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Diablo 3: Our Official Diablo III Review

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  • berlightberlight almadaPosts: 156Member

    Wow! i was checking posts and i have noticed that my post was removed.

    Im going to say it again then.

    This score is offensive, for a site that is entitled as mmorpg giving a score to a game that is not a mmorpg is an offense to your community, beside that, the reviewer should give a score after playing the game until the max level, at lv30 everyone is enjoying the game.

    If you delete this post again youll be giving me the point. Your call.

    credits earned...move along...

    IF there is any doubts that we were all riped off just see this gameplay 4 years ago and tell me how that looks so good 4 yrs ago and how could Activision ruined a game like that just for profit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtotXRiYimg&feature=related

    We were all riped off. just check the video and listen THE MAIN DEV JAY WILSON talking about the game BEFORE ACTIVISION BOUGHT BLIZZARD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtotXRiYimg&feature=related

    Beta tester maniac

  • MueslinatorMueslinator AugsburgPosts: 78Member

    Overall, I think the review was fairly good but for two items:

    "Longevity: 9.5/10"

    No, I really don't think so. It has been discussed to Hell and back on the official forums but Diablo III is not like its predecessors in that regard. Itemisation is boring, and getting loot does not satisfy the old cravings. There's even a (halfway) scientific approach circulating as to why the loot in D3 isn't working.

    Since the reviewer only played through normal, he just assumes that things continue as he's accustomed to in other difficulties. They don't. D3's loot is not half as captivating as in the other games. Items are mere stat holders now instead of meaningful things you want to collect. And item acquisition is governed no longer by finding treasure yourself and trading a bit. It's about grinding money which you can then take to the AH to buy your gear. In short: Most people I know have quit playing once they realized that.

    Plus, D3 does not feature any meaningful randomization of maps. I can see how this isn't really noticable if you play through the game only once, but it really is something that inhibits replayability. Overworld maps always have the same shape and monsters, only the placement of doodads (trees, boulders) differs. Dungeons are stitched together from huge prefabricated (and easily recognizable) building blocks. After playing through normal, you have seen it all. Everything. There is no longer any sense of exploration apart from "I wonder which event is up this time".

    Third point: You cannot opt to skip the story. And that seriously hampers any replayability. Either you let that inane drivel wash over you time and again, or you hit your ESC button until it melts.

     

    "Value: 10/10"

    I nearly choked when I read that. I've shelled out 60€ for Diablo III. In over 15 years of gaming, I had never requested a refund for a game. With D3, i wanted my money back. I felt so cheated, I can hardly put it into words. I always liked the Diablo games for their immense replayability. That was what made them worth the money. Heck, I got so much enjoyment out of the first two instalments that I decided to purchase a second copy of each because I felt that otherwise I wouldn't compensating Blizzard sufficiently.

    Not so with D3. The first playthrough was "meh", and I was seriously annoyed by the story. Also, it has (see above) no replay value for me.

    And I'm not the only one. A lot of people are going for refunds. Just read through the offical and other fora. Anecdotal: A store in Copenhagen (I think) has even stopped selling Diablo III because they get so many refund requests.

    Conclusion: Please note more clearly that your score of 8.5 comes from playing once through the game and that you really did not do the research on how much "Value" and "Longevity" this game has.

    Giving the game a 7.8 would be generous.

     

    P.S.: No word on the unskippable story? If you factored that in, we'd probably be down to a 7.0, if not less.

  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon

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    And lol at 9/10 social value, because grinding, buying gear for real money and repeating the same shortlived maps over and over again mostly alone or with at best a handful of people must be kind of an amazing social experience.

    9/10 longlivety when people get bored after half a day of playing already, because there simply isnt anything of value left to the game and all they want is to push you into a situation to buy gear to progress further to the same "content" you've already gone trough, without wasting your lifetime on grinding the same few spots a hundred times for bigger numbers.

    Of course the value is overrated after all the overrated previous ratings.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • MueslinatorMueslinator AugsburgPosts: 78Member
    Originally posted by jpnz

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.

    "Value" for me is comprised of a lot of things.

    Can I mod D3? No.

    Can I play it offline? No.

    Does re-starting to try out different builds of a class make sense? No.

    Can I skip things I don't like (story)in new playthroughs? No.

    Can I freely roam the lands of Sanctuary? No.

    Is there any reason to replay the game (which is very much what it's designed around, if you hear the devs tell it): No.

    For me, the game was a mediocre one-time romp through the game. I didn't feel challenged at any point. The story was cringeworthy (b-movie dialogues all over the place, highly visible (and dumb) villains, un-twists, almost no characters [they're more like plot devices], and bad pacing to name just a few), and to top it off: I couldn't play the first three days because of servers acting up. When I asked for a refund on day four, they declined it since their DE only has a 72 hour deadline. Ba-dumm-tsh!

