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FORCED SOE EU account transition - awefully quiet about it here

ReizlaReizla AlkmaarPosts: 3,299Member Uncommon

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=516733

Apperently, SOE teamed up with ProSiebenSat.1 Games to host their games now. So far I'm okay with that, but a FORCED account transfer is something I don't want to happen. Why..? ProSiebenSat.1 Games is one of the 2 worst EU gaming publishers around (yes, the other one is FROGSTER), and I don't wany them to hold my data and host MY games. Not to mention, looking at US->EU transitions in the past  (Lineage II and Aion come to mind), these transitions tend more to be a failure than a success, with the new EU servers left to die, or very low populated.

I do enjoy playing EverQuest II right now on the US server (went there on purpose) because it's an alive server. With the upcoming transition, I'm not sure what will happen to the server population, merges or whatever might happen. I might as well end up on a German server (not my native language, but it won't be the 1st time SOE takes Dutch players for knowing German...) or a server that ends up dead.

Think if SOE sticks to this FORCED transition, my best guess will be to cancel all recent cc payments I made and not play EQ2 anymore...

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  • heocatheocat Mount Rainier, WAPosts: 167Member Common

    All the way back at the first everquest when $OE took over everything went to shit they forced us to change things no notice or choice. I canceled my account after 4 years, shame really loved the game hated them. havn't given them another penny since.

    Really it is the only thing the corperations understand money. Don't give it to them then they listen if your lucky...

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  • AnthurAnthur StolbergPosts: 686Member Uncommon

    Pro7Sat1 is a german ... hmpf wished my english were better ... I would call it a fast food entertainment company. They don't provide anything which has quality or depth. I rarely watch their TV unless there is some sport event. The rest of it is really bad. That also shows for the games they host. Most of it are browser/flash p2w games.

    I find it a little strange they take over games like EQ/EQ2. Anyway, I am no longer playing those games anymore. They were fun in the past but are quite old now. So it doesn't concern me.

  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,639Member Uncommon

    OP, I get where you are coming from, I also choose US servers whenever I can and played EQ and EQ2 exclusively on them because of language barriers and community issues on EU ones. I would hate to get shifted with no choice or say to a crappy 3rd party regional provider, simply because SOE saw less grief/ more profit in it, if I still played.

    This kind of crap, as well as their long history of flat out lies, is why I stopped supporting SOE as a company a long time ago.

    It's the kind of decision that makes me look at PS2 and EQ3, two games I should be very excited about, with suspicion.

  • KanylKanyl a cold placePosts: 246Member Uncommon

    I have been playing on the US server, Freeport, since november last year. I met a lot of nice people, who I enjoy the game with. Nothing can compare to the community and enjoyment I am having right now in EQ2. If SoE demands to transfer me to EU servers, I will get so pissed off, that I spam them with 100 hate mails! That is unfair! Really!

     

    So, has the transition started? Also, if I made an account in november, will I still be forced to transfer? Because right now it seems like I am "ranked" as a US player, even tho if I am from Europe?

  • AvatarBladeAvatarBlade BucurestiPosts: 770Member Uncommon

    http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=515484

    Seems they went back on the forced thing? 

  • ReizlaReizla AlkmaarPosts: 3,299Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AvatarBlade

    http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=515484

    Seems they went back on the forced thing? 

    I heard that as well about an hour ago (one of the other EU players pointed it out). I'm happy I can keep playing EQ2 on AB. Only thing that still bothers me though is that some crappy publisher is keeping track of my data and I have to pay them for the $O€ services I take (gold subscription) and I have to be 'tunneled' to the US servers (more lag mosts likely...)

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  • DarwaDarwa CambridgePosts: 2,184Member Common

    Here's a copy of the email sent out this morning in case anyone wants a look. Personally, it reads to me as though EU players will have to move (but I have had a tiring day combined with man-flu) :/

     

     

    Dear Norrathians,
     
    An exciting time in SOE history has arrived and we are very pleased to be celebrating it with you, some of the most passionate MMOPRG players! As many of you know, SOE has partnered with ProSiebenSat.1 Games to provide and market eight of its games to players in Europe, including EverQuest® IIDC Universe™ OnlineFree Realms®Star Wars®: Clone Wars Adventures™Magic: The Gathering - Tactics, and PoxNora®, as well as the upcoming PlanetSide® 2 and the next game in the EverQuest® franchise.
     
