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Thoughts from a returner

slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

Decided to give VG another whirl this week and thought I would post my thoughts for any interested.

I am not a vet by any means, I played for a couple of months about 3 years ago.  I liked the game a lot at the time, but couldn't put up with the performance issues I was having.

My system is a 2.7 I5 overclocked to 3.66, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 470, running on win7 64 bit.  I have a little 60bg SSD that I installed VG on.

I have to say the game is running great on my setup.  No hitching so far and excellent frames running in 1920x1200 with AA and AS on.  Have settings fairly high but have shadows to low.

You still see the oddball graphical glitches, but the game is running smooth and it is beautiful.

VG has the best class selection of any MMO out there right now.  There are a ton of races and each one has their own starter area, which is something I really miss.

This game is the true spiritual successor to old time EQ1. 

Also, the game has the best crafting system I have seen.

Here is the bad.

Pop is low...which is a shame because there is so much group content.  Hopefully with f2p on the horizon, this won't be a problem down the road.

There are some weird graphical glitches I hope they iron out before f2p launch.

Anyway those are my thoughts.  Anyone thinking about giving it a go or dusting off their account, I encourage you to do so.  I dropped the 15 bucks for a month and am glad I did.

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  • TROLL_HARDTROLL_HARD Caucasian/WhitePosts: 312Member

    Just curious -- did you start on that starter island or did you go to one of the original starting areas?

     

     

  • pierthpierth San Antonio, TXPosts: 1,503Member

    I completely agree with you, OP. I originally tried the VG trial just to have some characters ready-made for the upcoming F2P conversion and started with a guildmate from previous games just to get a feel for it. I was so impressed by what this game has become that I subscribed as soon as I knew I'd be able to dedicate time to play and I usually only play freemium or F2P games because of how disappointed I am with the P2P market atm.

     

    Having adventuring, crafting, and diplomacy as their own paths without being hindered by not engaging in all three is fantastic. When my friend is on we duo and have a good time of it, otherwise I craft or do diplomacy solo. Finally another game that rewards players that wish to play as a control class, or a buffing/debuffing class rather than just tank/heals/dps! While there are some things that I'm disappointed with, like the awkward UI and very hit or miss ability to macro this is the only MMO currently released that's worth my money. I can only imagine how much better it will be with more players.

  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

    Just curious -- did you start on that starter island or did you go to one of the original starting areas?

     

    I made a trial account just to check out the performance, when that was looking good, I reupped my old account and made a toon in the original starting area.

    Actually fooled around and made several toons of different races and classes before I decided on Thestran Bard.

    Love the variety and feel of the different original starter areas.  Like I said, that is something I truly miss in a lot of modern mmos where every race starts at the same point.

     

     

     

  • I agree, very great game. Such an immense world need more players. When is F2P supposed to be coming?

  • punkrockpunkrock va, VAPosts: 1,777Member

    They say mid summer or the end of summer. I know they better hurry lol, but if i was them i would wait until the GW12 hype goes away and TSW. 

  • trouser03trouser03 San Diego, CAPosts: 30Member

    Just an FYI to he OP ... if the graphical glitches you're seeing are flickering trees/rocks, turn off Hardware Occulsion under the Performance tab, that will fix that problem. I've never noticed any peformance improvement having it on anyway.

  • DissolutionDissolution APO, NYPosts: 210Member

    Glad you are enjoying the game,

    I second the opinion that if you are considering playing it jump in with both feet, you will be impressed by this game.

    It still needs a little work, but the game is very playable now.

    The game is now also receiving weekly maintenance and the dev teamm has requested players to post all 1-50 content bugs for some content overhauls that will be coming with the F2P patches.

    The game is beginning to get the attention it deserves and anyone who likes the older template of MMO's (EQ1, DAoC) will enjoy this game immensely. I really wish I would have found this one sooner and not wasted so much time on these newer MMOs.

    I played d@mn near every MMO that has come out since EQ1 and I have to say that since EQ1, nothing has grabbed my attention as much as Vanguard except possibly release WoW.

    Do it.

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  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by trouser03

    Just an FYI to he OP ... if the graphical glitches you're seeing are flickering trees/rocks, turn off Hardware Occulsion under the Performance tab, that will fix that problem. I've never noticed any peformance improvement having it on anyway.

    Thanks for the tip, I will try that out. 

  • ariestearieste toronto, ONPosts: 3,308Member Common

    Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

    Just curious -- did you start on that starter island or did you go to one of the original starting areas?

     

     

    i played on launch and enjoyed the diplomacy / lore in the starting areas, i then did a trial a few years later when i was really bored, but saw that the individual areas were removed.  Maybe i mixed somethign up, do the invidiual starting areas still exist?

