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TERA: Guild Wars 2 vs TERA

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  • heartlessheartless Brooklyn, NYPosts: 4,993Member

    Originally posted by Lazarus71

    Originally posted by bhima




    Originally posted by Unlight






    Originally posted by Fisud





    I think as any busyness, your personal opnion goes accordingly with what you "have"to say so you get that extra bonus by the end of the month... from what you guys said, you made seem that TERA is inferior to gw2 in any way other then combat... and since many ppl are already givin up on tera because they cant really get the combat system right, if anybody takes in consideration what you said here, they will all go for gw2... thats BS...





    I haven't plaid gw2, but most of the TERA comunity did, and thats a topic well discussed on zone chat... and most, not to say, like 80-90% of ppl really didn't thought all that of gw2, everyone is saying that its just over-hyped, didn't really met anyones expectations... and thats the word from the players... not from some so called "expert" that gets cash to say this or that...





    I like this site/comunity alot, so please, don't make me (and others) hate you to promote 1 mmo... sadly most ppl don't take their own conclusions, they just folow what the ppl they think are experts say... be fair, or you're just taking profit of this comunity...

    Here's a telling fact:  NO other game was being discussed in GW2's zone chat except for GW2.






     

    Unlight, if I could +1 you I would. This was so damn true. I just remember playing the BWE and not a single person talked about other games, just how awesome the game they were playing was.

     This is not a hard concept to figure out. Almost all other MMOs betas these days work on a pre-order(i.e. as little as $5) to get in or by grabbing keys from random sites and give aways. That equals a lot of lookie loos who are there just to try the game for the hell of it and a lot of people who are there just to be ass hats in the general chat. GW2 however requires a full commitment of pre-purchase, therefore the people you are playing with in the betas are mostly people who are truly there for GW2, simple concept realy.

    Except that ArenaNet gave out a whole crap load of beta keys at PAX East.

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  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by heartless

    Except that ArenaNet gave out a whole crap load of beta keys at PAX East.

    Very true, and those weren't even all of the keys given out. Quite a few sites had keys they gave away, many of the sponsored livestreams had at least a couple keys to give away. Plus they allowed in some of the people who applied for beta w/ out pre-purchasing as well.

    A lot of people seem to be forgetting that pre-purchasers weren't the only ones allowed in. They were just guarunteed access.

  • KeefecoKeefeco Clinton, MSPosts: 3Member

    And the moment you've all been waiting for... The announcement of the 2012 MMO Game of the Year...  Give a round of applause for...   DIABLO 3!!!!  You can argue that Diablo isn't a MMO, You can argue that GW2 is better, You can argue that Tera is better, You can argue that both of those games are equal, You can even argue that both of them are better than every other game ever made prior to both of them and that it's worth playing both titles... BUT... In the midst of your arguing remember this...  Arguing over the internet is like being a contestant in the Special Olympics... No mater who wins or loses... You're still a retard...

  • Lazarus71Lazarus71 Celina, OHPosts: 1,025Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by aesperus

    Originally posted by heartless

    Except that ArenaNet gave out a whole crap load of beta keys at PAX East.

    Very true, and those weren't even all of the keys given out. Quite a few sites had keys they gave away, many of the sponsored livestreams had at least a couple keys to give away. Plus they allowed in some of the people who applied for beta w/ out pre-purchasing as well.

    A lot of people seem to be forgetting that pre-purchasers weren't the only ones allowed in. They were just guarunteed access.

     I will stand by my statement that the people who played the beta were obviously more serious about cheking out the game and therefore were not acting the way I am speaking of. Let's be honest GW2 is looking like it's going to be an awesome MMO, but it has no magical power that keeps the types of people I'm talking about from acting like ass hats in general chat. It's not like they thought "Man I'm going to go in here and just act like a complete ass in the chat channel" then when they started playing thought " Wow this is so amazing, I will refrain from being a troll or jerk in the general chat!"

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  • Kingpin827Kingpin827 Houston, TXPosts: 1Member

    i played tera .. very breifly i played gw2 up to level 10 and then pvped. I had more fun playing gw2

    With tera after playing vindictus Dragon nest Fez and a ton of other games it didnt feel like anything new or special been theree done that 

    with gw2  i was for a lack of better words lost.. in a good way I had to learn and adapt to situations i had to go find things to do i was free 

    i havent played another game since gw2 BWE1 

    Ontop of that i cant buy tera .. blue hole studio stole the game and got caught and sued for stealing the game i just cant see myself giving the company money because its very foundation is that of a greedy theif thats my tipping point ... the owner of the company is a greedy theif if he stole froma   company with a legal team to create a game he'll be just as grimey with his player base.

  • OnigodOnigod Noord-HollandPosts: 688Member

    When i read this i kept on feeling this was already prde decided before having tried both games and shows that it does not come from real expierience of both games only.

    I could be wrong but that is how i read it, it is not because i like Tera more infact i prefer gw2 myself right now.  Tera on the other hand does many amazing things with the game not mentioned here.

