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What i'm looking for is something that has the option to pvp but it isn't required so don't list any games with open pvp No kiddie games. I would prefer a free to play but depending what I think of it, I might try pay to play. I only want a game that will hold me over until vanguard goes free to play then I will be playing that maybe. I'm willing to try any new games people suggest that I might like. A game that is balanced would be nice not to much quests but not to much grinding, would like a little bit of both