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so far the questing has been really lame
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Ha...that boat sailed off some time ago unfortunately. Gonna get a lot worse when the game launches too. Happy happy joy joy.
Anyways, as for the OP from what I have seen it starts out rather mundane but they appear to get a lot more interesting in the higher level zones.
...and really. You pretty much have this in every mmo. Kind of need to for those that aren't as well versed in mmos so they can get used to the mechanics and gameplay. Have to get their feet wet before you send them into the deep end. Not everyone that will be playing is going to be an mmo vet.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Of course the GW2 fans didn't say that every aspect of the game is different...
You kind of proved my point.
If I, for instance, are to accept that that not every aspect of this game is not different, why have all these GW2 fans running around spouting "this x is the same as X in that and this game".
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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1. Get rid of the "Other MMO" Syndrome.
2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g36woC3LJ8Y
3. See you in GW2.
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In Tyria, you don't do quests. Quests do you.
Oderint, dum metuant.
A very good point. I'm trying to get a friend interested in GW2 and she's never played an MMO, so what benefit would it be to ANet if they made heart quests at level 2 ridiculously hard (and again, DE's can be difficult if you search them out)? She would lose interest almost straight away.
Besides, the OP is concerned but I don't think he was trying to incite the wrath of the GW2 community, I too am concerned about the depth of quests later on, but I've seen enough to know that they do get harder and they do reward better even in the lvl 10 - 15 bracket. I think most people will ease into it just fine.
they are all heart quest in the norn area. so let me ask did you get the chest in the cave after you followed the wolfs around i bet you did not becuse you did not go looking or you did not stay around that area.
so just in the one sopt wheere you followed the wolfs if you did not look around or did not stick around you missed out of some things
cheast with items not good items but this is a start area
Stop dredge from repairing their tower this is a chained event that ends in a group boos fight.
Run with Wolf's pack and destroy the Svanir camp this is not the heart quest this is also a chained event that ends with a group boss fight.
and all that was just in the one sopt. int the norn start area what i call the lvl 1-7 zone thare are over 11 DE's. sos if you just ran from heart to heart you missed out on a lot.
I was talking in general terms because this is not the first time something like this happened. And how assuming that OP is playing it like WOW is any different then telling him to go back to wow? for all we know he never played WOW.
He did the tasks that were offered to him in the game. If content is there players will do it. Telling him that he didn't like heart events only because he is trying to play GW2 like WOW is wrong. Noteveryone who dislikes something about GW2 is an ex WOW player.
I think the OP and I have something in common here. I once decided not to buy some ice cream based off of my preconceived notion of its flavor due to the packaging. My story ended happily because I eventually later tried the ice cream and it is now one of my favorite flavors. True story brah.
One week I read a post about how games are all kill this, kill that, now I read a post about how the quests aren't all kill this or kill that. Sheesh... good thing there is a selection of games for all of us to enjoy!
Cheers!
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"Playing it like WoW" simply means expecting everything to be handed to you, with neat little icons and big arrows on the map for everything. So the people just do what is displayed on the map, without looking any further, without exploring abit.
You're not in Azeroth anymore... you're on Tyria. And on Tyria, exploration is a major part of the game. If you play it like WoW, you will miss the majority of the content.
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OP you were under the impression that those types of quests weren't in the game? Come on now your not looking at the best part of the PvE component its the events that spawn around you. If I recall correctly the quests that your referring to are all at the start of the game. I found the questing to be quite enjoyable and spontaneous. As with any game if your just pushing through the content it can get a bit old and boring at that point its probably best that you take a break.
Theres one of your problems then. You need to leave other threads baggage where it is. People were answering the OP's dilemma with responses that were accurate. He painted the heart tasks as something he hated and said things like "stupid ass quests" and "the most care bear quests he had ever see" while saying he couldn't kill anything. When you start off like that how can you sit there and honestly point your finger at the responses people make which weren't all that bad TBH I went back and rad them again. He may have done the tasks in offered int he game, but he came back and pointed out the worst he could find and people have assured him that it gets better so there was no need to compare the responses to the ones said about SWTOR.
