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Metacritic is surprisingly spot on with this one....

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  • TheFirst109TheFirst109 Lincoln Park, NJPosts: 179Member

    If some people are upset that you have to be online to play a single player game, so be it. It's worth it to me to know that the shit that happened in D2 with duping is over.

    As for the game itself, I have 12 or so friends RL friends on my battle.net friend list who all came from a childhood of D2 and they have nothing but good things to say about Diablo 3. My only gripe is that it's pretty easy on Normal and I wish I could have started at a slightly harder difficulty, but in the end it gave me a chance to familiarize a few of my friends who have never even played video games but wanted to try this.

    Not everyone is going to be satisfied with the game, especially people who skip all of the story to get to the end, but then again those people are never satisfied with anything. I personally think the story is pretty amazing, and the cutscenes are rewards unlike anything I've seen in a video game to date.

  • korat102korat102 Milton KeynesPosts: 313Member
    Originally posted by TheFirst109

    If some people are upset that you have to be online to play a single player game, so be it. It's worth it to me to know that the shit that happened in D2 with duping is over.

    DRM will do what DRM always does. Piss off the legitimate customers by giving them an inferior product. Pirates always find a way around these things - what one man makes another can dismantle.

    Remember how it works with DvD's. The pirates are already halfway through the film while the rest of us are still waiting for the unskippable threats and trailers for next years trash to be over and done with.

  • TheFirst109TheFirst109 Lincoln Park, NJPosts: 179Member
    Originally posted by korat102
    Originally posted by TheFirst109

    If some people are upset that you have to be online to play a single player game, so be it. It's worth it to me to know that the shit that happened in D2 with duping is over.

    DRM will do what DRM always does. Piss off the legitimate customers by giving them an inferior product. Pirates always find a way around these things - what one man makes another can dismantle.

    Remember how it works with DvD's. The pirates are already halfway through the film while the rest of us are still waiting for the unskippable threats and trailers for next years trash to be over and done with.

    What the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about DRM, I'm talking about duping in game items lol. PSO and D2 were plagued by it, at least now that the game requires you to be on battlenet it won't happen.

  • ScalebaneScalebane La Junta, COPosts: 2,225Member

    Never used Metacritic, why do people rely on others for reviews, review the game for yourself i say :P

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  • ormstungaormstunga sthlmPosts: 736Member

    Wow ppl are going to incredible lengths to make a 3.6 rating a good thing....or make all kinds of silly excuses or twists of "logic". I dont get it. If you enjoy the game, why care so much? SWtor started out on 3.1 I think and its now 5.7 something, which does feel relatively fair. I'm sure D3 will pan out at around 6 (coz like someone already said, ppl happy with the game are too busy enjoying it atm), which is also fair imo considering so many ppl have the same issues with it (already listed in this thread, if you dont read threads why even bother?) and are quite disappointed. To some its a 9 or 10, which is perfectly fine! To others its a 2 or 3. Get over it already.

  • adam_noxadam_nox hays, KSPosts: 2,036Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ormstunga

    Wow ppl are going to incredible lengths to make a 3.6 rating a good thing....or make all kinds of silly excuses or twists of "logic".

    You call what are actually facts, excuses, and then put logic in quotes.  The irony is thick.

  • I'd say it's at least an 8/10. Depending on its lasting appeal it could be a 9. The 87 metacritic rating is pretty much around where it should be.

  • ste2000ste2000 londonPosts: 4,706Member Uncommon

    Maybe a 3.6 is a bit too low of a score, but surely Diablo 3 doesn't deserve more than 6.

    It is a massive disappointment IMO

    I owned Diablo 1 and played Diablo 2 for ages and loved them.

    But Diablo 3 just doesn't cut it in 2012.............sorry Blizzard

  • AqueAque Hemet, CAPosts: 118Member

    I would not use Metacritic, They have alot of games under rated which should not be.

    Most of the games they have on low review I have tried and there not as bad as they make it sound and or near what review score they gave it. ( Again just my opinion)

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Maybe a 3.6 is a bit too low of a score, but surely Diablo 3 doesn't deserve more than 6.

    It is a massive disappointment IMO

    I owned Diablo 1 and played Diablo 2 for ages and loved them.