    Specifically, the above mentioned SOE games will be made available through the ProSiebenSat.1 Games service in more than 40 European territories, including Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United Kingdom. Other countries may be added at a later date.
     
    Under this new partnership with SOE, ProSiebenSat.1 Games will lead the effort to further enhance the presence of these SOE games in the European market. Expect more players and more focused attention on international players!
     
    The EverQuest® II transition process to the ProSiebenSat.1 Games service will begin within the next 30 to 60 days. Once the transition takes place, you will need to have or create a ProSiebenSat.1 Games account in order to play EverQuest® II. We will be providing an easy way to transfer your existing SOE account and character data to your ProSiebenSat.1 Games account. Look for another email soon with specific instructions for completing the transfer.
     
    If at the time of the transition you have a pre-paid, non-recurring EverQuest® IIsubscription, your subscription will be automatically transferred over to ProSiebenSat.1 Games so you can continue enjoying any remaining play time left on the account. If at the time of transition you have a pre-paid, recurring SOE subscription, your subscription will be transferred over to ProSiebenSat.1 Games; however, the subscription will not renew at the end of the current billing cycle. Once the billing cycle ends, you will be able to re-subscribe through the ProSiebenSat.1 Games service to continue enjoying the benefits of a similar membership.
     
    European customers who maintain All Access accounts during the transition period will be transferred to ProSiebenSat.1 Games later on in the process. Further information on the transfer of All Access accounts will follow in the near future.
     
    Again, we are very grateful to have such a diverse and passionate community, and want to assure you that SOE will continue expanding the EverQuest® II world. This email is to notify you that the migration of EverQuest® II is close. Please be on the lookout for our next communication which will explain in detail how to transfer yourEverQuest® II account to the ProSiebenSat.1 Games service.
     
  • OBK1OBK1 BorPosts: 637Member

    MMORPG.com THIS is news, write something about it! Make some interviews, ask the bastards why we europeans should not be pissed as hell about this!

  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member

    So in a situation like this, what does the regional partner actually provide?  Are they simply hosting the servers?  Doing marketting?  Handling localization/local-language support?  Ensuring compliance with legal requirements?  Providing a liability shield for the publisher?

  • DalmontDalmont CardiffPosts: 272Member

    MMORPG.com doesn't care about europeans, thats why all their competitions are now usa/canada only.

    They gave up dealing with people who can form sentences and don't get emo every 30 seconds about nothing.

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  • FangrimFangrim PrestonPosts: 589Member

    Great game run by a terrible company.I don't play anyomre but have multiple level 90's on Splitpaw(EU)and Antonia Bayle (US) with 11 character slots maxed on both.So i bet i lose 11 toons lol.So happy I stopped playing.Still the most fun I ever had in an mmo though,no other comes close :(

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  • NasaNasa DenmarkPosts: 423Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by maplestone

    So in a situation like this, what does the regional partner actually provide?  Are they simply hosting the servers?  Doing marketting?  Handling localization/local-language support?  Ensuring compliance with legal requirements?  Providing a liability shield for the publisher?

    I think that is the main reason for this. SOE dont want to deal with localization.

    In the case of Aion, the Gameforge model was more resticted (only 2 characters total) and general worse business model with updates added much later than NA version. I think Aion EU dont even have version 3.0 yet.

    I think that even the players the localization is made for prefer English-only version if they get the best business model and the latest possible western update/content.

  • DarwaDarwa CambridgePosts: 2,184Member Common

    I just got this in a response from SOE:

     

     

    'SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games have determined that it is in the best interest of the players and the Community to allow players to continue to play on any server regardless of where they live. That means that European players will be able to play on U.S. servers and vice versa.

    Additionally ProSiebenSat.1 Games will offer its own version of an All Access subscription that will be available to all European customers once details have been finalized. As of March 29th Sony Online Entertainment will no longer offer the All Access subscription to European customers. In the meantime, All Access players who have running subscriptions can continue playing SOE games as usual. All current European All Access subscribers with accounts in good standing can continue to play games offered by SOE until the ProSiebenSat.1 Games version of the All Access subscription becomes available.'

