    Battlegrounds are instanced.

     

     

    WvWvW is open world pvp without pve gankers and griefers = AWESOME

    Yeah people that think owpvp is to gank lower levels are going to be disappointed... but who cares?

    And do not reply "noooo i only attack players equal to my level ! I want a fair fight "

    Then go to wvwvw and stop whining there is no owpvp

    (or go play a sandbox)

    Incorrect.

     

    WvWvW is instanced.  It is simply of a longer duration than the battlegrounds.  During the first few days I believe the "matches" will last for a day.. eventually for 2 weeks.  Then the "game" ends,  INSTANCE resets and new "teams" are paired up for the next match.  We won't even mention the population cap on the maps...

    I hope it turns out to be fun, but  it is NOT Open World PvP.

     

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  • KillHurtKillHurt Dallas, CAPosts: 347Member

    Unclear as to what exactly we are even discussing at this point...

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  • otacuotacu BolzanoPosts: 547Member
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by otacu

    WvWvW is not instanced.

    Battlegrounds are instanced.

     

     

    WvWvW is open world pvp without pve gankers and griefers = AWESOME

    Yeah people that think owpvp is to gank lower levels are going to be disappointed... but who cares?

    And do not reply "noooo i only attack players equal to my level ! I want a fair fight "

    Then go to wvwvw and stop whining there is no owpvp

    (or go play a sandbox)

    Incorrect.

     

    WvWvW is instanced.  It is simply of a longer duration than the battlegrounds.  During the first few days I believe the "matches" will last for a day.. eventually for 2 weeks.  Then the "game" ends,  INSTANCE resets and new "teams" are paired up for the next match.  We won't even mention the population cap on the maps...

    I hope it turns out to be fun, but  it is NOT Open World PvP.

     

    It's not instanced... it's a separate persistent map!

    There are not 2 different instance of the WvWvW.

     

    Channels for example are instances. Battlegrounds are instances. Dungeons are usually instanced.

    WvWvW is not. Period.

     

    And yes WvWvW is open world pvp. You do exactly the same things you usually do in the PVE world. You can level and kill mobs just fine in there. There are plenty of events too.

    It's just separated from the rest of the PVE world. 

    And the gankers and griefers cannot deal with it. They need to hunt down lower levels otherwise they won't win. A fair fight scare them.

    In my book

     

    Owpvp -

    gank -

    griefing =

    --------------

    Win

     

     

     

     

  • ThaneThane berlinPosts: 2,232Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Incorrect.

     WvWvW is instanced.  It is simply of a longer duration than the battlegrounds.  During the first few days I believe the "matches" will last for a day.. eventually for 2 weeks.  Then the "game" ends,  INSTANCE resets and new "teams" are paired up for the next match.  We won't even mention the population cap on the maps...

    I hope it turns out to be fun, but  it is NOT Open World PvP.

    good thing it aint :)

     

     

     

    * open world pvp in WoW: "uh look, here is my lvl 80 toon killing your leveling noob toon! damn i'm pro!"

    * open world in aion: "find the rift! GET EM!" *1 year later* *rifts totaly have been nerfed because everyone was crying that it was so hard to have "open" pvp"

    * open pvp in conan: *BAMBAMBAM* "gotcha sucker, but now i will run, wont see ya again!"

    * open pvp in DAoC: "nothing to see, move along, we are instanced, but if you ask the player base, daoc was the best pvp game ever!"

    * open pvp in neocron: "ha! PP BLOACKADE BITCHES!" "y u no let me through!?"

    * open pvp in SW:TOR: "hello?! anyone here?!" *switches to pvp planet* (hint: instanced!) "uuuuh cool. lets base dive!!"

    * open pvp in WHO: *going round and round and round and round* "anyone seen an enemy lately?" "i think they are behin or infront of us, doing circle zerging too!" "wanna change direction?!" "naaa.. would have to fight then"

     

     

     

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,524Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by otacu
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by otacu

    WvWvW is not instanced.

    Battlegrounds are instanced.

     

     

    WvWvW is open world pvp without pve gankers and griefers = AWESOME

    Yeah people that think owpvp is to gank lower levels are going to be disappointed... but who cares?

    And do not reply "noooo i only attack players equal to my level ! I want a fair fight "

    Then go to wvwvw and stop whining there is no owpvp

    (or go play a sandbox)

    Incorrect.

     

    WvWvW is instanced.  It is simply of a longer duration than the battlegrounds.  During the first few days I believe the "matches" will last for a day.. eventually for 2 weeks.  Then the "game" ends,  INSTANCE resets and new "teams" are paired up for the next match.  We won't even mention the population cap on the maps...

    I hope it turns out to be fun, but  it is NOT Open World PvP.

     

    It's not instanced... it's a separate persistent map!

    There are not 2 different instance of the WvWvW.

     

    Channels for example are instances. Battlegrounds are instances. Dungeons are usually instanced.

    WvWvW is not. Period.

     

    And yes WvWvW is open world pvp. You do exactly the same things you usually do in the PVE world. You can level and kill mobs just fine in there. There are plenty of events too.

    It's just separated from the rest of the PVE world. 

    And the gankers and griefers cannot deal with it. They need to hunt down lower levels otherwise they won't win. A fair fight scare them.

    In my book

     

    Owpvp -

    gank -

    griefing =

    --------------

    Win

     

     

     

     

    Again incorrect.  It is not persistant.  It lasts for anywhere from an hour or two to a few weeks.

    It is simply a long duration battleground.   It "resets" at the end of each instance.

     

    It really doesn't matter what definition you have "in your book".  Openworld PvP has nothing to do with whether or not you can gank or grief.

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Again incorrect.  It is not persistant.  It lasts for anywhere from an hour or two to a few weeks.

    It is simply a long duration battleground.   It "resets" at the end of each instance.

     

    It really doesn't matter what definition you have "in your book".  Openworld PvP has nothing to do with whether or not you can gank or grief.

    It's as persistant as a server.

    Yes, they will reset the servers, but by that logic there are no persistant MMOs.

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