    But Diablo 3 just doesn't cut it in 2012.............sorry Blizzard

     What has changed? How does gameplay in 2012 need to be any different from 1999?

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member Common
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Maybe a 3.6 is a bit too low of a score, but surely Diablo 3 doesn't deserve more than 6.

    It is a massive disappointment IMO

    I owned Diablo 1 and played Diablo 2 for ages and loved them.

    But Diablo 3 just doesn't cut it in 2012.............sorry Blizzard

     What has changed? How does gameplay in 2012 need to be any different from 1999?

    It has to be funner, donchaknow?

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Maybe a 3.6 is a bit too low of a score, but surely Diablo 3 doesn't deserve more than 6.

    It is a massive disappointment IMO

    I owned Diablo 1 and played Diablo 2 for ages and loved them.

    But Diablo 3 just doesn't cut it in 2012.............sorry Blizzard

     What has changed? How does gameplay in 2012 need to be any different from 1999?

     People's taste, experience and expectations have changed. if it didn't then we would simply be happy playing the same game over and over with slightly upgraded graphics year after year. i.e Jet Set Willy 2012.

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by jusomdude
    Originally posted by DarkPony
    Originally posted by jusomdude

    No, just no, the rating is due to nerd ragers who couldn't log in at midnight at launch.

    That's probably a part of it but not the only reason I expect: there's also a lot of disgruntled D2 vets commenting on how this is not the game that they were looking forward to for over a decade.

    Ok, so there are some who are nerd raging that diablo 3 ins't diablo 2.

    Pretty much. When a company decides to corpse rape a long time established IP instead of moving into new territory they have to expect this kind of behavior. In other words if they don't want vetran fans bitching about how this game doesn't stack up against its predecessors, instead of judging it by its own merrits, they shouldn't have named it Diablo 3.

    To me releasing a third installment of a game series twelve years on, after the majority of the people that made the earlier games great have f*cked off elsewhere, isn't a sequel. Its just a vain attempt to retain market place relevence.

    In my not so humble opinion, D3 as its own game is just fine for a clicky walky dungeon crawler. (Not fine enough for me to shell out my own dosh to the frankenstein's monster that is modern day Blizzard mind you. But I will still play it a bit on one of my house mates accounts.) As a Diablo sequel however I find it to be the redheaded step-child of the Diablo legacy. Just one of those siblings doomed to hear "Why can't you be more like your older brother Ralph" for eternity.

     Time and again it's happened that if you don't change things you get excoriated for not bringing anythng new or crucified for not staying true to a game's roots if you changing the littlest thing. Often at the same time for the same sequel. Is it any wonder developers don't listen to us?


    And I don't disagree with your point, damned if you do, damned if you don't. However, maybe these juggernaught companies could try creating N E W games for a change. Instead of just dragging out, dusting off, and tarting up their old doddering whores, time and time again. Maybe then all the horse sh*t we just mentioned would go away. Or at least bring in some fresh horse sh*t for us to wade through in shinny new big boots.

     Unfortunately our buying patterns don't reflect this. Sequels have always been the safer more profitable route. Hence we get Witcher 2, a very good and sucessful sequel, instead of something completely different from CD Projekt RED. An independent and innovative studio. Entirely new projects are almost always financially riskier.

    And is this because sequels really are the safer bet or is it just that buyers aren't given much of a choice when it comes to N E W games. And I'm talking from long established studios, not new fly-by-night ones with shoestring budgets and uncertain futures.

    I'm sure the statistics on people who still shave with straight razors are pretty high in the injury per user percentage when compared to safety razors, but only because there are so fewer of them.

    Or we could use the film industry for an example. Are people queueing up in droves to see these lukewarm rehashed and hollow films this crap factory produces because they love them? Or is it they just want to watch something but only have these poor quality films to choose from?

     The blockbuster movie hit of 2012 isn't a remake or a sequel. Most computer games released these days are either MMOs or console games ported to PC. Historically all computer game innovation comes from small studios. The vast majority of them fail miserably. The really good ones are bought out by conglomerates and produce nothing but sequels. The problem now is just as video killed the radio stars consoles are killing PC gaming.PCs are not where the big money is made except for at Blizzard

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  • KalferKalfer HappylandPosts: 779Member
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Just wanted to point this out after someone in another thread stated Metacritic wasn't a reliable source:

     

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo  [8.3]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-ii  [8.5]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii  [3.6]

     

    Pretty much my thoughts entirely.

