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  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by dead2soon

    I think once the RMAH goes live cash will be the intermediary currency. Sure the best items will only be on the RMAH but you will also sell your best items there too. It all sounds a little scary to me.

    That is what Blizzard is banking on. No pun intended. They will be laughing all the way to the bank with this.

  • KuinnKuinn MestaPosts: 2,093Member

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

  • gessekai332gessekai332 New York City, NYPosts: 877Member Common

    biggest issue i have with AH is that gear you farm until act 3 inferno sells for crap in the AH. its pretty bad, gear you find in act 1 inferno is like worth less than 200k while act 2 and above suddenly its worth millions. theres gotta be some way for lower level players to find items that can sometimes be worth something to higher level players (like rare commodity items or whatever).

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  • BizkitNLBizkitNL NetherlandsPosts: 2,280Member Common

    The only thing I fear is that everyone will be selling for money, rather than ingame gold, thus making items scarce in that department.

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did? Play the game.  

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

     Why would I need to have been in inferno to know what it is? You can watch people do it live 24/7. You just don't have a leg to stand on so you're resorting to ad hominems.  Toughen up mate you can do it.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

     Why would I need to have been in inferno to know what it is? You can watch people do it live 24/7. You just don't have a leg to stand on so you're resorting to ad hominems.  Toughen up mate you can do it.

    So watching people that have bought gear from the AH / used bugged abilties to get through it is the same as playing through it on your own without the AH? Yea, makes complete sense.

  • gainesvilleggainesvilleg Gainesville, FLPosts: 1,053Member

    I haven't used the auction house to buy or sell anything yet.  Just started Inferno difficulty now so we'll see if I can keep that streak up.  The other infamous streak I am on is, unfortunately, I have not yet found a SINGLE legendary item through all of Normal, Nightmare, and Hell.  But I guess the 4th try (Inferno) will be the charm!  They should have an achievement for completing the game without ever finding a legendary item...

    GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
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    2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

     Why would I need to have been in inferno to know what it is? You can watch people do it live 24/7. You just don't have a leg to stand on so you're resorting to ad hominems.  Toughen up mate you can do it.

    So watching people that have bought gear from the AH / used bugged abilties to get through it is the same as playing through it on your own without the AH? Yea, makes complete sense.

     Not at all. If you watch them they'll show you what they're using. Still doesn't change the fact you think the game is just too hard for you to finish. Maybe it is. That doesn't mean they should, or will change it. Maybe I can't do it either. That doesn't mean I won't try. The faint heart never won the fair lady.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

     Why would I need to have been in inferno to know what it is? You can watch people do it live 24/7. You just don't have a leg to stand on so you're resorting to ad hominems.  Toughen up mate you can do it.

    So watching people that have bought gear from the AH / used bugged abilties to get through it is the same as playing through it on your own without the AH? Yea, makes complete sense.

     Not at all. If you watch them they'll show you what they're using. Still doesn't change the fact you think the game is just too hard for you to finish. Maybe it is. That doesn't mean they should, or will change it. Maybe I can't do it either. That doesn't mean I won't try. The faint heart never won the fair lady.

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

  • davinci179davinci179 Baltimore, MDPosts: 13Member

    While I agree that AH can cheapen the game experience for alot of us out there who prefer the excitment and experience of being reward for killing a boss or hacking and slashing their way through a dungeon I do feel that the AH is fine in the game because it is totally up to us to whether or not we use it or not. That is what I do not understand with the constent complaints over the AH and RMAH its all up to us to use it or not. People think because it is in there they are required to use it. I am sure its tempting to scourer the AH and if you see some nice stuff to get it for your character, but its totally up to us to purchase it or not.

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon

    Im still not far enough into the game to tell wether it will be good or not. Im sure folks with more experience have made their minds about it. A gut feeling says it won't be that great for the game though.....

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  • NethermancerNethermancer Toronto, ONPosts: 520Member

    Whats bad for the game is all my friends getting hacked and rage quitting.

