If the structured 5vs5 pvp ends up being suitable for E-Sports I know I'll be dedicating atleast 20-30 hours or more a week just on that. Let alone the hours upon hours I'll be directing battles with my guild in W v W. spare time between those battles will be spent hosting guild events, mini game competitions, personal story lines, Huge epic DE!! let alone all the dungeons..
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
Here is how to spend 1000 hours in the game, just trying everything out.
Now shut up with this "what to do at endgame question
It jumps up all the time . The question of whats the endgame, comming from another new player attrackted to GW2 , not knowing or seeing the virtues in GW1, and conditioned to the grinding progression threadmill.
The player asking most likely think he would powerlevel through all the low levels to get to max level as fast as possible just as he always do.Getting to max level is supposed to take 120 hours, but giving him the benefit of avoiding sidetracking and fun , lets say it takes 100 hours. Blasting through 8 zones and avoiding the rest
Here is what to do then.
Powerlevel to max lvl throuhg 8 zones, 100 hours
discovering Scaling upens 17+ skipped zones to also blast through 200 hours
30+ minigames (just trying them a few times and find 1 you like) 50 hours
dungeouns in exploreple mode, 24 rutes 75 hours
hidden puzzles 50 hours
Gaining elusive skillpoints, completing zones 50 hours
festivals during the year 50 hours
Guild activities 50 hours
crafting , custumes and equpment and consumebles 50 hours
playing the AH 50 hours
Elite DE missed in the rushing through 50 hours
achivements 50 hours
hanging out in ambient surroundings, strolling cities 25 hours
making and changing and testing builds (traits and weapons) 25 hours
Organised PvP (tournaments) and Hot join PvP 50 hours
World Wars (WvsW) 50 hours
Grind 25 hours
Personal story 50 hours
friends personal story 25 hours
What to do in the future
Watching PvP matches (world champ series, your friends and so) 25 hours
enjoy the player housing 25 hours
play with expansions 200+ hours each
play an alt 100+ hours
Note. We can and will in this thread offcause discuss how precise these numbers are, but the idea behind it is to estimate the time just to try the content out, use the possibillities on a regualar weekly basic during a years play
After playing the BWE, I can truly say that most of my hours are way to low. But i still think they fit in a broader picture , that simply says even if your actual numbers vary alot , there will be plenty to do in this game.
Did any of you get a BWE experience where you realised that some areas you could spend way more time in ?
I am a powergamer, sad I know. I must complete every quest, unlock every skill point, explore everything, sigh. There goes work and gym time! GW2 here I come.
Every race has its own story and zones. Also, there's different paths within one's story. Roll 5 characters and there you have it 1000+ hours.
Now, that's funny. When people talked about SW TOR's unique story lines the GW2 fanboys swooped in like vultures saying "pff.. boring".
Also, you must be wrong about each race having it's dedicated zones. Unless you mean dedicated quest areas like TOR. Which is another aspect mocked by the aforementioned fans. Isn't irony a bitch or what.
Every race has its own story and zones. Also, there's different paths within one's story. Roll 5 characters and there you have it 1000+ hours.
I heard similar claims from SWTOR people. I rolled two characters to experince personal story and wanted to poke my eyes out after that. And just the personal stories not any other quest in the zones.
true, but i think this is because the gameplay was crappy and boring in SWTOR.
and many many many people tried to warn the SWTOR people how bad it was BEFORE RELEASE. It isn't our fault you didn't listen.. or even watch vids since the vids of SWTOR told the truth as far back as closed beta.
I was unaware of the videos that you mentioned, I wished i saw them or atleast went into the personal stories more and PVP more. I didn't enjoy SWTOR. I did enjoy my stay at BWE of GW2, so i guess its a fair estimate for my playtime in Tyria.
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.
Every race has its own story and zones. Also, there's different paths within one's story. Roll 5 characters and there you have it 1000+ hours.
Now, that's funny. When people talked about SW TOR's unique story lines the GW2 fanboys swooped in like vultures saying "pff.. boring".
Also, you must be wrong about each race having it's dedicated zones. Unless you mean dedicated quest areas like TOR. Which is another aspect mocked by the aforementioned fans. Isn't irony a bitch or what.
Well not ALL GW2 fans did that, I know for a fact. I played SWTOR and I was a GW2 fan the entire time. The best part of SWTOR to me WAS the class quests or personal stories to use the term GW2 uses. I loved the stories. It's actually all that kept me coming back to the game until I finally got bored and quit. Same with the zones. I know at least THIS GW2 fan had never dogged SWTOR's class line of quests or zones. I enjoyed the game very much until....I just didn't enjoy it any more. The exact same thing I will do with GW2. I think GW2 will last longer for me, but that remains to be seen. I'm not a prophet.
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
My greatest fear for mankind is that you are actually not engaging in hyperbole with those numbers. Not to be a total Buzz-kill but please don't waste your life in persuit of virtual loot. With that amount of free time and focus could get you Degree if you took online courses.
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
My greatest fear for mankind is that you are actually not engaging in hyperbole with those numbers. Not to be a total Buzz-kill but please don't waste your life in persuit of virtual loot. With that amount of free time and focus could get you Degree if you took online courses.
yep i have fond memories of the GW1 message telling me to please take a break when i had been playing a couple of hours. the point of necroing my old thread was to get an impression if some peoples numbers had changed alot. But i don't see any point arguing why a no-subscribtion game should help players to NOT have a life- the hole point of all the anti grind that is part of ArenaNets philosofi, is to have a game that you don't win by not having a real life. 1000 hours in a year is an awfull lot, but thats what a good hobby can take, but not without costs.