     

    And let me tell you, I bought SW:TOR as CE, played through one class story, and felt I got my money's worth. Because the story was actually decent and kept me guessing. It had likable characters, the game was fun and challenging. So it's not me being niggardly.

    edit: And Torchlight is 1/3rd the price, and offers both Offline play and LAN. And moddability. And more character customization.
     
  • troublmakertroublmaker St. George''s, NFPosts: 337Member

    Originally posted by jpnz

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.


     

    The original price for the Diablo 2 battle chest which included both Diablos and the expansion for Diablo 2 was $40.  The design costs between Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 have not increased, as a matter of fact they decreased.  The game was totally scrapped in 2009 and restarted from scrach.  So in reality the game actually took three years to make.  So is Blizzard trying to pass the costs of the other two versions of Diablo 3 on us?

    The reason why Max Payne is a $60 game is because the design costs for such a game are huge.  You have to pay for the hundreds of cut scene videos,  the licensing of physics engnie, and the careful modern design.

    Diablo 3 is a very cheaply made game given an insanelty high cost simply to rip off consumers.  Let's try this "$60 game metaphor again" shall we.  Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim is a $60 game.  World of Warcraft is a $60 game.  Starcraft 2 is a $60 game.  Why does Diablo 3 think it can get away being so expensive?

    Torchlight 2 is a very simlar game and it costs $20.  It has similar play value, it has play length, and it is one of the only games of the genre.  Yet Diablo 3 in all it's glory thinks itself to be a $60 game.

    To make this clear a $60 game is not about how long you can play it..  If you want to get technical Diablo 3 can be beaten in 7 hours making it less of a play value than Max Payne 3.  Simply having difficuly modes and achievements does not give the game great play value.  I have over 2600 hours in Anno 2070.  It has one 30 hour campaign, it has a sandboxing mode, it has DLC, and it has monthly world events you can participate in.  That game is a $60 value and it sells for $50.

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  • jonchicoinejonchicoine orlando, FLPosts: 77Member
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Originally posted by jpnz

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.


     

    The original price for the Diablo 2 battle chest which included both Diablos and the expansion for Diablo 2 was $40.  The design costs between Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 have not increased, as a matter of fact they decreased.  The game was totally scrapped in 2009 and restarted from scrach.  So in reality the game actually took three years to make.  So is Blizzard trying to pass the costs of the other two versions of Diablo 3 on us?

    The reason why Max Payne is a $60 game is because the design costs for such a game are huge.  You have to pay for the hundreds of cut scene videos,  the licensing of physics engnie, and the careful modern design.

    Diablo 3 is a very cheaply made game given an insanelty high cost simply to rip off consumers.  Let's try this "$60 game metaphor again" shall we.  Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim is a $60 game.  World of Warcraft is a $60 game.  Starcraft 2 is a $60 game.  Why does Diablo 3 think it can get away being so expensive?

    Torchlight 2 is a very simlar game and it costs $20.  It has similar play value, it has play length, and it is one of the only games of the genre.  Yet Diablo 3 in all it's glory thinks itself to be a $60 game.

    To make this clear a $60 game is not about how long you can play it..  If you want to get technical Diablo 3 can be beaten in 7 hours making it less of a play value than Max Payne 3.  Simply having difficuly modes and achievements does not give the game great play value.  I have over 2600 hours in Anno 2070.  It has one 30 hour campaign, it has a sandboxing mode, it has DLC, and it has monthly world events you can participate in.  That game is a $60 value and it sells for $50.

    it's simple...

     

    Imagine you owned the company... then remember the goal of your business is probably to make money... if people will pay it... how can you justify to your stockholders that even though people would pay $60 you thought it would be better to charge $20 ...

    having said that... diable3 doesn't have the replay value (for many reasons, like low lvl cap) so i bet people won't be paying $60 to  buy (lease really, cause you don't own if if you have to log in to their servers, eh)  diablo 4 ...

    blah

  • asmadeousasmadeous Addison, ILPosts: 70Member

    This game was pretty terrible... returned it after a week. Only played it to progress in the story, that was it.

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  • ValentinaValentina Los Angeles, CAPosts: 1,675Member Uncommon

    Uhh...I would definitely rate this game a 7.0-7.5 MAX....I have a feeling it got such good ratings due to it being Diablo, and from Blizzard. It doesn't have the longevity and that value rating is hilariously biased. The visuals also weren't that great, they were nice but they weren't an 8.5 tbh.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Elmer, NJPosts: 1,857Member
    Originally posted by jpnz

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.

