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  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by tachgb

    Guild Wars is online only, it's more like an instanced coop singleplayer campaign game, yet people didn't hate on it for being online only, the same goes for World of Tanks. Every MMORPG is online only.

     

    Why is it a bad thing Diablo 3 is the same? It's a persistent online multiplayer game.

    Because Diablo has a huge and loyal following which used to be able to play the game offline, now they cannot and there is seemingly no (gameplay) reason for it. It is just so that Bli$$ard can sell more copies.

  • RequiamerRequiamer ???Posts: 2,034Member

    Op is ridiculous, their design for this particular aspect was prooved wrong with launch, its a total fail here, it was all very much debatable before, but now? Its just plain ridiculous to even argue about this now. I guess OP just need an hug or something.

     

    Cheating is a stupid argument its obvious to a large number of people, unilke few fans here that are totally locked into some silly aspect of it.

     

    Nobody give a crap about cheating in a SOLO game, its your game, you bought it and the only thing you do is cheating yourself if you do so in a solo game. If you want to cheat your solo game, go ahead, nobody is here to police anyone, we are talking about games here are we? And if people want to cheat or mod their solo games, well at least they can learn a bit of coding doing so, amazing isn't it?

    Now for multiplayer, why would you even want to hack the server of a multiplayer game? Who is that stupid to do it, when you have bots and hack that are client side and do the work pretty much without risk. HOOOOOO so its because of RMT, i almost forgot the game economy is meant to be driven by RMT even in your "solo" game, which is a crazy concept Blizz, thumbs up for your crazy imagination, you guys there are like geniuses down there i must admit, no really you guys really are.... So Diablo 3 is a solo / coop game mix, but it have a global trading system "ala mmo" based on RMT, who could tell? Did i miss something here? Why do poeple think Koreans made them shut down AH RMT in their country? because korean don't like RMT maybe? for god sake they invented it and all their game use cash shop... Just be serious guys a second.

    This game is just bad, plain and simple, now fans, defend it all you want, and Blizz, honestly pack your crap, i won't personally put a peny in it, thats for sure. Honestly guys, i talk direclty to you guys at Blizzard, don't you think you went a bit to far?

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yamota

    OP is misinformed. DRM stands for Digital Rights Management and the main purpose of it IS to prevent piracy. Preventing cheaters is secondary because that does not have the same effects on sales as piracy does. Now if what OP says is true, that DRM is to prevent cheating, then Blizzard could have easily bypassed this by having single player characters and multiplayer characters separate from each other.

    That would only make it much easier to write much more Blizzlike emulators and to hack the multiplayer code as a ton of it overlaps.  Try again.

     

    Frankly, I only care about hacks and cheats in co-op play.  I couldn't care less about cheap asses who won't buy a game they like.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon

    I'm just going to sum up the read thus far.

    Me the OP has been deemed a naive QQing ignorant moron who has no concept of what a real game is. The masses deem Diablo 3 a flop, the millions of players who bought the game never knew you had to have the internet to play it. Somehow Diablo 3 is officially a singleplayer game with multiplayer as an afterthought that had a shitty DRM attached to it to piss off the millions of players. Only a small minority wants to play online, everyone else is happy trollin away in their caves. Pirating can't be stopped completely so why try. Cheating can't be stopped so why bother. Blizzard should have made 2 Diablo 3 games $120 for the set. Blizzard is a moneygrab company, so much so that they pushed back the RMAH to get money quicker.

    I'm sure there is more but you all get the point.. maybe.. probably not.. nevermind.

     

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    Originally posted by Yamota

    OP is misinformed. DRM stands for Digital Rights Management and the main purpose of it IS to prevent piracy. Preventing cheaters is secondary because that does not have the same effects on sales as piracy does. Now if what OP says is true, that DRM is to prevent cheating, then Blizzard could have easily bypassed this by having single player characters and multiplayer characters separate from each other.

    That would only make it much easier to write much more Blizzlike emulators and to hack the multiplayer code as a ton of it overlaps.  Try again.

     

    Frankly, I only care about hacks and cheats in co-op play.  I couldn't care less about cheap asses who won't buy a game they like.

    Didn't you get the memo, Diablo 3 is a singleplayer game there is no co-op.

  • tachgbtachgb SheffieldPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by tachgb

    Guild Wars is online only, it's more like an instanced coop singleplayer campaign game, yet people didn't hate on it for being online only, the same goes for World of Tanks. Every MMORPG is online only.

     

    Why is it a bad thing Diablo 3 is the same? It's a persistent online multiplayer game.