  • AstelarAstelar BarcelonaPosts: 6Member

    Just mark me as "trolling" for an opinion. :(

    I think Guild wars 2 is much better than Tera. END

  • XiaokiXiaoki White Pigeon, MIPosts: 2,602Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Dawnbr3aker
    are you kidding me!?! Gw2 is a pve game?? its more like a PVP game with pve attached to it. LOL. GW has always been pvp base. MAN!
    If GW2 is such a PvP focused MMO then why is its PvP instanced only?


    A PvP focused MMO would have at least some form of world PvP.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member

    Originally posted by Xiaoki




    Originally posted by Dawnbr3aker

    are you kidding me!?! Gw2 is a pve game?? its more like a PVP game with pve attached to it. LOL. GW has always been pvp base. MAN!





    If GW2 is such a PvP focused MMO then why is its PvP instanced only?



    A PvP focused MMO would have at least some form of world PvP.

    some form of...

    nevermind.

    *sigh*

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow TurkuPosts: 1,187Member Uncommon

    GW2 should be trophied with the best first impression in an online game ever.

    But on the long run the game just doesn't have longetivity and that's where Tera comes ahead.

    Tera has really bad first impressions and you haven't seen anything before hitting 20-> after which it start getting better and better.

  • SoulOfRazielSoulOfRaziel Porto FerreiraPosts: 405Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by BadSpock

    Originally posted by Xiaoki






    Originally posted by Dawnbr3aker

    are you kidding me!?! Gw2 is a pve game?? its more like a PVP game with pve attached to it. LOL. GW has always been pvp base. MAN!





    If GW2 is such a PvP focused MMO then why is its PvP instanced only?



    A PvP focused MMO would have at least some form of world PvP.

    some form of...

    nevermind.

    *sigh*

    LOL GW2 WvWvW is a type of pvp that is so much better than what u call pvp focused MMO that only have a pvp server and thats it 

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  • xposeidonxposeidon Sandston, VAPosts: 384Member

    Originally posted by GoldenArrow

    GW2 should be trophied with the best first impression in an online game ever.

    But on the long run the game just doesn't have longetivity and that's where Tera comes ahead.

    Tera has really bad first impressions and you haven't seen anything before hitting 20-> after which it start getting better and better.

    I'm level 30 in Tera, I don't see myself playing this game for much longer... I want my money back :(

    Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  • VhalnVhaln Chicago, ILPosts: 3,159Member

    I don't think we're seeing a lot of Tera bashing, because there was never that much player-driven hype behind it.  Not that many disappointed people, just a niche that seems to be enjoying, it for the most part..  but come on.  People compare it to Aion, and yet in its first month, it's only doing marginally better than Aion's doing, years after launching.

     

    Personally, I just found it really dull.  Almost as bad as Perfect World and the like, except with AAA graphics and a huge but just as shallow gameworld.

     

    Bought it on a whim, but consider it a waste of money.  At lv.27, just can't bring myself to log in, anymore.  

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by xposeidon

    Originally posted by GoldenArrow

    GW2 should be trophied with the best first impression in an online game ever.

    But on the long run the game just doesn't have longetivity and that's where Tera comes ahead.

    Tera has really bad first impressions and you haven't seen anything before hitting 20-> after which it start getting better and better.

    I'm level 30 in Tera, I don't see myself playing this game for much longer... I want my money back :(

    yes please stop playing. So we dont have to read another whine thread  :)   We have had the unfortunate pleasure of chronicling your journey in Tera one complain thread after another on MMORPG.com. You bought a game you ALREADY did not like and bashed it on many threads. What did you expect?

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy louisville, COPosts: 2,053Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9EhvDAMjWc

  • heartlessheartless Brooklyn, NYPosts: 4,993Member

    Originally posted by GoldenArrow

    GW2 should be trophied with the best first impression in an online game ever.

    But on the long run the game just doesn't have longetivity and that's where Tera comes ahead.

    Tera has really bad first impressions and you haven't seen anything before hitting 20-> after which it start getting better and better.

    What would you know of GW2's logenvity when the highest content anyone has ever played is level 30? Besides, WvWvW offers much more longevity than... wait, what endgame does TERA has? 10v10 PvP and zerg guilds voting for their leaders?

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  • kcypher2000kcypher2000 california, CAPosts: 116Member

    Article seems biased, I don't see why they dragged SWTOR into this, oh yeah because its cool to hate on the game without support but if you dislike SWTOR you are going to dislike these games too because its more of the same.  They all follow the same formula and if you think the PQ style of GW2 is really different then you are just fooling yourself.  At the end of the day you are still grinding quests to get to max level.

    Oh and the story of GW2 cannot compare to SWTOR, its not even in the same league.  Best reason to get GW2 is that it has no sub so you can play it whenever you like. 

  • supbrosupbro melb, ILPosts: 327Member

    I mean Tera failed in it's own home country Korea, because of endgame content issues. I dont see it doing that well to a western audience. The game others nothing different than your existing standard MMO's.

    While Gw2 endgame starts at level 1. REAL dynamic events, that change the world. Mass balanced PvP. GW2 is a evolution of the MMO genre while Tera adds nothing to warrant me spending money on it.

