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Diablo 3: Review-in-Progress Part One

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  • soulwyndsoulwynd Petropolis, Rio de JaneiroPosts: 47Member

    The game is extremely childish. It was made retard prof without any bit of planing, choice or tactical elements. Equipment is next to meaningless. I'm at level 30 running naked and killing everything on sight by holding my left mouse button.

     

    It's by far my worst purchase of this year and the worst dungeon crawler I have played. Not even Dungeon Siege was this bare-bone and this simplistic.

     

    And I'm not even considering the always on DRM, error 37, stupid server issues like having 1500ms latency when pinging any west coast site gives me normal pings.

     

    I'm gonna go call my bank and request a charge-back now and assume this site based review will either be made by an impressible 8 year old or a biased guy.

     
  • MMOarQQMMOarQQ BoogalululuPosts: 636Member
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Originally posted by TheDor

    And why is a game that is clearly not an MMO getting an in-depth multi week review on MMORPG? Have we run out of things to talk about that actually are MMO related?




     

    Like Mike pointed out it has at least "crappy launch days" in common with mmorpgs. Lolz.

    Also I think it was Suzie or Bill that said that even when Diablo III isn't technically a mmorpg, it has many things in common (apart from the massively bit) and the target groups overlap for a great deal too.

     

    This and the fact that majority readers asked for it to be covered. Plus, at BlizzCon, Wyatt basically said "It's an MMO in our eyes, but we're not calling it that officially." Yes, it's missing a shared world, but given the always-on (except when it's down, lolz) nature of the title and its social aspects, is it really that much of a stretch?

     

    I say this with all due respect. How gullible do you think this site's readers really are?

  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

    I played both D1 and D2.  Also was a fan of Titan Quest.  Did the beta stress test and was not blown away.  It seems like the graphics are cartoony.  One of the best things about Diablo was how eerie it was.  I didn't get that feel from what I saw.

    The bottom line for me though was that I will not support a single player game that requires you to log into a server.  I think the design decision is based more on a cash grab from the AH and rmt's, than anything else.  I expect lag spikes and disconnects etc when I am playing an mmo, not on my single player game that I have no intention of playing online.

    I don't like the idea and I voted with my pocket book.

    My friend really enjoyed the beta and was anxious to play yesterday...didn't talk to him to see if he was actually able to get in when he got home.

  • JackdogJackdog Charleston, SCPosts: 6,344Member

    I think I will wait till it hits the bargain bins. Loved D1 and  D2, played them for weeks but be damned if I will pay that kind of money for a rehash of D2..

    I miss DAoC

  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,356MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Originally posted by MMOarQQ

    <<p>I say this with all due respect. How gullible do you think this site's readers really are?

    Not even a little bit. We've covered this ground before. We held a poll, the "Yes" beat the "No." And we all agreed (the staff) that it was of enough shared interest to cover over the course of launch and beyond. If it helps, we'll likely be covering TL2 as well for the same reasons. In the future, if we're able, we'll be opening a site simply for "other" RPGs. But for now, we'll do stuff that has crossover potential here.

  • nyxiumnyxium ManchesterPosts: 1,221Member Uncommon

    My experience was terrible. Just.. words fail. Maybe next year if I try again. Or perhaps not.

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon

    It's really a buggy mess right now.

    - Problems with servers. Login issues. Lag. Etc.

    - Characters dissapearing.

    - Achievement system not working and for those who it does, they lose most of it after a relog.

    I find it really baffling that the achievement system appearently wasn't tested AT ALL ?!

  • rwyanrwyan raleigh, NCPosts: 461Member

    I was able to sneak some time in.  I loved D2 - though I could only manage a few play throughs before I got bored :)

     

    So far, I like it.  I do miss the erie atmosphere of D2 and D1.  I feel like they've made some great useability improvements over D2 (though online only is a huge step back).

     

    I like the advancement system.  RPGs in general are moving away from the talent/skill tree system in favor of some form of "deck" building system.  We've seen so many takes on the talent tree, I think Blizzard had no choice but to try something different.  I also think making the game compatible with consoles is another reason for the system.

     

    It definitely isn't as genre defining as D2 was - and Blizzard will get flack for that.  I think thats the inherent problem.... it feels like another D2 clone.

     
     
  • DeathTrippDeathTripp Orlando, FLPosts: 263Member
    Originally posted by MMORPG

    A lot of readers like to point out that Diablo III isn’t an MMO whenever we post an article or news post about the game, but...

    So then why are you guys posting about it?

    I guess Blizzard threw enough cash your way??

    I suppose that is one way to operate.

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    Real as Reality Television!!!

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon

    It's way to early to review the game but I'll give my gut feelings.  I'm level 20 and in Act II.  I enjoy the gameplay of my Barb and don't miss the talent trees or setting my STR, VIT ...

     

    I do miss the original voice behind Tyrael though.  The new voice actor just isn't nearly as powerful.  The same goes for the soundtrack.  So far it's a dud.

     

    The game is definitely fun.  But there's only one Diablo 2 and the successor's, whetther made by blizzard or elsewhere, will never be the same for me.

  • TatercakeTatercake Auburn, WAPosts: 279Member

    well i rmeber when diablo 1 came out loved it couldnt stop playing it  my isster at the time even broke it and threw it away  so i wouldnt play it  then 2 came out it was ok little difrent and now 3 well i lost all desire to play it not even interested in it dint even try my betta invite old  crap old news  should have been out 8 years augo  you all can have it i got better  things to play than old news 

     

  • cscurlockcscurlock Philadelphia, PAPosts: 38Member

    It's the little things you really enjoy.   The rats running out of the bushes.  Half a guys body crawling across the floor.  This game is epic. 