    So, because Max Payne is so short as to be a complete ripoff, it's OK for D3 to be that short as well?  Makes sense, if all you want out of your games is the lowest common denominator.  Myself, I am put off by such things, but the real head scratcher for me... my burning question... is this:

    Why does Starcraft 2 have more RPG elements than Diablo 3?

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  • KingPinoyKingPinoy Concord, CAPosts: 55Member

    I feel like this article is so wrong.... by that i mean points. Not very strong for the rating you give them.

  • t0nydt0nyd Evansville, INPosts: 198Member Uncommon

    I just dont see how you can call a 60$ game a 10/10 in value. I mean, wtf is a 20$ game like torchlight going to score in the value deparment, 9000/10

    I also dont see how you can call the combat visceral then turn around and say that the game is far to easy. Visceral combat only exists if combat is challenging.


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  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    Originally posted by Souldrainer
    Originally posted by jpnz

    I am seriously wondering why people say D3's 'value' is low for a $60 game.

    Last I checked, Max Payne3 is only 12 hours long and that was a $60 as well.

    I bought both and have no issue with both. Both gave me entertainment and I am going to get 100s hours of enjoyment out of D3.

    Story wasn't great but then again, Diablo1/2 didn't exactly have stellar story either.

    So, because Max Payne is so short as to be a complete ripoff, it's OK for D3 to be that short as well?  Makes sense, if all you want out of your games is the lowest common denominator.  Myself, I am put off by such things, but the real head scratcher for me... my burning question... is this:

    Why does Starcraft 2 have more RPG elements than Diablo 3?

    So what is actually 'short'?

    Do we have an artbituary number to hit that 'medium and not short' gameplay time?

    Skyrim has 100s hours of gameplay.

    Minecraft has zero to infinite hours of gameplay (your personal preference to whether minecraft has gameplay at all).

    Then we have Max Payne3, Trine, Nyxquest etc that don't have 100s of hours.

     

    I didn't consider Max payne to be a 'ripoff' because for me the 'value' was good enough.

    I buy $10 coffee every morning at work. The value is good enough. It might not be for everyone and that's totally fine.

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • haplo602haplo602 Posts: 212Member Uncommon



    Originally posted by Veldara










    I'm finding a lot of gamers that are very vocal and dislike this game usually are the ones that played the originals.  I can respect that they don't like the new direction of the game, but as a person that never has played the originals and who found TL1 while entertaining but clunky I really enjoy D3 far more.  It's bringing in players that never played these types of games, myself included.  The streamlined direction of the game flows well and is action packed and doesn't slow you down with far too much numbercrunching.















     










     

    Do yourself a favor and get a copy of D2. The original Torchlight does scratch D1 level in gameplay but D2 is faaaar away in the distance ahead.

     

    If this game was the 2nd Diablo, it would be great. However D2 was the best in the series so faar.



     

  • thekid1thekid1 GroningenPosts: 789Member

    Not a single word about the story? I think this review is missing a part.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    [mod edit]

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • serapholseraphol bellevue, TNPosts: 33Member

    I don't quite disagree with the review, so I'll just add that, as the games exist currently, I believe Tian Quest is superior.

  • troublmakertroublmaker St. George''s, NFPosts: 337Member

    it's simple...

     

    Imagine you owned the company... then remember the goal of your business is probably to make money... if people will pay it... how can you justify to your stockholders that even though people would pay $60 you thought it would be better to charge $20 ...

    having said that... diable3 doesn't have the replay value (for many reasons, like low lvl cap) so i bet people won't be paying $60 to  buy (lease really, cause you don't own if if you have to log in to their servers, eh)  diablo 4 ...

    blah


     

    I hate when  people pretend like they know a tonne about business.

    Okay let's go on this "imagien you own a company."  In fact I actually own a company, I own three.  So now let's continue this as I own a company and now you pretend you are a consumer.

    You go to your local paving business and want your drive way paved.  You pay in full and the pavers show up.  After paving your drive way you note that it is not level, it is a 4 inche lift off of the road and there is a foot print in it.  What do you do as a consumer.  Well you complain your ass off for this broken driveway.  When the paving business does not fix your driveway you tell everyone that these guys suck.

    See when a company tries to exploit their consumers their reputation is hurt.  This means that they'll have less sales of future games and less sales on current ones.  The reason why Diablo 3 can put out millions of sales on their first day is because Blizzard Entertainment has a great reputation.  People just assume these guys shit gold.

    Bethesda Studios had a great reputation with Morrowind and then Oblivion.  Then they created DLC (HORSE ARMOR ZOMG) and their reputation was ruined.  They had to rebuild it with massive investment in cheap time efficient DLC packs for Oblivion and of course Skyrim.