     It is just so that Bli$$ard can sell more copies.

    That's a good thing then, too many people pirated Diablo 2 and played with friends over Hamachi.

     

    Diablo3  being online only hasn't stopped it being a global success and for those of us enjoying the game, it's great that all these achievements and unlocks aren't going to get hacked anytime soon.

  • RequiamerRequiamer ???Posts: 2,034Member


    Originally posted by Aori I'm just going to sum up the read thus far. Me the OP has been deemed a naive QQing ignorant moron who has no concept of what a real game is. The masses deem Diablo 3 a flop, the millions of players who bought the game never knew you had to have the internet to play it. Somehow Diablo 3 is officially a singleplayer game with multiplayer as an afterthought that had a shitty DRM attached to it to piss off the millions of players. Only a small minority wants to play online, everyone else is happy trollin away in their caves. Pirating can't be stopped completely so why try. Cheating can't be stopped so why bother. Blizzard should have made 2 Diablo 3 games $120 for the set. Blizzard is a moneygrab company, so much so that they pushed back the RMAH to get money quicker. I'm sure there is more but you all get the point.. maybe.. probably not.. nevermind.  

    Well that wouldn't be the first company that use dirty commercial trick to boost there revenues isn't it? The industry is filled with such examples, they all do that to an extend in every kind of industry, they are not non-commercial organization after all is it?

    Still they are borders to not cross, for their own good, like the good of the players. I personally think Blizz is going overboard here with D3.

    If you like to have your gaming budget shared between the gold farmers and Blizzard for few uber weapon stat go ahead, i don't give a crap. I personally don't like this circus, if i want to get some uber stat weapon (like everyone else) i'll rather give my money to Blizz as a symbol of my gratitude over the great work they made. I'll do that directly, i don't need their masquerade of game design to make it feel better or hidden to me. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe their design have genuine concerns about rmt and they really want to defend the players, maybe, they sure tell it so, its not that i don't believe them, i'm just in doubt here to be honest, but they just didn't convinced me at all, neither you did OP.

    In fact they convinced me of the opposite, its not the first time your intend lead to the opposite effect, it happened to everyone once in a while, and its pretty bad i must admit. I'm sorry if it is so, and the guys at Blizz or you as a fan feel offended, and its very understandable. But still i have all the right to give my opinion as well as any other gamer here, sorry if it offended you, but that's the true.

    And i have all the right to say it here, i gave all the reasons to back me up here, feel free to discard them, its your money after all, if you want to play D3, nobody will forbid you here at least. It is a forum here where people talk openly about their concerns and point of view. Nobody want to turn you into a fool, nobody want to be turned into a fool either, not even me... If you are talking seriously about something stop taking everything personally, the subject is what is discussed here, not you, not even Blizzard.
    For me their game design is just misplaced entirely, and not only the online/offline aspect, but everything around it too.

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo MalboroughPosts: 2,767Member

    Let's be honest here: You defend online only, because it makes other people upset i.e. you're trolling.

     

     

     

    This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.

  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    Originally posted by Yamota

    OP is misinformed. DRM stands for Digital Rights Management and the main purpose of it IS to prevent piracy. Preventing cheaters is secondary because that does not have the same effects on sales as piracy does. Now if what OP says is true, that DRM is to prevent cheating, then Blizzard could have easily bypassed this by having single player characters and multiplayer characters separate from each other.

    That would only make it much easier to write much more Blizzlike emulators and to hack the multiplayer code as a ton of it overlaps.  Try again.

     

    Frankly, I only care about hacks and cheats in co-op play.  I couldn't care less about cheap asses who won't buy a game they like.

    It is not about what you care about but rather what Blizzard cares about and they care about the bottom line which is all this onlin only DRM is about.

  • BanaghranBanaghran HuisoPosts: 869Member
    Originally posted by Yamota

    It is not that easy. You need to keep in mind that ALOT of people played Diablo 1&2 offline and if Blizzard allowed for that then for sure they would lose alot of revenue from those people who would then just use a pirated version of the offline Diablo 3. I am certain this is the main reason for this online only "feature". Everything else is secondary.

    Now either you mean that they were primarily after the 60 bucks for the box, which is kinda laughable, when a rwt system is in play (but ofc, even gaming companies can be petty :) ), or you are saying that people not very likely to buy the game in the first place are good targets for a ingame economy for real money, which is a bit idealistic imo.

    Flame on!

    :)

  • sadeyxsadeyx leicesterPosts: 1,553Member

    I agree.

