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General: Five Dead MMOs with Potential

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  • Paradigm68Paradigm68 New York, NYPosts: 884Member Uncommon

    I still think one of the major mistakes they made with MxO at launch was going with the standard mechanic of clothing with bonuses. It seems like a silly thing, but in the context of the Matrix, it really killed the feel of the game to have people dressed up in yellow trenchcoats with purple aligator skin cowboy hats and other equally mismatched clothes just for the bonuses.

    In keeping with the way the Matrix is supposed to have worked they should have allowed almost the entire wardrobe to be available from level one, and made the bonuses pieces of code you attach to your clothes. And it would be the pieces of code that would be loot drops, quest rewards and level restricted.

     

  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Riverside, RIPosts: 3,266Member Uncommon
    I enjoyed the entire matrix trilogy. So much hate!

    They could have done so much more with MXO.

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  • GremrodGremrod Anaheim, CAPosts: 203Member Common

    I miss Spellborn... :(

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes ZabbarPosts: 2,651Member Uncommon

    I miss Spellborn too :/

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  • ariestearieste toronto, ONPosts: 3,308Member Common

     

    yeah RIP TR.  Still one of the most immersive MMOs i've played.  Perfect example of story/world well ntercorporated with what your character is actually doing at any given time.  Great combat system also - just enough FPS feel to be involved, but no actual twitch-targeting to make it unattaractive for MMO games.

     

    If it was still up, i would re-sub in a second.

     

    I don't really miss MxO.  I think the article is more in love with what MxO should have been than with what it actually was.

     

    I DO miss SWG.  Whether you consider it dying with NGE or when the lights finally went out last year, it was something incredible, done on a scale and mindset that hasn't been seen since.  I think many of the best things we're seeing in games today are due to the things that were first thought of and tried in SWG (the whole idea of GW2's dynamic events and quests is what SWG initially envisioned - just an example)


     


    Also.. last i checked Vanguard wasn't actually dead but rather is in the process of getting a second lease on life courtesy of an F2P model.  Not sure why people count it as a dead MMO.  

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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,517Member Uncommon

    top 5 easily to me

    5) Tabula Rasa

    4) SWG

    3) Earth and Beyond

    2) SHADOWBANE

    1) AC 2

    honorable mention to HORIZONS, while actually not dead it might as well be, best class based sandbox ever ultimate crafting

     

  • Xstatic912Xstatic912 New York, NYPosts: 365Member
    Abit off topic, but mmo are one of, if not the most risks a development studio can take.. No wonder these games that had potential got canned..

    One, you have to have GM, 2) good customer support, 3) try to make a game that pleases you the dev and appeal to a good amount of person to stay profitable..

    No wonder the genre seems more of the same with every release.. The risk involve trying to do something new far beats any other genre of gaming..

    Just my 2 cents..
  • BigHatLoganBigHatLogan Bellingham, WAPosts: 688Member

    Originally posted by astoria

    Tabula Rasa RIP. Lacking at launch admittedly, but less lacking than many other AAA titles that are still around. 




     

    Problem with Tabula Rasa was the lack of PVP.  Richard Garriott even said in an interview prior to its release that he hated PVP.  It turned a lot of people off for sure.  PVP players are a lot more foregiving about technical issues or lack of content.  PVE players tend to MMO hop since it is much easier to complete content than to build and release content. 

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  • AsamofAsamof La Canada, CAPosts: 738Member Uncommon

    The Agency seemed really interesting, especially the armor making your class bit (sounds like monster hunter)

    Unfortunately it had the SOE seal of death on it, so whether or not it would have been good on release, it would have died an excruciating death either way.

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Kansas City, MOPosts: 4,844Member

     

    I think I must have been the only person looking forward to The Agency.  I was pretty psyched for that game and definitely bummed out when it got canceled in production. :(

     

    I beta tested Spellborn and that was just a sad travesty that game getting dropped. Pitiful, really.

     

    I didn't have any kind of connection to the other games mentioned, though I always heard Tabula Rasa had some stuff going for it.

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,474Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Thourne

    Since we are including games that never made it to launch, I would have to put WISH at the top of any list I would make.

    I played wish.  Dragon Empires should be on  the top of the list.

  • apocolusterapocoluster newport news, VAPosts: 1,321Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by AZdeadhead

    Auto Assault; coulda been outstanding.