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  • DissolutionDissolution APO, NYPosts: 210Member

    The character startup areas still exist. You choose at character select if you would prefer to start at the Isle of Dawn or your original racial start area.

    There are benefits to starting at the Isle of Dawn, gear and in particular the Bracelet of Lucky Charms which gives bonuses to all spheres and is upgradeable every 10 levels. At 20 or 30 it begins giving you an added experience bonus as well.

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  • NuriyanNuriyan Akron, OHPosts: 3Member

    I've been considering returning. I've been wanting to try out an MMO but there really isn't any that I've checked into lately. I used to play WoW, GW, EQ2, and recently Rift (but I never got into it). I have a level 30'ish Rogue in this game but I'll probably end up resubbing tonight and starting a new character.

  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nuriyan

    I've been considering returning. I've been wanting to try out an MMO but there really isn't any that I've checked into lately. I used to play WoW, GW, EQ2, and recently Rift (but I never got into it). I have a level 30'ish Rogue in this game but I'll probably end up resubbing tonight and starting a new character.

    Welcome back, hope you have as much fun as I am.  Been fooling around for a week trying to find a class haha.  See you in game.

  • FangrimFangrim PrestonPosts: 589Member Common
    Originally posted by arieste
    Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

    Just curious -- did you start on that starter island or did you go to one of the original starting areas?

     

     

    i played on launch and enjoyed the diplomacy / lore in the starting areas, i then did a trial a few years later when i was really bored, but saw that the individual areas were removed.  Maybe i mixed somethign up, do the invidiual starting areas still exist?

    Yes they do,on my trial i used a dwarf on the island,when I subbed I made my way to Bordinar's Cleft and also did the noob quests there.

    Gnome Wankers two.After the events of 18/07/2015 i fucking hate anyone that has anything to do with skyforge
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  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock N/A, VAPosts: 593Member Uncommon

    Vanguard's issue in creating a free trial was that the game was huge at launch (file size) and the trial island was created so everyone could download quickly and get into the trial without having to have the entire game downloaded.

     

    It's great to get someone in quickly, but I still enjoy the original starting areas.

  • drakaenadrakaena Posts: 488Member Uncommon
    I tried for the second time to get into it. On paper it sounds like a game I would enjoy playing. I just have a hard time getting past the dated combat. It's like a step above Ryzom, but below WoW and Rift. After playing GW2 I cannot get past the gameplay. I'll forgive graphics but slow combat I cannot do. It was like playing WoW for the first time and trying to go back and play the legend of mir.
  • NuriyanNuriyan Akron, OHPosts: 3Member

    I've been back for a few days now and am really enjoying the game. The combat is fun, the world is really huge, and the community is pretty good. Sure, it's not really populated, but the game is still fun. The music is really good too. I'm still trying to decide which class to play - I currently have a Kojani Dread Knight which seems to be pretty fun. I've messed around with other classes like Bard, Rogue, and Monk, but didn't really enjoy them too much (especially the monk). If anyone wants to play, feel free to add me.

  • NuriyanNuriyan Akron, OHPosts: 3Member

    I've been playing now for a bit and I really enjoy the game. I ended up re-rolling a character and am playing a Kojani Disciple. I really enjoy the class because of heals and damage output. I am level 10 and questing in the Ra'Jin Stronghold and around Qa Riverbank. Really enjoying the game and hope to play with others on here.

  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

    I think I finally settled on playing a Druid after trying a ton of different classes.  Amazing how much content there is.  Glad to hear your positive experiences.

  • ArdwulfArdwulf Columbus, OHPosts: 281Member
    Originally posted by punkrock

    They say mid summer or the end of summer. I know they better hurry lol, but if i was them i would wait until the GW12 hype goes away and TSW. 

     

    They haven't been any more specific than "summer." My guess is late august, early september, but that's just my guess.

  • MahoningMahoning Beloit, OHPosts: 16Member

    After hearing the f2p news I also decided to return to Vanguard but it is still the same grind. Don't make the mistake from experiencing the first dozen of levels to judge the rest of the game. Diplo and crafting 45+, adventuring 51+ is just repetitive pointless grind, making you feel sorry ever to have started the game. As so many other Sony games it is taking the course to mediocrity because players whine around, so classes get nerfed, one by one which is a shame. Distinctive classes were a major strongpoint of that game. Many other choices done by SOE to this game are also questionable. Sometimes I really wonder where they get their input (imo it's GMs playing favourites with certain guilds). Mob animations are still sub par. You loot many items, which are from outdated quests, taken out of the game. The User interface has the habit to change on you all the time. You need to make actually in game macros trying to cope with bugs (groupcancelrollsession!). The Quest lines are far too long. Its hard to find a group with such a low population at all, then you find actually one: oh sorry, you are at step 8 but i am still at step 6 and you are ending up doing the same steps over and over? How likely is it that in a random group of 6 people all are one the same step of a 10 step quest? The game community consists of some elite players having maxed out all of their allowed 12 toons and I've met many who started a second account for that reason and are too happy to show their uberness to you. Once a great game, like eq1, eq2 going down the drain. Too little, too late. Come on Vanboys, bring it on.