     

    GW2 the future of MMO gaming

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Kansas City, MOPosts: 4,844Member

    Originally posted by kcypher2000

    Article seems biased, I don't see why they dragged SWTOR into this, oh yeah because its cool to hate on the game without support but if you dislike SWTOR you are going to dislike these games too because its more of the same.  They all follow the same formula and if you think the PQ style of GW2 is really different then you are just fooling yourself.  At the end of the day you are still grinding quests to get to max level.

    Oh and the story of GW2 cannot compare to SWTOR, its not even in the same league.  Best reason to get GW2 is that it has no sub so you can play it whenever you like. 

     

    And it doesn't FEEL like you're grinding quests.  Whatever you might think about the GW2 quest system, it doesn't  FEEL  like more of the same old same old.  And that goes a long way to convincing you that it's "different."  Perhaps you just haven't played it, perhaps you just don't agree and HAVE played it, but I think most people who played in the BWE and various press betas and whatnot, would agree with my statement that it just FEELS different.  Sometimes that's all you need.

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  • XiaokiXiaoki White Pigeon, MIPosts: 2,602Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by supbro
    I mean Tera failed in it's own home country Korea, because of endgame content issues. I dont see it doing that well to a western audience. The game others nothing different than your existing standard MMO's.
    While Gw2 endgame starts at level 1. REAL dynamic events, that change the world. Mass balanced PvP. GW2 is a evolution of the MMO genre while Tera adds nothing to warrant me spending money on it.
     

    Hyperbole thine name is supbro.


    I played GW2 up to level 20 and endgame definitely does NOT start at level 1 and the dynamic events definitely do NOT change the world.

  • MutamiMutami Hamersville, OHPosts: 20Member

    OK, so there is enough hate flying around so I'll do my best to stay positive here.  I've played both games,  got to 25 on Tera and 18 on GW2.  

    Tera is great for their action combat I like it a lot.  I have never taken as many screen shots in an MMO then I did while playing Tera.  I like the political system they are setting up even though I wasn't able to experience it, I like the concept if done right.  But thats it.  That is all I have to say for Tera.  It is a really good "cookie-cutter" MMORPG who wanted to play it safe minus the cross hairs.  Personally I am sick and tired of exclimation and question marks.  

    If you like the way MMORPGs have done things and just need a new skin then pick up Tera.  It really is good for that.  Honestly, I swear I am not being sarcastic or anything.  Tera really is a good MMORPG, if you like the way things are done.  

    Guild Wars 2 rebuild an MMORPG from ground up.  Yeah, its questing and killing and collecting stuff.  But there is more than that.  There are dynamic events, protecting towns, protecting children, getting in snowball fights and end game content at level one.  

    Now to make some points on some arguments that stuck out to me:

    "Pretty much 80% if not more of my time in both games thus far has been spent in combat."  This is very true but 95% of that combat is done doing a quest, unless your in PvP.   Questing is vital.  It is the basis of PvE.  

    Another point that stood out to me was that people think that Tera is going to out last GW2.   I believe there are a couple of things that contribute to a games longevity.  Community, quality, and Support.  Guild Wars is already a huge community most of which will transfer over to the new game.  Guild Wars 2 has an advantage in that regard.  I personally think that there quality and support are close to equal so far.  Although, I'm not sure if Tera has an official forum or not.

    I think they longevity potential are close to equal.  So the game that would win that is the game that will attrached the most players.  And personally, I got to go with GW2, just because there is little they played it safe on.  They are both good games and they both deserve attention.   But Guild Wars 2 will be more interesting to play because of the fresh ideas.   Tera didn't do one thing that hasn't been done before.   

    And a side note.  I like these threads.  Once you shift through the trolls it stands for a good discussion.  I enjoy it. 

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  • onehunerdperonehunerdper corpus christi, TXPosts: 837Member

    WHAT TO CHOOSE?????!!!!!!



     

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  • Rocky966Rocky966 AhlenPosts: 1Member

    If you are Tera fan you dont have to compare games like Tera and Gw2. The same is with Gw2 fans. Dont compare this games... Enjoy that Tera is released and Gw2 not. And wait for the release by Gw2 to compare it. It was just I beta weekend. Not enough to compare it with a released game like tera. For my part i dont give this post more attention. Its not really a threat for Gw2. All i saw in this days of betaweekend was new for me. Arena.net has done a well job. The things i read in your article are to partial. Please please... dont write ... vs ... article anymore and dont waste your time with decry games you played for a short time... if you played them.. Enjoy Gw2. I'll stay it.

  • IllyssiaIllyssia LondonPosts: 1,524Member

    I think when Bill starts going on about how he hasn't had that feeling for seven years (seven years ago is 2005 so guess which feeling he is going on about), then you have to question how objective he really is about games. I am playing GW2 as a secondary game, but I can see it has flaws and for example for people looking for end-game raiding in an mmo they will probably head to other games.

     

    GW2 vs Terra....

    In the west GW2 will be far the more popular game. But in the Korean PC bang time card gaming culture Terra will find its niche.

  • SoDeadSoDead osloPosts: 4Member

    if u like grinding Tera is for you, I played both of Tera and GW2 in beta and i can say that GW2 is a winner ........ 

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