    OMG so true...No game (to me) was ever more carthartic( lol i know I mispelled it..but seems appropriate)  then Auto Assult.  To this day I still have to fight the urge to mount blades on my Jeep and drive through a shopping mall.. *evil grin*

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  • MrBum21MrBum21 lost, OHPosts: 378Member Uncommon

    Lets see, my list

    1. Charr The Grimm Fate: sure it was vaporware, but had some great ideas, and a good reason why you keep coming back to life.

    2. Dragon Empires:  the game was designed from the ground up as an open world pvp

    3. UO2:  would have loved to see an updated version of the pre 2000 UO

    4. UO:  lets face, for those who played in the begining the game is dead

    5:  hmm guess my list is short.

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  • MathizsiasMathizsias Den HaagPosts: 16Member

    Any remember Imperator? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pd3_CWezTc

     

    When Mythic still had great potential :(

  • MrBum21MrBum21 lost, OHPosts: 378Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by waynejr2

    Originally posted by Thourne

    Since we are including games that never made it to launch, I would have to put WISH at the top of any list I would make.

    I played wish.  Dragon Empires should be on  the top of the list.


     

     oh yeah, forgot about Wish.  The game wasn't perfect, but never made it out of beta.  Could have been good.

     

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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,517Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by korr

    Lets see, my list

    1. Charr The Grimm Fate: sure it was vaporware, but had some great ideas, and a good reason why you keep coming back to life.

    2. Dragon Empires:  the game was designed from the ground up as an open world pvp

    3. UO2:  would have loved to see an updated version of the pre 2000 UO

    4. UO:  lets face, for those who played in the begining the game is dead

    5:  hmm guess my list is short.

    http://rpgvaultarchive.ign.com/features/interviews/charr.shtml

    Charr interview, man a lot of stuff from this interview was way ahead of the time.  Good read though if you are bored, funny the Developer talks about not being able to wait to play Horizons

     

  • urdrielurdriel granadaPosts: 31Member Uncommon

    Spellborn was a good game R.I.P.

  • UnlightUnlight Ottawa, ONPosts: 2,540Member

    Tabula Rasa is the only game on that list that I'd like to see resuscitated and given an overhaul.  The others were never even on my radar.

  • ZekiahZekiah Aurora, COPosts: 2,499Member

    1) SWG pre-cu

    2) Shadowbane

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  • johnnyblancojohnnyblanco Sacramento, CAPosts: 11Member

    Auto Assault. Nuff said.

  • BadaboomBadaboom Moose Jaw, SKPosts: 2,380Member

    Darkfall, Xyson and Vanguard would have been on my list.

  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorPosts: 2,690Member

    Asheron's call 2 is my choice was a very good mmo with beautifull graphics for a game from 2002 you dont believe your eyes how game looks on todays PC.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXPosts: 7,277Member Uncommon

    I think this is the first list MMORPG has done where I agree with every pick...  

     

    The matrix was so poorly executed in the beginning, yet the world was done very well, and the live events were some of the best I've ever seen in a game, even if it was a famous NPC just hanging around most of the time.

     

    Spellborn just didn't live up to the expectations, and really tried hard in the combat department.  The art direction was outstanding in my opinion.

     

    The Agency could have been the modern day spy thriller MMO we were looking forward to... touted to have interesting combat and launching onthe heels of  what was supposed to be a successful DCUO launch.. it could have been a very interesting game.

     

    Dominus died before it could really live.  I played the early betas and enjoyed it... they had some amazing platforming you had to do with jetpacks that I haven't seen in an MMO before that made the game truly outstanding.  The premise was also pretty great.. but unfortunately they couldn't keep going.

     

    Lastly,  Tabula Rasa was a game that was well before its time.  An interesting wonky aim based combat,  with unlockables littered around, and a very immersive war torn planet... not to mention  an event system akin to what RIFT and GW2 are now putting into play,  and at the time, nobody even took the time to notice.   This game should still be running... it was completely playable on launch and the combat was fast and fun.

     

    Good job Mike.

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  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Fresno, CAPosts: 2,414Member

    Should just add SW:ToR and The Elder Scrolls Online to the list now to save time.

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  • DredphyreDredphyre Los Angeles, CAPosts: 601Member

    Can't believe Earth and Beyond isn't on this list!  What irks me most about E&B's cancellation is that reports claim it was a profitable MMO, but for EA it wasn't profitable enough. So EA pulled the plug.

     

    /mad

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