    If Blizzard continues to disappoint their fans their sales with plummet.

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  • darklordacedarklordace Gnurg, MDPosts: 14Member Common

    Dont you know this is mmorpg. They write reviews on games not even in alpha testing.  This is what this site is for. Misinformation and uninformed writing.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Baltimore, MDPosts: 2,936Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by t0nyd

    I just dont see how you can call a 60$ game a 10/10 in value. I mean, wtf is a 20$ game like torchlight going to score in the value deparment, 9000/10

    I also dont see how you can call the combat visceral then turn around and say that the game is far to easy. Visceral combat only exists if combat is challenging.

    Maybe they meant the value the hackers will get when they compromise your acct, because of a Blizz weakness in the server or client code, and sell all your stuff in the upcoming RMAH. :P

     

    In typical MMORPG.com fashion, this review over-emphasizes the postives, and there are postive points to this game, but glosses over the neagtive aspects. Or does not even mention them.

    This game rates no better than 7-7.5, based on large deductions for server stability for B.net (which is required even for single player games - dumb), security weaknesses in the client, server code, or both, and the plain lack of available choices in making different toon builds (since when has "choice" become a bad thing?).

    We waited 11 years for this?

     

     

  • darklordacedarklordace Gnurg, MDPosts: 14Member Common

    Im just gonna say it. Did they pay you too write this? The game is complete and utter trash. Played it once and i do love ALL games returned it after playing it through twice. Its a pointless cash cow for actiblizzard. We dont want games that will "Get better"  give us the game you said you were making not this abortion you titled diablo 3. I have been a gamer since better times so im not just blowing smoke. But honestly the first day playing it that i was able too i was literally turned off. Sitting there playing saying "Really? j..just REALLY?"  I for one was really excited to see what this would offer which is nothing but a grind machine that blizz makes 15% off the top off every mini market bullshit.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    Originally posted by darklordace

    Im just gonna say it. Did they pay you too write this? The game is complete and utter trash. Played it once and i do love ALL games returned it after playing it through twice. Its a pointless cash cow for actiblizzard. We dont want games that will "Get better"  give us the game you said you were making not this abortion you titled diablo 3. I have been a gamer since better times so im not just blowing smoke. But honestly the first day playing it that i was able too i was literally turned off. Sitting there playing saying "Really? j..just REALLY?"  I for one was really excited to see what this would offer which is nothing but a grind machine that blizz makes 15% off the top off every mini market bullshit.

    So let me get this straight, you hated it so much that you finished it twice?

    Isn't that like 20hours (minimum) of gameplay time?

    Just puzzled that's all.

    If I don't like a game, I generally don't play it but maybe that's just me?

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • RabenwolfRabenwolf Los Angeles, CAPosts: 1,445Member
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by darklordace

    Im just gonna say it. Did they pay you too write this? The game is complete and utter trash. Played it once and i do love ALL games returned it after playing it through twice. Its a pointless cash cow for actiblizzard. We dont want games that will "Get better"  give us the game you said you were making not this abortion you titled diablo 3. I have been a gamer since better times so im not just blowing smoke. But honestly the first day playing it that i was able too i was literally turned off. Sitting there playing saying "Really? j..just REALLY?"  I for one was really excited to see what this would offer which is nothing but a grind machine that blizz makes 15% off the top off every mini market bullshit.

    So let me get this straight, you hated it so much that you finished it twice?

    Isn't that like 20hours (minimum) of gameplay time?

    Just puzzled that's all.

    If I don't like a game, I generally don't play it but maybe that's just me?

    Some force themselves to play it hoping it will get better, NOT worse. They are searching for a redeaming value, when there is none the anger is only doubled by the fact they wasted time looking for it,

  • gilgamesh42gilgamesh42 tampa, FLPosts: 300Member

     

    :/ what did it for me was how badly done the class balance is its silly to say the least i have 106hours on my monks and 36 on my witch doctor and i cant even look at my monk with out geting sick its just so disgusting how bad the balance is makes me feel like vomiting just thinking about it

     

    god dam it i really liked the game but DAT balance was to much

     

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  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    Originally posted by gilgamesh42

     

    :/ what did it for me was how badly done the class balance is its silly to say the least i have 106hours on my monks and 36 on my witch doctor and i cant even look at my monk with out geting sick its just so disgusting how bad the balance is makes me feel like vomiting just thinking about it

     

    god dam it i really liked the game but DAT balance was to much

     

    So it is the same as D2 then? :P

    D2 hydra /static sorc was broken in D2 as well.

     

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