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TERA: Our Official TERA Review

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  • troublmakertroublmaker St. George''s, NFPosts: 337Member
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    The unfortunate side of 'reviewers' is they will more often than not recommend games they give low scores to and not recommend games they give high scores to.  This is all because they're doing their reviews with a format.  If a great game is weak somewhere in the format that will tank the rating.

    What tanked TERA's rating might be "innovation" in this review.  Innovation isn't really a requirement for a great game.  WoW, the most successful MMORPG is notably the least innovative game as they tend to just rip off good ideas from everyone else.

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,365MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    I see me as Bill Murphy though, not Mike Bitton. The only reason you're spouting about integrity in our ratings is because you think it should be a higher score. If I rated it higher, you'd not be complaining... correct?

    The score stands. I love the game. Finito.
  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r NowherePosts: 349Member Uncommon

    Calm down he likes the game. It is just that for higher score we need something more than to like the game.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member

    Seems to be a very fair review. And people, ... 7.7 is NOT bad!

    I hope mmorpg.com will keep up this realistic scoring habbit. All gaming sites that ride the waves of player anticipation and accomodate fans in reafirming their hype with very high scores lost much of their credibility in my eyes.

    In that sense some of mmorpg.com's scores of the past might have been a tad on the high side compared to what Tera gets now but this a good precedent.

    We should stop expecting scores only in the 8.5 - 10 bracket.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member

    TERA does very well at being an extremely mediocre game.

    7.7 is perfect.

     

  • eritheerithe Olympia Fields, ILPosts: 8Member

    "We could bemoan the fact that there’s a bit of sexism here in TERA (male and female alike), but the truth is that there’s nary a game in the MMO industry that looks and performs incredibly well on the Unreal 3 engine."

     

    Seriously?  You slide from the sexism question directly to the Unreal engine's performance?  There is no connection there and you're glossing over the main, most disquieting element of TERA.  For all it's glossy game play, even if it's fun ... no discussion at ALL of the string bikini armor, separately animated boobs, and ridiculous character models?   Good grief.

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member

    Waitaminute! I just did the average myself and it comes out to 7.6 (rounded) NOT 7.7.

    Aha!!!!!! Bill you should be ashamed of yourself for deceiving the masses!

     

     

     

     

    Ashamed!

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • Dren_UtogiDren_Utogi OuterSpacePosts: 1,713Member Uncommon

    Finito, doesn't quite end the conversation for the lack of depth in the review. So much missing in most mmo reviews and readers never get any information in a review about the end game. Doing a mid level raid is nothing like end game raids, mid level pvp is nothing like end level pvp, ect and so on.

     

    I think your review is incomplete, and it has failed your audience, in my opinion. I personally am not going to be overly excited about the score, cause I'm not playing the game, but  fans will. That is where the trouble lies, cause once that bond is broken between reviewer and fan or readers, it is never resealed.

     

    I don't even play the game and can easily see from here that is is an 8.0 or higher. The ammount of detail and respect to character development makes SWTOR look like a board game.

    reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r NowherePosts: 349Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Seems to be a very fair review. And people, ... 7.7 is NOT bad!

    I hope mmorpg.com will keep up this realistic scoring habbit. All gaming sites that ride the waves of player anticipation and accomodate fans in reafirming their hype with very high scores lost much of their credibility in my eyes.

    In that sense some of mmorpg.com's scores of the past might have been a tad on the high side compared to what Tera gets now but this a good precedent.

    We should stop expecting scores only in the 8.5 - 10 bracket.

    heh. Hillaroius You know what you are suggesting? This is like changing game rules on the fly:

    Ok 1:0 for red team. Well 1 is kinda a big number how about from now on we sign only 0.5 for a score.

    7.7 is super ... only all games have 8 and higher XD

  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,365MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Originally posted by I_Return

    Finito, doesn't quite end the conversation for the lack of depth in the review. So much missing in most mmo reviews and readers never get any information in a review about the end game. Doing a mid level raid is nothing like end game raids, mid level pvp is nothing like end level pvp, ect and so on. I think your review is incomplete, and it has failed your audience, in my opinion. I personally am not going to be overly excited about the score, cause I'm not playing the game, but  fans will. That is where the trouble lies, cause once that bond is broken between reviewer and fan or readers, it is never resealed. I don't even play the game and can easily see from here that is is an 8.0 or higher. The ammount of detail and respect to character development makes SWTOR look like a board game.

    This review is the summary of five separate pieces. Please see the previous articles linked at the introduction. Though, I'm sure you read that, right? 

  • Dren_UtogiDren_Utogi OuterSpacePosts: 1,713Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    This review is the summary of five separate pieces. Please see the previous articles linked at the introduction. Though, I'm sure you read that, right?

     

    I read what is on the side of the review. Linking to articles with in a review is like dragging along a scape goat in my opinion.

     

    It would be like me saying here is your apple pie, not follow this link to make it yourself ? ... oesn't quite work well when everyone expected some fresh pieh.

    reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    TERA does very well at being an extremely mediocre game.