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,614Member Uncommon

       Yes I will be coming back upon F2P also, the population should expand when that happens. I hope Sony is working on performance issues because right now the only way to have a smooth experience is by buying an ssd hd . The game is playable on a good system but the hitching comes from the hard drive.  Crafting, Diplomacy, Conbat all top notch, comon Sony get some love into this game!

  • Mhodges81Mhodges81 Fair oaks, CAPosts: 1Member
    Originally posted by Mahoning

    After hearing the f2p news I also decided to return to Vanguard but it is still the same grind. Don't make the mistake from experiencing the first dozen of levels to judge the rest of the game. Diplo and crafting 45+, adventuring 51+ is just repetitive pointless grind, making you feel sorry ever to have started the game. As so many other Sony games it is taking the course to mediocrity because players whine around, so classes get nerfed, one by one which is a shame. Distinctive classes were a major strongpoint of that game. Many other choices done by SOE to this game are also questionable. Sometimes I really wonder where they get their input (imo it's GMs playing favourites with certain guilds). Mob animations are still sub par. You loot many items, which are from outdated quests, taken out of the game. The User interface has the habit to change on you all the time. You need to make actually in game macros trying to cope with bugs (groupcancelrollsession!). The Quest lines are far too long. Its hard to find a group with such a low population at all, then you find actually one: oh sorry, you are at step 8 but i am still at step 6 and you are ending up doing the same steps over and over? How likely is it that in a random group of 6 people all are one the same step of a 10 step quest? The game community consists of some elite players having maxed out all of their allowed 12 toons and I've met many who started a second account for that reason and are too happy to show their uberness to you. Once a great game, like eq1, eq2 going down the drain. Too little, too late. Come on Vanboys, bring it on.

     

    I have been back maybe a month since release... And I find your jaded views on elite players completely wrong based on my personal experience. The best part about the game, right now, has to be its community. Never, in any game, have"elite" players been so helpful to me. A random 55, with a bunch of characters and raid gear, has spent hours this last 2weeks showing me the ropes and helping me quest. Everyone I run across seems to genuinely want me in game. Although I joined a guild this has been true for randoms I run across and talk to. The game is great, the community better.
  • laseritlaserit Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,952Member Uncommon

    I guess when it comes down to it, After playing pretty much every p2p MMO. Vanguard is the closest thing to the kind of MMO I've always yearned for. Guess thats why I keep coming back to it.

     

    I really hope SOE dosn't screw the f2p up with this game. It's really had a much crappier history than it has deserved.

    "If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  • punkrockpunkrock va, VAPosts: 1,777Member
    Aye could be, but that is ok. There messing with somethings know on the test server. Seems the testers and devs are working together.
  • AliceKayeAliceKaye Marietta, GAPosts: 838Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by punkrock
    Aye could be, but that is ok. There messing with somethings know on the test server. Seems the testers and devs are working together.

    Yeah. Everyone has been trying to give them very constructive critism without being too harsh about it. It seems the devs really do care for the game and want to make it a great place for F2P. They seem to be moderately listening to the testers, while still trying to get their own agenda's taken care of.

    I mean, truth-be-told, they obviously have the higher-ups telling them what they want to see in the game and how to get it done, but they do seem to be trying to work in the opinions of those who are taking the time to post. Silius has been replying a lot, same with Wigin.

    I really hope for the sake of Vanguard that they do it justice and do not dumb it down too awful much. What I hope the devs realize is that the difficulty of the game is one of the leading things that draws people to it. MMO's these days seem to hand out everything to you on a silver platter and it's a pain in the butt for those of us looking for any level of difficulty.

    I'm glad I resubbed. My goal is to start crafting a bunch to make bags and such so that the people who return this summer, can load up on things for a somewhat cheap price and start off on the right foot.

    I've always loved Vanguard. I really hope it brings back a fair amount of people with this F2P thing. I also hope they decide to nix Halgar altogether for now, bring the community back to just one server and add more as needed. Both servers appear to be US-based anyway, so it's not like EU players get a better ping on Halgar, at least from what I've heard.

    Anyhoo, just my two cents for now. :P

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