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by Kuinn

    I think it's fine, I'd rather have the AH than be without it since I only care about hell and inferno difficulties. I like to trade in AH, I buy and I sell, it's part of the gameplay for me, and I'm very used to it since I play (used to play at least) a lot of mmorpgs.

     

    A big reason why I like this system is that I get to build my gear now, instead of getting lucky. I build very specific gear sets for my chars and I really love the AH feature where I can set search parameters for what the gear should have. I hate some of the visual effects on certain damage types and love others, with AH I can use the ones I like and skip the ones I dont. Certain builds also needs certain stuff, others need +crit and others need something else, it would be impossible to support these builds with the right gear if there was no AH.

     

    Though, if it would be very important for me to get awesome drops rather than playing the AH then the game would suck, the drops are so random that I barely even take a good look at them, so if you are a player looking for actually get stuff your self on the battlefield, you might want to skip this game since it happens very rarely.

    What happens when the RMAH releases though? Are you going to pour your money into this game to be able to progress through inferno? Is it worth it?

     Why would I need to? Hundreds of people are playing inferno and there is no RMAH yet. Why wouldn't I do what they did?Play the game.  

    They bought their good items on the gold AH. You know how many good items are going to be on the Gold AH when RMAH comes around? You guessed it, 0. 

     No they didn't. Until you reach inferno you don't get that gear. The first people in inferno  ground it out because there wasn't any gear that level on the gold auction house. Many people still don't buy things on the AH. IT's inferno. Man up you don't have to buy victory.

    The items that drop in Inferno are rarely useful. Blizzard themselves have stated they've lowered drop rates / stat rolls to encourage people using the AH.  So yea, the first people in Inferno used Bugged combos (4 monks, Wiz, etc) to get through it. Now that those combos are nerfed, the AH is the only way left.     How you doin in Inferno btw? How much of your gear is from the AH? Thought so.

     So you're complaining it's just too hard for you. Guess what most people never finished Diablo 1 or 2 in nightmare mode. I don't use the AH. I'll be ready for inferno when I get to it. I don't play games 16 hours a day. Either that or I won't complain because I'm just not good enough to do what others have done before me. Suck it up and soldier on.

    Haha so you aren't even at Inferno yet? No wonder you have no idea what you are talking about. Go from Act 1 Inferno to act 2, and then you can join the big boy conversation.

     Why would I need to have been in inferno to know what it is? You can watch people do it live 24/7. You just don't have a leg to stand on so you're resorting to ad hominems.  Toughen up mate you can do it.

    So watching people that have bought gear from the AH / used bugged abilties to get through it is the same as playing through it on your own without the AH? Yea, makes complete sense.

     Not at all. If you watch them they'll show you what they're using. Still doesn't change the fact you think the game is just too hard for you to finish. Maybe it is. That doesn't mean they should, or will change it. Maybe I can't do it either. That doesn't mean I won't try. The faint heart never won the fair lady.

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    D2 was "tuned" for complainers and my dog could beat it by licking the keyboard (slight exaggeration). Is that what you want?

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • Paradigm68Paradigm68 New York, NYPosts: 884Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean

     

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    The point of the discussion is not that the AH makes the game unplayable, but the fact that drops are tuned towards getting people to use the AH, but that the AH makes the game less fun to play. When all my drops are either 10 levels below me or have completely useless stats, essentially making drops useful only for selling to make gold to use the AH, the game is less fun to play than if I could have some reasonable expectation that drops within the game might be valuable to me.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Paradigm68
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean

     

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    The point of the discussion is not that the AH makes the game unplayable, but the fact that drops are tuned towards getting people to use the AH, but that the AH makes the game less fun to play. When all my drops are either 10 levels below me or have completely useless stats, essentially making drops useful only for selling to make gold to use the AH, the game is less fun to play than if I could have some reasonable expectation that drops within the game might be valuable to me.

