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Guild Wars 2: Dunking on Nooblords in Tyria

MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community ManagerQueens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon

We spent some time doing PvP during the recent Guild Wars 2 beta weekend event and today we're sharing our report on the experience.

When I first started playing MMOs, I was a full-blown roleplayer, with no real interest in PvP. However, over time I really began to warm up to the idea of besting other players in combat instead of the typically boring PvE AI. Unfortunately, my search for truly fun PvP has been a frustrating one over the years, that is until I played Guild Wars 2 last weekend.

Read more of Michael Bitton's Guild Wars 2: Dunking on Nooblords in Tyria.


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Michael "MikeB" Bitton
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  • cutter666cutter666 hullPosts: 20Member
    WvWvW was awesome.
  • cyress8cyress8 Croatia, VTPosts: 832Member

    Originally posted by cutter666

    WvWvW was awesome.

     

    Fuck Yea!

    BOOYAKA!

  • VeshiVeshi portlandPosts: 32Member
    In most mmo's i hardly ever PvP, just never interested me. When i saw WvW on youtube i was interested. I then thought id try it at lvl 3 on the BWE just to try it out, 9 HOURS later i was like WTF i just PvPed for 9 hours, i went in for more.....

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  • someforumguysomeforumguy HomePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Veshi

    In most mmo's i hardly ever PvP, just never interested me. When i saw WvW on youtube i was interested. I then thought id try it at lvl 3 on the BWE just to try it out, 9 HOURS later i was like WTF i just PvPed for 9 hours, i went in for more.....

     

    Haha, that is awesome :)

    Nice video btw, OP.

  • Draith77Draith77 Wilkesboro, NCPosts: 14Member
    Awesome !!!  :D
  • orbitxoorbitxo fort lauderdale, FLPosts: 1,408Member Uncommon

    nice write up. My experience in the WvW pvp was amazing, jump to instant lvl80- started to play around in mists area getting familiar with new abilities.

    then enterd the pvp arena. and  i was amazed-no lag, the detail at what you can climb and do in combat in areas felt like warhammer online terrain.

    felt great and fresh!- there was so much to cover on that weekend- i can see myself inbeded in this game at its released =easy!

    I didnt really have any issue no other than typical Beta issues that a hotfix couldnt handle.

    Anet/GW2 has thought this out so well.



























     

































     














































     






















     










     



  • galdosgaldos Miami, FLPosts: 18Member
    When is the next beta weekend? gota start cancelling any apointments. 
  • NatarayaNataraya IbizaPosts: 78Member

    Liked when talked about WvW, if zerg battles looked like real fights just imagine when ppl start to master their characters and set up tactics.

    If Beta was fun just imagine...

    Kudos to GW2

  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon

    Originally posted by someforumguy



    Originally posted by Veshi



    In most mmo's i hardly ever PvP, just never interested me. When i saw WvW on youtube i was interested. I then thought id try it at lvl 3 on the BWE just to try it out, 9 HOURS later i was like WTF i just PvPed for 9 hours, i went in for more.....





     

    Haha, that is awesome :)

    Nice video btw, OP.




     

    Video wasn't mine, just to be  clear. Just a video off YouTube I thought fit well. :)

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon

    I hadn't pondered the fact that zerg battles that I encountered in wvw weren't like other zerg battles in other MMOs. Like Mike states, never  really had a stare off with ranged poking at each other(in the case of Aion a tank pulling a poor soul over to the mob). For some reason, I think the fact that health in GW2 is a lot more than usual, people just go in and fight. And it usually ends up in small skirmishes rather than full on mob fight.

    Arena based pvp is going to be epic! I had a blast with it and got better as the matches passed. It was fun to learn more and more about other rpofessions during pvp and I expect a lot of strategy when it comes to capturing points.

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  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    I hadn't pondered the fact that zerg battles that I encountered in wvw weren't like other zerg battles in other MMOs. Like Mike states, never  really had a stare off with ranged poking at each other(in the case of Aion a tank pulling a poor soul over to the mob). For some reason, I think the fact that health in GW2 is a lot more than usual, people just go in and fight. And it usually ends up in small skirmishes rather than full on mob fight.

    Arena based pvp is going to be epic! I had a blast with it and got better as the matches passed. It was fun to learn more and more about other rpofessions during pvp and I expect a lot of strategy when it comes to capturing points.


     

    The video embedded in the article kind of perfectly illustrates this phenomenon, too. It was one of the more refreshing things I experienced. Just..fights...everywhere! It felt like being part of a Braveheart movie during the scenes after the main armies clash. The camera cuts to all these smaller battles between the masses of soldiers within the furball. It's what large-scale battles should be and I'm really itching to get back in!