    7.7 is perfect.

     The game itself is not mediocre, it just doesn't provide what you specifically want in a game.

     

     

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  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member
    Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Seems to be a very fair review. And people, ... 7.7 is NOT bad!

    I hope mmorpg.com will keep up this realistic scoring habbit. All gaming sites that ride the waves of player anticipation and accomodate fans in reafirming their hype with very high scores lost much of their credibility in my eyes.

    In that sense some of mmorpg.com's scores of the past might have been a tad on the high side compared to what Tera gets now but this a good precedent.

    We should stop expecting scores only in the 8.5 - 10 bracket.

    heh. Hillaroius You know what you are suggesting? This is like changing game rules on the fly:

    Ok 1:0 for red team. Well 1 is kinda a big number how about from now on we sign only 0.5 for a score.

    7.7 is super ... only all games have 8 and higher XD

    *shrugs* You have to start somewhere.

    Pretty on par with metacritic, this, by the way.

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by I_Return

    Finito, doesn't quite end the conversation for the lack of depth in the review. So much missing in most mmo reviews and readers never get any information in a review about the end game. Doing a mid level raid is nothing like end game raids, mid level pvp is nothing like end level pvp, ect and so on.

     

    I think your review is incomplete, and it has failed your audience, in my opinion. I personally am not going to be overly excited about the score, cause I'm not playing the game, but  fans will. That is where the trouble lies, cause once that bond is broken between reviewer and fan or readers, it is never resealed.

     

    I don't even play the game and can easily see from here that is is an 8.0 or higher. The ammount of detail and respect to character development makes SWTOR look like a board game.

    Honestly, I disagree.

    I've played the game, and I think his score is about where it should be. The main problem seems to be how high he rated SWTOR (which I would agree was way too high). This game is basically a solid C. Even on the most populated servers, it's a quest or mob grind. There's not much in the way of PvP atm (even on jagged coast), and it can be hard to find groups to run even the earlier dungeons. A lot of it's issues come down to the simple fact that this game does almost nothing different aside from the combat (which is a lot of fun).

    Even with just diablo3 released, the longevity of this game is starting to show. There's been a noticeable drop in players. The game doesn't have many servers to begin w/, and the game is barely a month old. With even more AAA titles coming down the pipe, we can expect to see even more drops in population, and given that TERA is a sub model, I'm not sure how many will want to come back after such a long break.

  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r NowherePosts: 349Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DarkPony
    Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Seems to be a very fair review. And people, ... 7.7 is NOT bad!

    I hope mmorpg.com will keep up this realistic scoring habbit. All gaming sites that ride the waves of player anticipation and accomodate fans in reafirming their hype with very high scores lost much of their credibility in my eyes.

    In that sense some of mmorpg.com's scores of the past might have been a tad on the high side compared to what Tera gets now but this a good precedent.

    We should stop expecting scores only in the 8.5 - 10 bracket.

    heh. Hillaroius You know what you are suggesting? This is like changing game rules on the fly:

    Ok 1:0 for red team. Well 1 is kinda a big number how about from now on we sign only 0.5 for a score.

    7.7 is super ... only all games have 8 and higher XD

    *shrugs* You have to start somewhere.

    Pretty on par with metacritic, this, by the way.

    aha the only problem is that 

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic

    game has 5.7. So now compare the score on the same site with Tera.

     

     

  • BananaSoupBananaSoup Zielona GPosts: 61Member

    I hate games that i generally have to "yawn" till lvl cap and then be surprised by lack of content.... somehow Tera aint the worst. Its just i seen it all since 2000 and just combat system wont make up for it. 7 is the proper score imho. 

     

    Sorry. I came to this game for pvp (since i am burnt out of pve). Games released... my char is lvl 33 archer and i barely find strength to do more "kill x mobs" quest (i did around 300 of those till lvl 33). Cant even do BAM quests since channels are on low. If i think i have to do another 600+ of those and have only meaningles pvp (pk and gvg-pk with no rewards) at lvl cap i am not really excited to even log in.....

  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member
    Originally posted by I_Return
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    This review is the summary of five separate pieces. Please see the previous articles linked at the introduction. Though, I'm sure you read that, right?

     

    I read what is on the side of the review. Linking to articles with in a review is like dragging along a scape goat in my opinion.

     

    It would be like me saying here is your apple pie, not follow this link to make it yourself ? ... oesn't quite work well when everyone expected some fresh pieh.

    So, you didn't play it, you didn't read the previous articles on which much of this review is founded yet you are accusing the writer that the review isn't complete?

     

  • Dren_UtogiDren_Utogi OuterSpacePosts: 1,713Member Uncommon

    "Innovation 6/10

    This is probably TERA’s main weak link. For all of its fantastic combat, Blue Hole does little else to push the genre forward.  Some may claim that Vanarch (the idea of voting in “rulers” of zones on a monthly basis) is a new twist, but it’s something that’s been done before with games like Archlord as well.  The rest of this is stuff we’ve seen before.  Even the BAMs, fun as they are, are ripped straight from titles like Monster Hunter.  The combat is fantastic, and it really does make tab-target combat feel archaic.  But that’s about all TERA really does to push the genre in any new direction worth tracing in future titles."