Yes assuming the OP is playing it like WoW is completely different than saying go back because I assumed he was playing it and answered him without being rude. The heart tasks have choices unlike a quest. While he may not have played WoW, he has more than likely played other games which for the most part are close enough to compare so really. I agree with your last sentence.
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Its fun that posts like this which are very explanationary (video) dont get any responses at all.... So now all watch the video if you havent seen it yet and you can quit this discussion once and for all
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
So what's your idea of a good quest?
The starter area quests are based on the story behind the races so yes there will be some that you find boring but you are not tied to doing them unless your mom has a gun to your head, so just skip them and move on. Go to the mists and travel to the other starter zones and do the stuff there.
I can't speak for the OP, but for me a good quest would be one that doesn't require me to use my imagination to believe it's actually happening, can be done cooperatively instead of competitively with other people performing the same quest, allows me to have a real impact on the game, and happen spontaneously/dynamically with chaining (based on outcome) to other quests.
If there were quests like that I'd be on cloud 9.
But you do know those are all level 1 quests you used as examples, right? Have you done any of the events yet? Those are pretty fun.
You gotta admit you lol'd
You realize that what you just described are dynamic events in GW2...
Oh look it's another person that doesn't understand that renown quests are just there to get the people that need to be hand held into areas where DEs trigger.
My theme song.
Hmmmmm. Are the quests any better than Tera?
What it sounds like is that where Tera did not have the budget to add voice acting after the world saw reading quest text in 2011 was just dumb, GW2 had the budget to tack some voice on late in development. Is this why the story quest cut scenes are just two pictures talking?
Where's your source that they "tacked on" voice acting "late in development"? I never heard that one, I kind of want to see the proof.
By the way, they are not just two pictures talking, they are your character and the NPC graphics talking, which is the same thing SWTOR did only without the extreme camera angles. Still beats quest text.
You know I havn't played Guild Wars 2 "and really don't plan to honestly". But for a momment you had me genuinely interested there with a mature non-childish storyline in a MMO. Sad you had to tell me it was all bullshit at the end.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
Depends on if you like having dozens of 'go kill X' quests, and no voice overs.
And I don't know if you can call the voice acting in GW2 'tacked on', considering it's everywhere in the game, and the game has a massive amount of content. They've been adding voice to the game for over a year.
As for the personal story cutscenes, that was a stylistic choice. They talk about it when addressing some of the complaints about the personal story dialogue. While it may not be appealing as the cinematics in TSW, it's definitely not bad, and it's definitely better than a game full of 'kill X' quests.
The quests in GW2 have a lot of dialogue, a lot of backstory, and a lot of options. There are some that are more similar to traditional MMO quests, and there are others that have you doing things like chasing kids w/ an enlargement ray, playing against people in golem chess, rounding up escaped miniature experiments, fixing golems, regrowing farms, etc. etc. While, if you look at the questing mechanics under a microscope, some of the individual actions aren't necessarily new, the way in which they are delivered, and the variety of them is definitely something you won't find in other games.
Whether or not you like that variety and freedom is entirely a matter of preference, though.
- On a side note, the cutscenes in GW2 are probably the weakest feature they have. While most of them are actually fairly well done, some of them can be a bit corny.
^ LOL. Best thing I've read all day.. Makes a great point too
Those were the renown hearts and not even the "main part of the game". Do the "orange events", the dynamic events. The heart quests are not really meant to be interesting, but serve as more of a guide to show you where level appropriate content is.
The best part, is whiny hand holding loving playres, like yourself, are the ones that asked for them. My guess is if they didn't put them in, you would be posting about how there are no quests to do and the game sucks. Go figure.
Basically, you are playing the game incorrectly.