     

    Guess that means I cancel my Access plan when it's due for renewal in August then. Bugger.

  • teakboisteakbois Parlin, NJPosts: 2,154Member
    Originally posted by heocat

    All the way back at the first everquest when $OE took over everything went to shit 

    First everquest was always SoE, just under a different name/structure.  Smedley was in charge of EQ and the guy that hired McQuaid.  

     

    And as for the OP's question, this is ancient news now, this was announced 3 or 4 months ago, if not more.

  • OBK1OBK1 BorPosts: 637Member
    Originally posted by teakbois
    Originally posted by heocat

    All the way back at the first everquest when $OE took over everything went to shit 

    First everquest was always SoE, just under a different name/structure.  Smedley was in charge of EQ and the guy that hired McQuaid.  

     

    And as for the OP's question, this is ancient news now, this was announced 3 or 4 months ago, if not more.

    Yes it was, but we got a letter today that we are being forced to move within the next 30-60 days. They tried to backtrack in february to make it sound like they listened to the complaints, been quite since then. Now we got this letter that tells us we are forced to move.

  • DarwaDarwa CambridgePosts: 2,184Member Common

    Currently talking about this in 1-9 on AB. Seems a lot of EU players haven't received the email yet.

  • MurlockDanceMurlockDance ParisPosts: 1,223Member
    Originally posted by darwa

    Currently talking about this in 1-9 on AB. Seems a lot of EU players haven't received the email yet.

    I haven't received anything yet...

    If you aren't currently subscribed, can an EU person still play on the US servers after the transition?

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  • DarwaDarwa CambridgePosts: 2,184Member Common
    Originally posted by MurlockDance

    I haven't received anything yet...

    If you aren't currently subscribed, can an EU person still play on the US servers after the transition?

    From what I understand (and there is a LOT of misdirection coming from SOE), only current subscribers (without station access) will be able to continue on US servers, but will still have to create an account with ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group. Obviously, no 500 station cash per month reward, and apparently the creation of new characters on US servers will not be possible.

  • ReizlaReizla AlkmaarPosts: 3,299Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by darwa
    Originally posted by MurlockDance

    I haven't received anything yet...

    If you aren't currently subscribed, can an EU person still play on the US servers after the transition?

    From what I understand (and there is a LOT of misdirection coming from SOE), only current subscribers (without station access) will be able to continue on US servers, but will still have to create an account with ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group. Obviously, no 500 station cash per month reward, and apparently the creation of new characters on US servers will not be possible.

    I think that PSS1 will take care of the 500SC then. I've read somewhere that we'd still get them (if subscribed). An other (good) thing is that we'll also get LoN boosters when subscribed, but yet again an unclear thing on how & what with them. After all, if you're playing EQ as well as EQ2, you need the lootcards on both SOE and PSS1 accounts...

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  • KnyttaKnytta Corning, NYPosts: 348Member Uncommon

    Well everyone will be able to play on any server in the future, if you are in EU (seems like they will track both IP adress and billing info) you will be a PSS1 customer. PSS1will use their own stationcash but your current balance will transfer, you will also be able to buy PSS1 gamecards in EU (finding sonys cards has been hard). Some people are saying that PSS1 already have started TV ads in Germany (I do not know if this is true or not but PSS1 is a major media company) . We will see what will happen, it could be good, PSS1 Can not be worse businessmen than Sony, it is simply not possible.

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  • ReizlaReizla AlkmaarPosts: 3,299Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Knytta

    Well everyone will be able to play on any server in the future, if you are in EU (seems like they will track both IP adress and billing info) you will be a PSS1 customer. PSS1will use their own stationcash but your current balance will transfer, you will also be able to buy PSS1 gamecards in EU (finding sonys cards has been hard). Some people are saying that PSS1 already have started TV ads in Germany (I do not know if this is true or not but PSS1 is a major media company) . We will see what will happen, it could be good, PSS1 Can not be worse businessmen than Sony, it is simply not possible.

    Looks like $O€ and P$$1 both need to sort some things out... I'm from EU and will get P$$1 SC, but I'll kepe playing on the US AB server, where I need $O€ SC. And now something makes me think that I won't be able to use the US AB cash shop if I only have P$$1 SC points *or I am missing something*

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