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    You voted for the Archlord ? Really ? I don't think so. Archlord is created through beating sdown the archlord in combat.

    Monster Hunter ? Released in America ? I don't think so . Maybe if the majority of us played MH Online, we would be saying "yay you are right"

    Guild War pvp ? not mention.

    End game pvp ? Rewards ? ect...

    This is the problem, reviewers expect innovation to leap out at them , instead of actually having to play the game to find them.

    If you would of made comparison to character development between Tera nad Aion, it would of made more sense. Archlord and Monster Hunter you are way off the mark, so off that your innovation segment makes 0 sense, voiding the score entirely.





     




     

    reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  • cyress8cyress8 Croatia, VTPosts: 832Member
    Originally posted by Pivotelite
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    TERA does very well at being an extremely mediocre game.

    7.7 is perfect.

     The game itself is not mediocre, it just doesn't provide what you specifically want in a game.

     

     

     What exactly can it provide besides combat and the constant LFG spam.  There really is nothing else to do in the game but quest and bam grind.  Even the PvP is not that good.

    BOOYAKA!

  • EvenhopeEvenhope Yardley, PAPosts: 21Member
    I loved the set and graphics I this game. The combat was certainly fun. However, I can't justify the cost for another hub to hub questing themepark MMO. If it were free I'd be playing t daily, and would likely buy the cosmetic features if they werent stupidly expensive.
  • Vunak23Vunak23 In your house eatin'' your cookies, FLPosts: 635Member
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    Though I don't agree with a few things in the review like the UI customization as a whole. But I do agree with the customization when it comes to the Guild UI.

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  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,719Administrator Uncommon

    Hi guys,

    Just wanted to step in and remind you all to stay on-topic. This thread is for the discussion of our TERA review. If you'd like to discuss other reviews we've done please do so in their appropriate comment threads. If you have general feedback on our reviews or review process (and some constructive suggestions to go along with it!) please check out our Site Suggestions board and leave 'em there.

    We WILL remove continued off-topic posts from here on out.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Community Manager
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  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member
    Originally posted by cyress8
    Originally posted by Pivotelite
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    TERA does very well at being an extremely mediocre game.

    7.7 is perfect.

     The game itself is not mediocre, it just doesn't provide what you specifically want in a game.

     What exactly can it provide besides combat and the constant LFG spam.  There really is nothing else to do in the game but quest and bam grind.  Even the PvP is not that good.

     Not liking the PvP is your opinion, also some people like quest grind. But calling the game itself "mediocre" or saying it "screams" f2p like a poster way back is not fair to the game and it's developers.

     

    The graphics are easily the best of any MMO out right now, art style aside, as that is preferential.

     

    The world is larger than Vanilla WoW, easily, what titles release with a world that size lately? Not to mention that world has collision detection, full hitboxes and top tier graphics and is an open world, all while running considerably well on most computers with highest settings!

     

    Animations are crisp and well done, character models are very high quality.

     

    The UI is fully customizable, even more so than Rifts, it comes with a LFG tool and a very unique auction house. Same can not be said for some other games that released recently...*COUGH*.

     

    Your preferences on the game aside and what gameplay it delivers to you, it's the things mentioned above that make this game anything but mediocre or screaming of f2p.

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  • Paragus1Paragus1 Philadelphia, PAPosts: 1,739Member Uncommon

    I still don't see why people are upset about this score being low.   It's a 7.7 or a C+, making it an "OK" game.   It's not the next big thing, but it's hardly a train wreck.   It's a working game with decent enough graphics.   In these parts that's actually an accomplishment.

    The combat is an interesting step forward, but the content and game design in all other respects are the mechanics of old.   If you look at everything else outside the combat system, there is nothing to get overly excited about.  Another theme park quest hub grinder where everyone will spam clicking through the text to kill 10 rats or pick 10 flowers.  Honestly for a lot of people that's just fine but the genre is starting to change.

    With the collapse of SWTOR and upcoming MMOs deviating a bit more, the market is may be unforgiving to TERA in the long term.   Some of my guildmates call it Aion with crosshairs probably due to the art style and whatnot.  This game will probably go the same route as Rift did.   A working and functioning theme park MMO with 1 twist that will have decent success for the next few months.  Depending what they do during these next months before GW2 rolls out will determine if the game and the devs behind it have what it takes to survive a long term battle against a game with no sub fee with a better presentation overall.  Despite what many will claim, these games are and will be competing over the same group of players.

  • Dren_UtogiDren_Utogi OuterSpacePosts: 1,713Member Uncommon

    Until this game get shadowbane type review scores, I probably won't play it. Why I say this is that Shadowbane was so amazing, reviews with their simplistic veiws on gaming couldnt wrap their heads around it. Tera obviously is to simplistic  for me if the reviewer got the majority of what the game did.

    reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

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