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Diablo 3: Review-in-Progress Part One

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  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

    Did you read the 3/4ths of the article where he explains that the game is great fun? The servers have had issues and I would expect no decent game reporter to ignore that. Mike was just reporting the facts about server outages. It's only the first two paragraphs of an otherwise glowing review. Get a grip please.

     

    Bren

     
     

    Ok let me explain, I did read it but reviews that start negative and end negative usually overshadow the good if people even read the middle and most don't.

    There is also this whole idea of starting a review without a conclusion. So people will read a review during launch and get a sour taste, they are likely not be interested anymore if they were on the fence. Why come back to read the finished review if it starts off bad?

    I don't like this style of reviewing, you review the product and then after some months of settle you review it again if you think its needed.

     

    Almost every online game has server issues at launch. WoW had horrendous server issues at launch and every review site slammed them for it... It really doomed that game to failure didn't it? If Mike had of ignored the launch server issues and only reported the positive there would be even more people on here slamming him for that. A review should include the entire player experience from the game install to the actual game play. I would expect no less.

     

    Bren

     

    That is fine, I think you missed my point though. Since this is only part of the review, we're dealing with launch problems. People are just going to take this review at face value and likely never come back. They don't have the whole picture and only a snippet of what the game has to offer.

    It could be the best game in the world, however if you do the review about launch day and nothing else.. well people will likely lose interest because of the problems initially and never come back to hear the rest of the story.

  • Paul1284Paul1284 VajdaPosts: 3Member

    The writing was of poor quality, especially the ending which was cheesy. They clearly used their WoW quest writers to write the storyline which they should not have done for a game storyline which should have better writing.

    It has a very annoying "always online" DRM. You are not allowed to play single player offline, so whenever blizzard's servers go down (every tuesday for maintenance and whenever they have problems) you get kicked off and cannot play. This is not an MMO and irritating DRM that stops you playing a game you paid for as single player should obviously be taken into account in a review.

    Very little character customization, this should not be defined as an RPG. Stats are automatically given, you cannot choose where to put them and by level 60 you have all the skills in the game, so there is no decision making on your part to customize a character apart from what items to wear.

    The cinematic's graphical quality is excellent, but the poor writing hurts them abit. Especially the ending which was a big let down.

     

    I found that the auctionhouse trivilaizes the item drops I find, because I could always get much better items than what I could find on the auctionhouse for low prices. Suddenly my item drops don't matter.

     
     
     
  • PalaziousPalazious Lewiston, IDPosts: 162Member

    I sure wish that MMORPG.com would stick with MMOs.

     

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  • CabalocCabaloc Fort Pierce, FLPosts: 116Member
    Originally posted by Palazious

    I sure wish that MMORPG.com would stick with MMOs.

     

    When you are offered some beta pass's, kickbacks of course your gonna advert there product .

  • ScalebaneScalebane La Junta, COPosts: 2,225Member

    I'm having fun with it, not sure what all the emo is around here.

     

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  • ScalebaneScalebane La Junta, COPosts: 2,225Member
    Originally posted by Cabaloc
    Originally posted by Palazious

    I sure wish that MMORPG.com would stick with MMOs.

     

    When you are offered some beta pass's, kickbacks of course your gonna advert there product .

    i dunno mike did say there was a vote on it and the yes votes beat the no votes for a review aparently...or we can just speculate n stuff :)

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  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,719Administrator Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

    Did you read the 3/4ths of the article where he explains that the game is great fun? The servers have had issues and I would expect no decent game reporter to ignore that. Mike was just reporting the facts about server outages. It's only the first two paragraphs of an otherwise glowing review. Get a grip please.

     

    Bren

     
     

    Ok let me explain, I did read it but reviews that start negative and end negative usually overshadow the good if people even read the middle and most don't.

    There is also this whole idea of starting a review without a conclusion. So people will read a review during launch and get a sour taste, they are likely not be interested anymore if they were on the fence. Why come back to read the finished review if it starts off bad?

    I don't like this style of reviewing, you review the product and then after some months of settle you review it again if you think its needed.

     

    Almost every online game has server issues at launch. WoW had horrendous server issues at launch and every review site slammed them for it... It really doomed that game to failure didn't it? If Mike had of ignored the launch server issues and only reported the positive there would be even more people on here slamming him for that. A review should include the entire player experience from the game install to the actual game play. I would expect no less.