     All of the drops aren't  Most of the drops in diablo will always be trash. It's a game of farming. If you don't like farming it's not going to be enjoyable. You don't need the best gear to beat the game. If they change the drop rates or dumb down the game it's going to make it less fun for the rest of us. The truth is they're not much different than they were in diablo 2. I respect your well stated opinion I just completely disagree with it. If there were no auction house  the game should be no different than it is.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Paradigm68
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean

     

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    The point of the discussion is not that the AH makes the game unplayable, but the fact that drops are tuned towards getting people to use the AH, but that the AH makes the game less fun to play. When all my drops are either 10 levels below me or have completely useless stats, essentially making drops useful only for selling to make gold to use the AH, the game is less fun to play than if I could have some reasonable expectation that drops within the game might be valuable to me.

     All of the drops aren't  Most of the drops in diablo will always be trash. It's a game of farming. If you don't like farming it's not going to be enjoyable. You don't need the best gear to beat the game. If they change the drop rates or dumb down the game it's going to make it less fun for the rest of us. The truth is they're not much different than they were in diablo 2. I respect your well stated opinion I just completely disagree with it. If there were no auction house  the game should be no different than it is.

    Except it's not our opinion you are arguin with, its facts stated by the game developers / producers.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Paradigm68
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean

     

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    The point of the discussion is not that the AH makes the game unplayable, but the fact that drops are tuned towards getting people to use the AH, but that the AH makes the game less fun to play. When all my drops are either 10 levels below me or have completely useless stats, essentially making drops useful only for selling to make gold to use the AH, the game is less fun to play than if I could have some reasonable expectation that drops within the game might be valuable to me.

     All of the drops aren't  Most of the drops in diablo will always be trash. It's a game of farming. If you don't like farming it's not going to be enjoyable. You don't need the best gear to beat the game. If they change the drop rates or dumb down the game it's going to make it less fun for the rest of us. The truth is they're not much different than they were in diablo 2. I respect your well stated opinion I just completely disagree with it. If there were no auction house  the game should be no different than it is.

    Except it's not our opinion you are arguin with, its facts stated by the game developers / producers.

     Pretty sure the developers never said you can't play the game without using the auction house. Quite the opposite in fact. Auction houses have always existed for Diablo. They just weren't very safe places to go. People have always traded gear in Diablo it just wasn't this easy. You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and there just isn't that much material. You think they should increase drops. I don't. The rest is just words in the wind. You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find you get what you need. No auction house required.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Ypsilanti, MIPosts: 1,270Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Paradigm68
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Jimmydean

     

    The game itself was TUNED around buying/selling on the Auction House. Blizzard's words, not mine.

     What's your point? That because it's "tuned" you can't play without it? Horsefeathers.

    The point of the discussion is not that the AH makes the game unplayable, but the fact that drops are tuned towards getting people to use the AH, but that the AH makes the game less fun to play. When all my drops are either 10 levels below me or have completely useless stats, essentially making drops useful only for selling to make gold to use the AH, the game is less fun to play than if I could have some reasonable expectation that drops within the game might be valuable to me.

     All of the drops aren't  Most of the drops in diablo will always be trash. It's a game of farming. If you don't like farming it's not going to be enjoyable. You don't need the best gear to beat the game. If they change the drop rates or dumb down the game it's going to make it less fun for the rest of us. The truth is they're not much different than they were in diablo 2. I respect your well stated opinion I just completely disagree with it. If there were no auction house  the game should be no different than it is.

    Except it's not our opinion you are arguin with, its facts stated by the game developers / producers.

     Pretty sure the developers never said you can't play the game without using the auction house. Quite the opposite in fact. Auction houses have always existed for Diablo. They just weren't very safe places to go. People have always traded gear in Diablo it just wasn't this easy. You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and there just isn't that much material. You think they should increase drops. I don't. The rest is just words in the wind. You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find you get what you need. No auction house required.

    Except I've never said you can't play the game like this. This thread is about the AH being good or bad for Diablo.   In my opinion, it's bad, and I've stated the reason why. The items from Inferno Act 1 will not help you get to Inferno Act 2 99% of the time. If you want to farm that 1 percent by doing act 1 inferno 10,000 times, then have at it. You are truly the better man because you like to repeat shallow content thousands of times.

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