    Anyone who argues for an 'offline mode'  is simply arguing on behalf of hackers who would pour any amount of resources into exploiting the real money auction.

     

    If you want offline mode, either your ignorant or your a hacker.   Either way your not someone who has any crediibility what so ever.

  • DarSepkiDarSepki NotNeeded, IAPosts: 51Member
    Originally posted by sadeyx

    I agree.

    Anyone who argues for an 'offline mode'  is simply arguing on behalf of hackers who would pour any amount of resources into exploiting the real money auction.

     

    If you want offline mode, either your ignorant or your a hacker.   Either way your not someone who has any crediibility what so ever.

    I find this viewpoint to be extermely ignorant

    One of the reasons I choose not to buy the game is the whole always online crap. I looked as playing diablo as a secondary game, rather than my primary mmo. That means, playing on the road where I may not have a stable internet connection. OP explains his case where he considers it as a multiplayer game first.

    There are other ways to have a DRM without forcing players to always be connected.

    Hacking really only has one factor to be sucessful is determination. For what blizard had done, create a game which was previously a singleplayer with a multiplayer option, to a multiplayer game with a legal means to extract money from it. There are hackers that will continuously attempt to target this. This is the only goal of hackers that you identified. The other goal would be to make the game playable in the way they see fit. By this I mean removing this requirement for those who want just the single player.

    Fact is, since blizard decided release the game like this, it only encourages hackers. The viewpoint that anyone wanting an offline mode supports hackers is ignorant of the fact that developers could, and should have released an offline mode to feed this demand. There were different ways to handle this.

  • gainesvilleggainesvilleg Gainesville, FLPosts: 1,053Member

    Its not a matter of liking or not liking it, it is the trend and the future for a number of reasons.  A couple of these reasons I actually even agree with which is:

    1) Less pirating.  I think companies that make games deserve to be paid.  If you can't afford it, well, thats life.

    2) Less hacking and glitching.  Companies can monitor play statistics and can tell if, all of a sudden, 50 billion gold pieces show up in an account or 50 legendaries with max stats drop our of the blue.  Hackers should be shot and killed they are ruining gaming more than pirates even.  Hackers are ruining the fun for EVERYBODY.

    Internet has now become a utility service just like electricity and water.  I don't like it when I can't play games on my computer when my electricity is out either, but the reality is you need the shared power grid to be operational in order to play games on my computer.  Internet will be just as important for gaming, even single player gaming, in the future so better make sure you live in a country/area that provides good internet along with power grid or you are screwed.

    Both my electricity grid and internet connection is awesome so I'm not fretting...

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Yahoo, COPosts: 4,990Member
    Originally posted by sadeyx

    I agree.

    Anyone who argues for an 'offline mode'  is simply arguing on behalf of hackers who would pour any amount of resources into exploiting the real money auction.

     

    If you want offline mode, either your ignorant or your a hacker.   Either way your not someone who has any crediibility what so ever.

    Lol

    They have a lot more credibility than you ever will spouting this nonsense.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Yahoo, COPosts: 4,990Member
    Originally posted by Aori

    I'm just going to sum up the read thus far.

    Me the OP has been deemed a naive QQing ignorant moron who has no concept of what a real game is. The masses deem Diablo 3 a flop, the millions of players who bought the game never knew you had to have the internet to play it. Somehow Diablo 3 is officially a singleplayer game with multiplayer as an afterthought that had a shitty DRM attached to it to piss off the millions of players. Only a small minority wants to play online, everyone else is happy trollin away in their caves. Pirating can't be stopped completely so why try. Cheating can't be stopped so why bother. Blizzard should have made 2 Diablo 3 games $120 for the set. Blizzard is a moneygrab company, so much so that they pushed back the RMAH to get money quicker.

    I'm sure there is more but you all get the point.. maybe.. probably not.. nevermind.

     

     Drama queen much?

    None of what you "summed up" is anywhere near what most have been saying. 

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    Let's be honest here: You defend online only, because it makes other people upset i.e. you're trolling.

     

     

     

    I beg to differ, most people arguing against D3 online only supposedly won't buy the game. Why should they be upset? They've lost nothing.

    My topic may be controversial, however it is my opinion and nothing I said in my OP was stated as FACT.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Aori

    I'm just going to sum up the read thus far.

    Me the OP has been deemed a naive QQing ignorant moron who has no concept of what a real game is. The masses deem Diablo 3 a flop, the millions of players who bought the game never knew you had to have the internet to play it. Somehow Diablo 3 is officially a singleplayer game with multiplayer as an afterthought that had a shitty DRM attached to it to piss off the millions of players. Only a small minority wants to play online, everyone else is happy trollin away in their caves. Pirating can't be stopped completely so why try. Cheating can't be stopped so why bother. Blizzard should have made 2 Diablo 3 games $120 for the set. Blizzard is a moneygrab company, so much so that they pushed back the RMAH to get money quicker.