     

    Bren

     

    That is fine, I think you missed my point though. Since this is only part of the review, we're dealing with launch problems. People are just going to take this review at face value and likely never come back. They don't have the whole picture and only a snippet of what the game has to offer.

    It could be the best game in the world, however if you do the review about launch day and nothing else.. well people will likely lose interest because of the problems initially and never come back to hear the rest of the story.

    This is a review-in-progress, not our full review. I clearly explained this in the article and even said to take this as a sort of first impressions of the launch game. Considering the majority of the first 24 hours of launch consisted of varying levels of instability and/or outright downtime I felt it was prudent to mention this as it directly affected my ability to play the game and actually experience material to review.

    I was able to get in a couple of hours and then had to stop because, again, the servers were down. At that point I just decided to write the piece and by the time I was done servers were still down. ;)

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • MMOarQQMMOarQQ BoogalululuPosts: 636Member
    Originally posted by Palazious

    I sure wish that MMORPG.com would stick with MMOs.

     

     

    Didn't you hear? Anything that forces you to be online to play and offers coop is an MMORPG now.

  • elvenwolfelvenwolf RomePosts: 139Member

    IT is a bit fun how some people says he is on blizzard payroll,and how some other says he bash the game too much.

     

    So far i can say he just said mostly fact, if you enjoy this kind o fgames,  it is a fun game, but right now  due to the need of being online is down most of the time.

     

    And is an online game,  and mostly is one of the biggest hit of this year, or at least should be, i find normal they give it coverage,  what  they should be talking about?  EU economic crisis? 

     

  • GroovyFlowerGroovyFlower RdamPosts: 1,245Member
    Originally posted by TheDor

    And why is a game that is clearly not an MMO getting an in-depth multi week review on MMORPG? Have we run out of things to talk about that actually are MMO related?

    Skyrim was even alot more popular here on mmorpg then diablo3 but it did not get there own section maybe becouse its solo rpg dunno but skyrim was huge on this site for months.

  • ThydusThydus RiminiPosts: 24Member
    Originally posted by calranthe

    Happy I decided not to buy, hate the restrictive DRM and ego has become a company run by accountants not gamers.

    Waiting happily for Torchlight 2

    No DRM

    Software developement kit

    lan play

    single play

    $20

    pets

    +1

  • ShmackpappyShmackpappy Grand Island, NYPosts: 75Member
    Originally posted by Cabaloc
    Originally posted by Palazious

    I sure wish that MMORPG.com would stick with MMOs.

     

    When you are offered some beta pass's, kickbacks of course your gonna advert there product .

    Why do people always have to go there and assume their is some kinda big consipracy.  MMORPG polled its users and while it is not an MMO there is some crossover and, more than that, some obvious interest on this site by its users.  And even if it's not a MMO WHO FREAKIN CARES!  It is another game for us to play. 

  • ShodanasShodanas PatrasPosts: 896Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Boltonsquad

    Completed the game at level 36 just over 15 hours gameplay, Worth it? not really bored the hell outta me.

    How do you people manage these times is beyond my grasp, really. Do you just tunell vision to your next objective? I just finished act I with my level 17 demon huntress and checked my statistics. 8 hours 4 minutes played, 230 achievement points, 37K gold collected, my blacksmith is already level 3. 

    Overall, the game for me is solid and fun. 

  • WicoaWicoa LondonPosts: 1,602Member Uncommon

    Diablo 3 is really fun, I get the speccing system now and find it really individualises my pixels.  Though I will probably also buy torch light 2.

    The question is when will I have time for my pay monthly mmo... qq.

  • MahavishnuMahavishnu BerlinPosts: 336Member

    this guy really hits the nail on the head with his review

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9WbqdYuba4&feature=plcp

    Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,501Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mahavishnu

    this guy really hits the nail on the head with his review

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9WbqdYuba4&feature=plcp

    The Biscuit nailed it this time.

  • TokkenTokken Portland, ORPosts: 1,154Member Uncommon

    Why is D3 even on Mmorpg.com?  It's not a MMO.... please explain. Thanks.