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • RoyalPhunkRoyalPhunk Vancouver, BCPosts: 174Member
    It was very fun, the most fun PVP experience I have had since EvE. Which is a big complement. I think they should make siege gear more expensive ( to buy the blueprints). However world vs world kept me glued to my seat the entire weekend I at one point debated going out to eat but ordered in instead (we had just gotten center big keep and there was no way I was leaving it)

     

  • Size-TwelveSize-Twelve Lansing, MIPosts: 494Member

    I think my most genuine complaint is there is SO MUCH TO DO IN THIS DAMN GAME!  ; P

    I spent all of my weekend basically addicted to sPvP. I never even got to try WvW and my highest character was level 7. How am I supposed to maintain some semblence of a life with all of these options! Curse you Anet!



     

  • katriellkatriell UTC-8Posts: 989Member Uncommon
    A "full-blown" roleplayer embraces PvP.  A roleplayer who does not like PvP is an incomplete roleplayer.

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    In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on August 13, 2008.

  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon

    Originally posted by katriell

    A "full-blown" roleplayer embraces PvP.  A roleplayer who does not like PvP is an incomplete roleplayer.

     

    I completely agree. :P

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • MavekMavek Voorhees, NJPosts: 138Member

    Originally posted by Veshi

    In most mmo's i hardly ever PvP, just never interested me. When i saw WvW on youtube i was interested. I then thought id try it at lvl 3 on the BWE just to try it out, 9 HOURS later i was like WTF i just PvPed for 9 hours, i went in for more.....

     

    Haha I'm just like you.  I didn't try pvp until the last 6 hours of the beta and stayed in WvW for the whole time.  It was exhilerating.  I was so upset when there was only an hour left I was thinking "how the hell did time pass by so quickly".  While watching the video is was funny to notice how low of health the ranger had and the same for the ele in the image.  It was awesome playing my necro and having 28k health when boosted to 80 in WvW.  I never felt so powerful as a caster before.  I love this shit.

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon

    Very nice write up MikeB. Wish I could've played sunday to do some WvW w/ you guys. You missed some epic battles on saturday, though!

    I definitely agree w/ what you said about zergs, and I don't think enough people realize this. In combat I was constantly switching between ranged & melee. Ranged seemed to do better in stand-off situations where siege equipment was involved, whereas melee tend to do much better in skirmishes, or leading the charge. Most of the fights I'd switch to melee w/ a warhorn and just rush the enemy, and my team would follow. What nearly always happened was the enemy would break up into smaller groups, and we'd either do the same, or just flat out destroy them. If I found myself taking too much damage; a few traps, a heal & an evade and I was back to safety. Definitely really fun times, and I can't wait to do some more WvW action.

    My only real gripes with it (aside from chat, and the lack of large war-parties), were that it didn't seem to do much to balance out server populations. Our server was packed, as was one of our enemies. Poor blue had like 3-4 squads of people max and just got squandered.

  • KonfessKonfess Dallas, TXPosts: 956Member Uncommon

    It has been a theme of mine for years now.  And I am grateful for your honesty in admitting it.  What do MMORPG ( WoW ) haters want in their MMORPGs?  More FPS mechanics.  DAoC had /stick, /follow and /face plus skill rotations, this and Rv3 is what made DAoC's PvP.

    GW2's PvP is for the Dodgers.  When only Dodgers PvP, the fun of PvP will evaporate.  Dodge will either be nerfed or eliminated from the game.  Enjoy it while it lasts.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    I really love the PvP in this game, it actually makes me want to do it instead of just stick to PvE.  I knew it before I even played, ANet is onto something.
  • DerpybirdDerpybird Boston, MAPosts: 991Member

    Originally posted by Konfess

    It has been a theme of mine for years now.  And I am grateful for your honesty in admitting it.  What do MMORPG ( WoW ) haters want in their MMORPGs?  More FPS mechanics.  DAoC had /stick, /follow and /face plus skill rotations, this and Rv3 is what made DAoC's PvP.

    GW2's PvP is for the Dodgers.  When only Dodgers PvP, the fun of PvP will evaporate.  Dodge will either be nerfed or eliminated from the game.  Enjoy it while it lasts.

    Dodge is a limited use resource that charges over time. It has to be used situationally.

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • FrostillicusFrostillicus M, QCPosts: 16Member

    "but I do have a ton of experience with Mythic’s not-as-well received followup, Warhammer Online. I didn’t spend as much time with WvW as I’d have liked to during the beta event, but it’s pretty easy to tell that ArenaNet is definitely on the right track when compared to my experiences in WAR."

    This article is a bit of a fanboy rant really.

    I played in the beta weekend, I like the game and am happy I pre-purchased, but as a WAR player, it was a bit of a let down (and I WvW'd all three days for a total of 10+ hours).  Zerg on Zerg action was very present and felt identical to WAR Zerg on Zerg.  Perhaps your definition of Zerg is different than mine, I would say it has to be 20 players per side at least.  Melee DPS were getting focus fired like crazy (I was playing Engineer, I was the one doing the blowing up).  I know the fanboi brigade will pipe in here with "well everyone can do ranged stupid!" but if you try out lots of classes like I did, it's clear that some are much much better ranged/AOE characters than others.  The other flame I'm sure to get is "well don't fight in the Zerg then, go off and do other things stupid".  I get it and I did that, just like I did it in WAR. I'm only writing this because when I see the author write "I played WAR, and I didn't like it because of Zerg on Zerg, but in GW2 even Zerg on Zerg is awesome!", well, I won't go far as to call BS, but there's definitely some rose tinted glasses going on here.