    I'm sure there is more but you all get the point.. maybe.. probably not.. nevermind.

     

     Drama queen much?

    None of what you "summed up" is anywhere near what most have been saying. 

    Actually it is pretty close to what people have been saying, maybe you should actually read the thread. You'll find everyone of those points being brought up likely multiple times but in different flavors.

  • Paradigm68Paradigm68 New York, NYPosts: 884Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aori

    Alright i'm going to start off by saying, my only intention of playing Diablo 3 is multiplayer. I find singleplayer games a waste of money for what I personally get out of them. Irrelevant

    Now the big argument right now is that Diablo 3 is a singleplayer game with an online requirement. Personally I missed the memo, Diablo 3 is a multiplayer game with a singleplaying option. Incorrect. D3 is a game with singleplayer and multiplayer modes. The original Diablo was only singleplayer.

    People think that the "DRM" is to prevent piracy. It may help, however I do know that it will eventually be emulated. The online only thing is to prevent corruption of a persistant online game. The DRM serves two roles, anti-piracy is definitely a big one. Since a large portion of even the single player game is server based, the only way to pirate the game successfully would be to create and then configure/install server emulation, basically like private servers for MMO's. This are not something the average gamer/pirate can or is willing to do. Your argument doesn't make sense since D3 isn't persistent.

    We have some big things in Diablo 3. First one being the RMAH and while some people don't like this system it is there. Now if Blizzard can prevent this from being flooded with illegal items then I want them to do what they can. If online only is one of the best measures to prevent most of the problems that plagued Diablo 2 then i'm all for it. Seperate the singleplayer chars from multiplayer and this is not a problem. Start the game, get prompted, single or multi. You select single, the game starts and you play, offline, locally. Select multi and you get the login screen. The forced account creation and logging in (aside from DRM) is to promote as much as possible the use of the AH and RMT by forcing players who would have never encountered it with an offline singleplayer option to have access to it.  That Blizz takes a cut of AH sales makes this obvious.

    The next one which isn't there yet is PvP. Now I personally don't want to play against people who hack, dupe and cheat. Again if online only helps prevent this then I want it to work. This can be done without impacting the singleplayer game.  I know people said it couldn't be done in D2 but that was because they built D2 before they knew it would be a problem.

    Now when cheats do appear and i'm sure some may rear their heads eventually, I hope blizzard will handle it. More or less I know it isn't a sure fire way to stop cheating, piracy and the like. However if it can keep an epidemic far more contained, i'm happy its there.

    I'll stop defending it if Diablo 3 starts showing the corruption that plagues Diablo 2.

     

  • NirrtixNirrtix Friendswood, TXPosts: 173Member
    Originally posted by rexzshadow
    Originally posted by Boreil

    So your telling me that if i went out and bought the game that i could not play it offline in any form ?

    Yep, must be conntect to BNet to play at all time. And yes you will lag and DC when playing by yourself.

    I have not lagged enough to matter or disconnected once. MAybe you jsut need a better internet connection.

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by Nirrtix
    Originally posted by rexzshadow
    Originally posted by Boreil

    So your telling me that if i went out and bought the game that i could not play it offline in any form ?

    Yep, must be conntect to BNet to play at all time. And yes you will lag and DC when playing by yourself.

    I have not lagged enough to matter or disconnected once. MAybe you jsut need a better internet connection.

     I have FIOS 35/35Mb, I DL'd the diablo client at like 3MB/s or so...and yet I still have some lag issues when playing SP.  Note some lag issues, not many.  Maybe like once every 2 hours I will rubberband or something.  Also, the game considers 300ms ping to be "green" which I think is a load of crap.

    It may not seem like a big deal, but it can be HUGE if you are playing hardcore.  One rubberband at an inopportune time can totally wipe your character.

    Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nirrtix
    Originally posted by rexzshadow
    Originally posted by Boreil

    So your telling me that if i went out and bought the game that i could not play it offline in any form ?

    Yep, must be conntect to BNet to play at all time. And yes you will lag and DC when playing by yourself.

    I have not lagged enough to matter or disconnected once. MAybe you jsut need a better internet connection.