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  • DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIPosts: 1,406Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tokken

    Why is D3 even on Mmorpg.com?  It's not a MMO.... please explain. Thanks.

    Actually, Diablo 3 is more an MMO than most modern games, e.g., SWTOR.

     

  • BurntvetBurntvet Baltimore, MDPosts: 2,942Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mmoDAD
    Originally posted by Tokken

    Why is D3 even on Mmorpg.com?  It's not a MMO.... please explain. Thanks.

    Actually, Diablo 3 is more an MMO than most modern games, e.g., SWTOR.

     

     

    Straight Payola. D3/Bliz paid to advertise here, and thus they get favorable coverage as part of the "package".

    Personally, as a long time gamer, I find D3 to be an insult: always required internet connection so that their real money auction house for a single player game can be made to work. Plus, no choice in character builds to boot.

    I won't pay more than $10 for this game, assuming I ever get around to buying it.

     

    Blizzard made fans wait 10+ years for this?!?

     

     

  • Regulator29Regulator29 Rockford, ILPosts: 1Member

    i actually like Diablo 3, i was mad when the servers were down but who cares, I just beat it on Normal while only dying about 15 times (mostly at bosses, those being Maghda and Izual).  Didn't die at Diablo which was surprising but he was a long fight.  I got the game for free so I'm not complaining at all.

  • GyrusGyrus Lost City of ZPosts: 2,335Member

    I have to agree with the other posters MMORPG.com  .... or should that be AGTRAICAWTAH.com?

    (Any Game That Requires An Internet Connection And Where They Advertize Here.com)

     

    I haven't played Diablo III and maybe it is a great game??  But there are lots of other great games out there that require an internet connection too.  Are they MMOs though?

     

    Maybe it's time to revive these threads?:

    FARM TOWN vs. MMORPG.com

    Scott Jennings: Farmville Killed Gaming, V-Worlds, And Your Dog

    If Diablo III is going to get reviewed here then it's time REAL MMOs (by comparison) get the same treatment.

    I await with interest Mike B's catch up reviews on all the Facebook games this site has missed...

     

     

     

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon

    I haven't had too many problems with the servers, you just have to spam your log in really fast to get in (yay cut n paste lol).  I've played quite a bit and I've only found one thing that I don't like.  The lack of a necromancer.  Now I know why he's not in there (or some varient).  Everyone remembers necro lag right?  The witch doctor is a decent substitute, but I want more pets.  I mean I don't need 78 (i think that was my record) pets running around, but like 10 would be better than what we get now.  I've always been a big fan of pet classes in any game with them.  And Witch Doctor is no exception, but like the emperor i need "MORE [PETS!]" lol

  • sonoggisonoggi tdot, ONPosts: 1,119Member

    the game is absoutely amazing. ive a lvl 26 monk and the amount of viable, fun builds is staggering. D3 will keep many busy until GW2 is out, and then some.

  • severiusseverius sacramento, CAPosts: 1,514Member Common

    Don't believe there is a game here at all.  Nothing but a scam to get us to fund the next third of starcraft 2.  2 days and zero hours of playtime.  Effing pathetic.

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  • HurricanePipHurricanePip Sommerille, MAPosts: 167Member
    Originally posted by calranthe

    Happy I decided not to buy, hate the restrictive DRM and ego has become a company run by accountants not gamers.

    Waiting happily for Torchlight 2

    No DRM

    Software developement kit

    lan play

    single play

    $20

    pets


    Yeah, I have to wonder if TL2 can provide 90% of D3's content for $20 ... why are people paying Blizzard $60?

     

    Also, I hope that Michael Bitton will draw some comparisons to both other action-rpg games and D2 itself.  I loved D2, but that was 10+ years ago.  I've yet to understand what D3 offers that wasn't in D2 other than upgraded graphics.  Maybe that's being a little negative, but all I read is "Blizzard is awesome!!", but (p)reviewers don't really qualify why D3 is awesome in relation to previous games in the series.  Same went for SC2.  Everything I played in that beta was something I had played in both SC and other games 10 years before.

     

    To me, it seems like Blizzard is just milking the "what was old is new again" marketing strategy in that there's a new generation that doesn't know they're playing a recycled game that hasn't fundementally changed from its previous iteration 12 years ago.

     

    If you don't worry about it, it's not a problem.

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