     

    Oh, and just for a bit of reference for those of you looking for stronger data =):

     

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-ii  [4.2]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dead-island  [6.8]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3  [3.9]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-2  [8.5]

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    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect  [8.4]

     

     

    I'm having a hard time finding one "User Rating" I don't disagree with other than Dead Island that I believe should have been a 5.8 instead of a 6.8, but that's because I'm a BIT more critical about zombie based games than others in its genre ;)!

     

     

    Don't worry about any of this If YOU enjoy the game at the end of the day. However, just realize that after everything is said and done Diablo 3 was not the game it should have been. For the fans :|....

     

    1) why make a new thread? 

     

    2) You hand pick and choose a few titles, and then claim they are spot on? They are spot on in YOUR world, but the world and overall opinions of EVERYONE ELSE and even THE MAJORITY OF GAMERS WHO DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN METACRITIC-LIKE RATING SYSTEMS OR WHO ARE INVESTED INTERNET GAMING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

     

    3) The game has been out for less than two days. Don't be so quick to jump the gun and claim your the spokesman for "fans". That's a broad term, and it's borderline trolling to talk about it as factual. 

     

     

     

    4)I don't even own Diablo 3. Games seemed fun to me. It's so apparent to see that this is a popularity contest, and it just being cool and hip to hate on Bioware and Blizzard. You haven't played a game worthy of such a low score like 3/10.

     

    5) Rating system is dumb. Like all statistics and studies they are easily manipulated to prove a point. I could go scout metacritic for certain games with certain ratings to build my own case. but what would be the point? Metacritic doesnt pull in all types of gamers. There is a great silent majority out there who dont use internet forums, who will love Diablo 3 without knowing much about it prior. Those people are fans too. Nobody here is going to express their views. 

    If the opinions on gaming forums reflected real life opinions Madden and Call of Duty wouldnt be best selling franchises and WoW would have been long dead. 

     

     

     

    Open your mind. 

  • teakboisteakbois Parlin, NJPosts: 2,154Member

    Wonder what the score is by people who werent die hard diablo 2 fans, and by people who arent just butthurt over the servers being down.  Those two types of people are worthless for real, honest reviews.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Maybe a 3.6 is a bit too low of a score, but surely Diablo 3 doesn't deserve more than 6.

    It is a massive disappointment IMO

    I owned Diablo 1 and played Diablo 2 for ages and loved them.

    But Diablo 3 just doesn't cut it in 2012.............sorry Blizzard

     What has changed? How does gameplay in 2012 need to be any different from 1999?

     People's taste, experience and expectations have changed. if it didn't then we would simply be happy playing the same game over and over with slightly upgraded graphics year after year. i.e Jet Set Willy 2012.

     It's also like if you look at the transition from D1 to D2...

    We went from a game with...

    1.  Three classes that basically shared all the same abilities but were just "better" at certain things.

    2.  Exclusively dungeon environments in exception for the town.

    3.  Essentially one graphical and cultural theme throughout the entire game (gothic).

    4.  No "server-side" characters which resulted in people being able to hack the game with a simple client side trainer.

    To a game with...

    1.  Five classes that all had unique abilities.

    2.  Varied environment including several outdoor environments.

    3.  Multiple graphical and cultural themes that you get to experience throughout the game, such as Egyptian and Mayan themes.

    4.  Online play over Battle.NET with server-side characters in addition to traditional single player with client side characters.  This really cut down on cheating (if you don't believe this, you didn't play D1) and still allowed people to play single player.

     

    There's just so much there that changed.  D2 was in almost every way bigger, badder, and better than D1.  But D3 is extremely similiar to D2 and even offers less in some cases.

    The ironic thing is that I'm almost certain D3 will get a metascore in the 90's or upper eighties, while D2 had a metascore significantly less than D1 despite improving on almost every aspect of D1.

    Our standards used to be higher lol...