     I have FIOS 35/35Mb, I DL'd the diablo client at like 3MB/s or so...and yet I still have some lag issues when playing SP.  Note some lag issues, not many.  Maybe like once every 2 hours I will rubberband or something.  Also, the game considers 300ms ping to be "green" which I think is a load of crap.

    It may not seem like a big deal, but it can be HUGE if you are playing hardcore.  One rubberband at an inopportune time can totally wipe your character.

    He is speaking the truth, there is lag and if you don't have any you're lucky. Now it hasn't been horrible for me or cost me anydeaths but i've rubberbanded and had some delays just not alot.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon

    Nevermind. One of these days they'll get an editor that doesn't suck

     

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Yahoo, COPosts: 4,990Member
    Originally posted by Aori

    Actually it is pretty close to what people have been saying, maybe you should actually read the thread. You'll find everyone of those points being brought up likely multiple times but in different flavors.

     Please, anyone that doesn't essentially support your stance you throw into that category. Many have simply voiced their displeasure over it and left it at that. You're the one with the inherent need to over sensationalize the whole affair. As you proved by the very fact you felt the need to even make this topic.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Paradigm68
    Originally posted by Aori

    Alright i'm going to start off by saying, my only intention of playing Diablo 3 is multiplayer. I find singleplayer games a waste of money for what I personally get out of them. Irrelevant

    How is this irrelevant? I'm letting people know where I am coming from.

    Now the big argument right now is that Diablo 3 is a singleplayer game with an online requirement. Personally I missed the memo, Diablo 3 is a multiplayer game with a singleplaying option. Incorrect. D3 is a game with singleplayer and multiplayer modes. The original Diablo was only singleplayer.

    Blizzard has been toting Diablo 3 a great multiplayer experience with the option of running by yourself if you're an antisocial misfit or just want the story.

    People think that the "DRM" is to prevent piracy. It may help, however I do know that it will eventually be emulated. The online only thing is to prevent corruption of a persistant online game. The DRM serves two roles, anti-piracy is definitely a big one. Since a large portion of even the single player game is server based, the only way to pirate the game successfully would be to create and then configure/install server emulation, basically like private servers for MMO's. This are not something the average gamer/pirate can or is willing to do. Your argument doesn't make sense since D3 isn't persistent.

    Diablo 3 is quite persistent why do you think it isn't? So my argument stands until you can tell me otherwise.

    We have some big things in Diablo 3. First one being the RMAH and while some people don't like this system it is there. Now if Blizzard can prevent this from being flooded with illegal items then I want them to do what they can. If online only is one of the best measures to prevent most of the problems that plagued Diablo 2 then i'm all for it. Seperate the singleplayer chars from multiplayer and this is not a problem. Start the game, get prompted, single or multi. You select single, the game starts and you play, offline, locally. Select multi and you get the login screen. The forced account creation and logging in (aside from DRM) is to promote as much as possible the use of the AH and RMT by forcing players who would have never encountered it with an offline singleplayer option to have access to it.  That Blizz takes a cut of AH sales makes this obvious.

    I'll be honest on this one, I don't know if online only will prevent what I fear and quite honestly no one else does either. No one can truely make an informed reponse unless they work for blizzard. Everything else is speculation at this point.

    The next one which isn't there yet is PvP. Now I personally don't want to play against people who hack, dupe and cheat. Again if online only helps prevent this then I want it to work. This can be done without impacting the singleplayer game.  I know people said it couldn't be done in D2 but that was because they built D2 before they knew it would be a problem.

    What can be done without impacting the singleplayer game and how? Making 2 seperate client with 2 sets of code?

    Now when cheats do appear and i'm sure some may rear their heads eventually, I hope blizzard will handle it. More or less I know it isn't a sure fire way to stop cheating, piracy and the like. However if it can keep an epidemic far more contained, i'm happy its there.

    I'll stop defending it if Diablo 3 starts showing the corruption that plagues Diablo 2.

     

    Thanks for dissecting my opinion, I appreciate it.

  • atticusbcatticusbc Burlington, VTPosts: 1,069Member
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    Let's be honest here: You defend online only, because it makes other people upset i.e. you're trolling.

    I beg to differ, most people arguing against D3 online only supposedly won't buy the game. Why should they be upset? They've lost nothing.

    My topic may be controversial, however it is my opinion and nothing I said in my OP was stated as FACT.

    yes they have. i know plenty of people, myself included, who would be willing to buy it if not for the online only. obviously we're the minority, but still. blizzard has alienated a significant number of people with this idiotic idea of theirs. no they've got a few hundred thousand players who would have bought, but are now waiting for an illegal offline crack. so yeah. good job on avoiding piracy, blizzard.

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