    The structured PVP maps were decent, but no better than WAR, plus from what I can tell, the only game mode is Conquest, where WAR had more variations (CTF and "hold the artifact" at least).

    Yes there are many things GW2 does great, and I know it will be a better game than WAR, but that's only because I also like PVE.  I was hoping for a "better than WAR" pvp experience, and what I got was about the same, minor improvements at best from a pure gameplay perspective.  My biggest complaint with WAR was server imbalance, it was always 1 side having way more people than the other, and this seems like it won't be a problem in GW2, so that's great.

    This post is really for WAR vets purely intrested if PVP who are wondering if this game will be for them.  If you were happy with WAR and want a slightly better version, this should do the trick.  If you got bored of WAR, I'm not sure you won't quickly get bored of GW2.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member



    Originally posted by Frostillicus

    "but I do have a ton of experience with Mythic’s not-as-well received followup, Warhammer Online. I didn’t spend as much time with WvW as I’d have liked to during the beta event, but it’s pretty easy to tell that ArenaNet is definitely on the right track when compared to my experiences in WAR."





    This article is a bit of a fanboy rant really.





    I played in the beta weekend, I like the game and am happy I pre-purchased, but as a WAR player, it was a bit of a let down (and I WvW'd all three days for a total of 10+ hours).  Zerg on Zerg action was very present and felt identical to WAR Zerg on Zerg.  Perhaps your definition of Zerg is different than mine, I would say it has to be 20 players per side at least.  Melee DPS were getting focus fired like crazy (I was playing Engineer, I was the one doing the blowing up).  I know the fanboi brigade will pipe in here with "well everyone can do ranged stupid!" but if you try out lots of classes like I did, it's clear that some are much much better ranged/AOE characters than others.  The other flame I'm sure to get is "well don't fight in the Zerg then, go off and do other things stupid".  I get it and I did that, just like I did it in WAR. I'm only writing this because when I see the author write "I played WAR, and I didn't like it because of Zerg on Zerg, but in GW2 even Zerg on Zerg is awesome!", well, I won't go far as to call BS, but there's definitely some rose tinted glasses going on here.





    The structured PVP maps were decent, but no better than WAR, plus from what I can tell, the only game mode is Conquest, where WAR had more variations (CTF and "hold the artifact" at least).





    Yes there are many things GW2 does great, and I know it will be a better game than WAR, but that's only because I also like PVE.  I was hoping for a "better than WAR" pvp experience, and what I got was about the same, minor improvements at best from a pure gameplay perspective.  My biggest complaint with WAR was server imbalance, it was always 1 side having way more people than the other, and this seems like it won't be a problem in GW2, so that's great.





    This post is really for WAR vets purely intrested if PVP who are wondering if this game will be for them.  If you were happy with WAR and want a slightly better version, this should do the trick.  If you got bored of WAR, I'm not sure you won't quickly get bored of GW2.










     

    I don't really care about your post or your feelings on GW2 because most of us love it feel it was done right and NOT once did I feel like I was playing WAR. The zerg on zerg felt like I was on a real battleground and no mmo has ever given me that feeling ever till GW2.

    Now that has been said the real reason I wanted to post. Fanboy so sick of this Fanboys shit. No one can be a fan of anything anymore. My god I really like this game, Oh now your a fanboy.

    All I see is you being a war fanboy. See lame just lame. I love GW2 and can careless about war does it make me a fanboy nope just tells you I really like the game. So in the end your just a fan hater and thats it, don't let me know you like a game, movies or a really nice car because I'll call you a fanboy for no reason except that you like something I don't.

    So to all the so called GW2 fanboys keep it rocking and lets ignore the FAN-HATERs.



     

  • brett7018brett7018 Jacksonville, FLPosts: 182Member Uncommon

    Totally agree that they are on the right track.  Was the most fun ive had since DAoC days, and they are the most memorable I have ever had in any MMO!

    Ready for the release and the new races to be playable for next beta!

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  • orbitxoorbitxo fort lauderdale, FLPosts: 1,408Member Uncommon
    nice post- I myself who started with eveonline- went to wow- then war- back to wow- now back at war and woh maintaining a huge fan of WAR.....GW2 pvp beta  felt amazing!!!! ill be calling GW2 WvW my home for while!!!!




     




     

  • BoardwalkerBoardwalker Austin, TXPosts: 384Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by bestever



    I don't really care about your post or your feelings on GW2 because most of us love it feel it was done right and NOT once did I feel like I was playing WAR. The zerg on zerg felt like I was on a real battleground and no mmo has ever given me that feeling ever till GW2...


     

    I thought the post by Frostillicus was excellent. For veterans of pvp in many games (including WAR), his thoughts were spot on and was the kind of report I was looking for. Except for his use of the word "fanboy", I don't there was anything he said that was offensive, or should cause someone to become defensive. And you calling him a "WAR fanboy" is ironic, intentional or not.

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