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 chapel hill, NCPosts: 1,798Member Uncommon

    I like the game. It feels like Diablo to me and I am having fun. Dont really care what the reviews are.    *shrugs*


  • teakboisteakbois Parlin, NJPosts: 2,154Member
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

     The blockbuster movie hit of 2012 isn't a remake or a sequel. 

    Explain to me how it isnt a sequel?  Its a sequel to multiple movies at once but it surely is a sequel.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by teakbois

    Wonder what the score is by people who werent die hard diablo 2 fans, and by people who arent just butthurt over the servers being down.  Those two types of people are worthless for real, honest reviews.

     Were I to score it, I would give it an 8.  I think that's fair.

    It's a very fun game and I'm really enjoying it, but I don't think it's much of an improvement over its predecessor.  And the whole "always online" thing really does detract from the single player experience.  I mean, this is the first time I've ever rubber banded while playing a single player game lol.

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by teakbois
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

     The blockbuster movie hit of 2012 isn't a remake or a sequel. 

    Explain to me how it isnt a sequel?  Its a sequel to multiple movies at once but it surely is a sequel.

     You mean besides being completely different?

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  • BigHatLoganBigHatLogan Bellingham, WAPosts: 688Member

    If I were to score D3 I would give it a 3.  I haven't played it or even seen a video of it being played.  I think i saw a screenshot but that might be Torchlight 2.  The reason I would give it a 3 is because there is no pvp.  I don't find challenge in exploiting stupid AI's or whatnot.  Players are the only real challenge.  Also, I dislike all aRPG games since I consider them boring click fests. 

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by teakbois
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

     The blockbuster movie hit of 2012 isn't a remake or a sequel. 

    Explain to me how it isnt a sequel?  Its a sequel to multiple movies at once but it surely is a sequel.

     I would just call it a movie in the same franchise as the others.

    Because it really isn't a direct sequel to any of the other movies...it's more of a "spin-off."  Calling it a sequel, would be like calling "The Justice League" a sequel to "Superman."

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by BigHatLogan

    If I were to score D3 I would give it a 3.  I haven't played it or even seen a video of it being played.  I think i saw a screenshot but that might be Torchlight 2.  The reason I would give it a 3 is because there is no pvp.  I don't find challenge in exploiting stupid AI's or whatnot.  Players are the only real challenge.  Also, I dislike all aRPG games since I consider them boring click fests. 

     Don't yah think it's just a bit unfair to rate a game you haven't ever played :)?

    I mean...I've been pretty harsh on D3 for all the crap they are pulling, but I still admit it's a fairly decent game.

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  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Amory, MSPosts: 2,544Member Uncommon

    Diablo 3 gets a 3.6, Mass Effect 3 gets a 3.9, and Dragon Age 2 gets a 4.2?  That sounds an awful lot like heaps of fanboys nerdraging over how their game wasn't what they thought it would be, or are we honestly saying those games are worse than:

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/two-worlds

    Any time a highly anticipated title is released, you're going to have people with incredibly unrealistic expecations, and those people will always be disappointed when they actually start playing said game.  I couldn't imagine waiting 11 years for Diablo 3, and from that perspective, I don't blame people for having unrealistic expectations, but I don't see how any responsible reviewer could give this game any less than an 8 out of 10.

  • BigHatLoganBigHatLogan Bellingham, WAPosts: 688Member
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by BigHatLogan

    If I were to score D3 I would give it a 3.  I haven't played it or even seen a video of it being played.  I think i saw a screenshot but that might be Torchlight 2.  The reason I would give it a 3 is because there is no pvp.  I don't find challenge in exploiting stupid AI's or whatnot.  Players are the only real challenge.  Also, I dislike all aRPG games since I consider them boring click fests. 

     Don't yah think it's just a bit unfair to rate a game you haven't ever played :)?

    I mean...I've been pretty harsh on D3 for all the crap they are pulling, but I still admit it's a fairly decent game.

    Certainly it is unfair, but that is why you need to be wary of metacritic.  I'd also give League of Legends a 3 because I hate MOBA games.  I don't even know what MOBA stands for and I can't seem to make an acronym for  "Lots of idiotic mobs running into each other" out of the letters M O B and A. 

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