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F2P Closer than we think?



  • ScorchienScorchien Hatboro, PAPosts: 3,160Member Epic




                                                                        Just end it.......



  • gervaise1gervaise1 .Posts: 3,975Member Rare

    Originally posted by BrooksTech

    SWTOR still has the 2nd largest active sub base and EA says they would be profitable with 500k subs.  The game does not need to go f2p.

    It is interesting that EA didn't define a subscriber when they announced 1.3M ; how did they count those on 30 days free? Remember the 1.3M number was as at the end of April.

    Profitable at 500k? Not quite; the word was 'break even' and 'nothing to write home about at 1M' and 'would not have made the investment if they hadn't expected 1M'. And break even means on a day-to-day basis not repaying the investment. Think of it this way: you buy an apartment and rent it out; after cleaning bills, taxes and whatever you make £/$1,000 a month. Hurray you are profitable; your income exceeds your expenses. Now if only you didn't have to pay back the £/$100k loan you took out to buy the apartment in the first place ..... maybe in 20 years time allowing for the loan interest ....


    Could it go F2P; why not Clone Wars is F2P. However a posible (big) problem I see is that it might need the agreement with LucasArts to be renegotiated. If it is a case of EA paying LucasArts a bundle of cash each year for 2 or 3 years then it should be easy. If it is a more complicated profit/risk sharing agreement however - a minimum payment of X and then so much per sub up to 500k subs, so much up to 1M, so much over 1M  etc etc then you have 'interesting times' ahead. LucasArts will want its money - I agree with the above posters on that.


    As to it being 'to late' I tend to agree; I also believe it might be very hard. There is no 'reason' to stick around much after 50 so I think the unlocks might have to be the story lines and maybe the encounters.

  • FennrisFennris White Plains, NYPosts: 273Member Uncommon

    I think that SWTOR lost its chance at taking on Wow head-to-head.  I don't think any game company can do that - Wow has had billions in revenue and they've put a lot back into their game - but if anyone had a chance it would have been Bioware & Lucas.  But I don't see the doom & gloom either.  Not hitting up and keeping 5 million NA accounts like so many posters here feel was the only way to be considered a success does not really mean the game or the company are dead or doomed.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 3,506Member Rare

    I honestly would of had zero complaints if it was B2P and happily leveled at least 4 characters to the level cap to see the class stories.  Instead I quit without ever paying a sub and now look back at the game very poorly. 

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 3,506Member Rare

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Just look up my predictions that I made month before game launched ;)
    I think its to late even for F2P to save the game.
    It should have been B2P from the start up, to have any chance.


    These predictions of yours weren't really that good.  How many AAA MMOs release an expansion in the first year, let alone the first 6-9 months.


    Month 1-3 : 1 million subs.

    Month 3-6 : 300 thousand subs.

    (GW2, D3 launches)

    Month 6-9: Expansion launched , subs on slight rise

    Month 10-12 : F2P announced , subs on all time low

    1 year : SWTOR goes F2P

  • Oph8Oph8 whydoyouneedtoknow, CAPosts: 177Member

    It's pretty stupid to think SWTOR would go F2P at this stage. That's the last thing EA would do. EA will start shifting programers around to increase staff, trying to push more content to the game first. And offering more crap for players to stay in the game. Is the game dead? who knows, I keep hearing that Mythic put the whole game together. If managment at EA is smart they'd fire the idiots that headed up the project and get fresh new talent on the game.

    Fucking up a Star Wars game should be sacrilegious.

    "Everything is mine and your woman too"

  • neorandomneorandom bev hills, CAPosts: 1,681Member

    Originally posted by Dakeru

    Would be a step into the right direction, swallowing their pride and considering other models to make a profit.
    The game is 30€ on amazon.. should they come up with a b2p version then I would buy the game and play together with a rl friend on weekends.
    That was quite fun during their beta weekends - just not enough fun to justify a subscription.
    Also a subscription always puts a kind of pressure on you to go level your char and use the time you are paying for.
    B2p would turn this game into a nice casual weekend hobby.

    because 12$ a month, or 6 euros or whatever, is a huge montly investment right.

  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Posts: 792Member Uncommon


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