    People complaining about graphics make me laugh.  This is not Crysis 2.  Gameplay is the key here.  Too easy for you on normal? Try inferno.   

    Anyone who played the first 2 are playing this.   Also don't expect this on the bargain bin any time soon.  D2 was $40 like 8 years after launch. 

    Not happy there is no offline mode.  But they had to do this to prevent cheating.  I expect most companies to start following suit. 

     

  • KostKost Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,975Member

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

  • Zander123Zander123 Chicago, ILPosts: 1Member

    Eww. A lot of good and bad about D3. Well, for me I enjoy playing it. Made it threw act 1. The game play is great and with the server problem, for me it was only about three hours of wait time. Not to bad compared to other newly launched games, but still bad. Other then that thier has not been any problem since then with my game play.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    A few hours?  I was lucky to get in early afternoon (after spamming through the 37 error for over one and half hour) and kept myself logged in during dinner.

    My gf wasn't able to get in at all the whole day yesterday due to errors 37 and 75! She still hasn't been able to get in!

    So please!  A few hours my ass!

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Warren, MEPosts: 3,996Member
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

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  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    Pretty much said what I was thinking here, I got the same feeling. Though don't try and counter any thing he or those like him say, you'll be turned into a flaming pile of ash.

    No one wants to listen or cares to understand anything about how things work in the real world and diablo 3's virtual one.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Warren, MEPosts: 3,996Member
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

    Did you read the 3/4ths of the article where he explains that the game is great fun? The servers have had issues and I would expect no decent game reporter to ignore that. Mike was just reporting the facts about server outages. It's only the first two paragraphs of an otherwise glowing review. Get a grip please.

     

    Bren

     
     

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  • Paul1284Paul1284 VajdaPosts: 3Member

    The writing was of poor quality, especially the ending which was cheesy. They clearly used their WoW quest writers to write the storyline which they should not have done for a game storyline.

    It has a very annoying "always online" DRM. You are not allowed to play single player offline, so whenever blizzard's servers go down (every tuesday for maintenance and whenever they have problems) you get kicked off and cannot play. DRM that stops you playing a game you paid for that is not an MMO is certainly fair game in a game review, ignoring it would not be fair.

    Very little character customization, this should not be defined as an RPG of any kind. Stats are automatically given, you cannot choose where to put them and by level 60 you have all the skills in the game, so there is no decision making on your part to customize a character apart from what items to wear.

    The cinematic's graphical quality is excellent, but the poor writing hurts them abit. Especially the ending which was a big let down.

     
  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

    Did you read the 3/4ths of the article where he explains that the game is great fun? The servers have had issues and I would expect no decent game reporter to ignore that. Mike was just reporting the facts about server outages. It's only the first two paragraphs of an otherwise glowing review. Get a grip please.

     

    Bren

     
     

    Ok let me explain, I did read it but reviews that start negative and end negative usually overshadow the good if people even read the middle and most don't.

    There is also this whole idea of starting a review without a conclusion. So people will read a review during launch and get a sour taste, they are likely not be interested anymore if they were on the fence. Why come back to read the finished review if it starts off bad?

    I don't like this style of reviewing, you review the product and then after some months of settle you review it again if you think its needed.

  • BoreilBoreil Dallas, TXPosts: 448Member Uncommon

    Meh Diablo games have always been too small anyway, Sacred has always had a much better world, if diablo had a full open go where you want whe nyo uwant world, it would be spot on perfect.

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  • ShmackpappyShmackpappy Grand Island, NYPosts: 75Member
    Originally posted by Paragus1

    Originally posted by orbitxo

    was wondering when you guys would talk about  server issues. its sad- after a beta stress weekend, they would fall  worse than the weekend itself.

     

    Tell that to this guy...

    I have a feeling that guy doesn't have much more going on in his life than video games.

  • Paul1284Paul1284 VajdaPosts: 3Member

    Aori, this is supposed to be a review not an advertisement for your favourite game. You can't expect anyone other than a hack to leave out DRM issues that stop people from playing a game they paid for. This is not an MMO.

     

    "I don't like this style of reviewing"

     

    You don't like that it wasn't given an automatic 10/10

     

    I do hope that he chooses to review the storyline, the auctionhouse (which in my opinion removes much of the challenge from the game, not that normal had any to begin with, allowing you to buy items far better than your own for very little money, making things quite trivial), and the character customization.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Warren, MEPosts: 3,996Member
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Aori
    Originally posted by Brenelael
    Originally posted by Kost

    Jesus, you too Mike?

    A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

    Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

     

    You may want to go back and read past the first paragraph.

     

    Bren

    I personally read past the first paragraph and while it isn't nearly as blatant as the trolls, it echos them.

    Did you read the 3/4ths of the article where he explains that the game is great fun? The servers have had issues and I would expect no decent game reporter to ignore that. Mike was just reporting the facts about server outages. It's only the first two paragraphs of an otherwise glowing review. Get a grip please.

     

    Bren

     
     

    Ok let me explain, I did read it but reviews that start negative and end negative usually overshadow the good if people even read the middle and most don't.

    There is also this whole idea of starting a review without a conclusion. So people will read a review during launch and get a sour taste, they are likely not be interested anymore if they were on the fence. Why come back to read the finished review if it starts off bad?

    I don't like this style of reviewing, you review the product and then after some months of settle you review it again if you think its needed.

     

    Almost every online game has server issues at launch. WoW had horrendous server issues at launch and every review site slammed them for it... It really doomed that game to failure didn't it? If Mike had of ignored the launch server issues and only reported the positive there would be even more people on here slamming him for that. A review should include the entire player experience from the game install to the actual game play. I would expect no less.

     

    Bren

     

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