Every race has its own story and zones. Also, there's different paths within one's story. Roll 5 characters and there you have it 1000+ hours.
I heard similar claims from SWTOR people. I rolled two characters to experince personal story and wanted to poke my eyes out after that. And just the personal stories not any other quest in the zones.
As long as when I roll into the WvWvW zone and find people actually fighting for something and not kill trading I can invest thousands of hours playing this game.
War zones do not cut it for me. Fish bowl pvp is just not my thing.
SWTOR missed the boat on that one, or rather made a Titanic.
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
My greatest fear for mankind is that you are actually not engaging in hyperbole with those numbers. Not to be a total Buzz-kill but please don't waste your life in persuit of virtual loot. With that amount of free time and focus could get you Degree if you took online courses.
yep i have fond memories of the GW1 message telling me to please take a break when i had been playing a couple of hours. the point of necroing my old thread was to get an impression if some peoples numbers had changed alot. But i don't see any point arguing why a no-subscribtion game should help players to NOT have a life- the hole point of all the anti grind that is part of ArenaNets philosofi, is to have a game that you don't win by not having a real life. 1000 hours in a year is an awfull lot, but thats what a good hobby can take, but not without costs.
lmao its funny how restricted some peoples minds are when it comes to gaming. Like nobody ever makes a living being a full time gamer.. That is un heard of!! GASP Consider Gaming as a way of income noooo not possible. Or that someone might have a good reason / excuse for gaming as much as they do.
Not like I need to prove myself to anyone or my reasoning behind being a full time gamer but being retired from a career working 70-80 hours a week having no life with my family and no form of entertainment at all, my life was my work which nearly killed me. My studies at college included culinary arts(yes I'm a chef), linguistics, study of foreign languages such as Mandarin, Spanish, and Thai just to name a couple(yes I'm multilingual). I also Traveled to south east asia to study culinary arts there as well. So Thank you very much for your concern but I think I haven't wasted my life, I think the life I had before I retired was, aside from my studies, a complete waste.
I now get to spend 24/7 with my wife and family doing something I truly love within my limitations. My retirement / disability has forced me into a position to enjoy what ever form of life I can and if its limited to what it is, what gives anyone the right to judge another person without knowing their circumstances let alone gives them the right to judge in the first place...
Just hope to god none of you ever experience having everything you worked so hard for in life ripped form you by an unexpected disability..
Simply put, my family and I are happier now then when I was able to work and are able to enjoy what ever we have left together doing something we can do together not me off at a job spending nearly most of my time away from my family, away from my friends doing something that just provided money.
Some of thbese are absolutely ridiculous. Hang out in cities for 25 hours? Spend 50 hours in the AH? 50 hours for unspecified "guild activities? UHHH no?
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
My greatest fear for mankind is that you are actually not engaging in hyperbole with those numbers. Not to be a total Buzz-kill but please don't waste your life in persuit of virtual loot. With that amount of free time and focus could get you Degree if you took online courses.
yep i have fond memories of the GW1 message telling me to please take a break when i had been playing a couple of hours. the point of necroing my old thread was to get an impression if some peoples numbers had changed alot. But i don't see any point arguing why a no-subscribtion game should help players to NOT have a life- the hole point of all the anti grind that is part of ArenaNets philosofi, is to have a game that you don't win by not having a real life. 1000 hours in a year is an awfull lot, but thats what a good hobby can take, but not without costs.
lmao its funny how restricted some peoples minds are when it comes to gaming. Like nobody ever makes a living being a full time gamer.. That is un heard of!! GASP Consider Gaming as a way of income noooo not possible. Or that someone might have a good reason / excuse for gaming as much as they do.
Not like I need to prove myself to anyone or my reasoning behind being a full time gamer but being retired from a career working 70-80 hours a week having no life with my family and no form of entertainment at all, my life was my work which nearly killed me. My studies at college included culinary arts(yes I'm a chef), linguistics, study of foreign languages such as Mandarin, Spanish, and Thai just to name a couple(yes I'm multilingual). I also Traveled to south east asia to study culinary arts there as well. So Thank you very much for your concern but I think I haven't wasted my life, I think the life I had before I retired was, aside from my studies, a complete waste.
I now get to spend 24/7 with my wife and family doing something I truly love within my limitations. My retirement / disability has forced me into a position to enjoy what ever form of life I can and if its limited to what it is, what gives anyone the right to judge another person without knowing their circumstances let alone gives them the right to judge in the first place...
Just hope to god none of you ever experience having everything you worked so hard for in life ripped form you by an unexpected disability..
Simply put, my family and I are happier now then when I was able to work and are able to enjoy what ever we have left together doing something we can do together not me off at a job spending nearly most of my time away from my family, away from my friends doing something that just provided money.
So ya go ahead judge me :P
judge you ? why should i ? you did a fine job telling why you are able to play full time. But does it change the point i come up with ? Why should we argue that a non subscribtion game really should help people NOT having a life. When the big quality is that you can be part of it without falling behind other players - and still manage to have life. I am well aware that there are plenty features in GW2 you could use a hell lot of time on. And i wish you good luck with that.
And i know people retired, with a pension that have a great life with alot hours of gaming each day , but i also know people dropping out of studies , loosing jobs and relationships, while gaming 10+ hours a day.
I see a point in arguing why GW2 had alot of going for people wanting a great hobby (this thread was a response to all the crying out of "whats the endgame - what to do at max lvl ? that we was flooded with weeeks ago"), but i don't feel like being called restricted because i see real problem for people actual being addicted to gaming and loosing out in real life while thats going on
lmao its funny how restricted some peoples minds are when it comes to gaming. Like nobody ever makes a living being a full time gamer.. That is un heard of!! GASP Consider Gaming as a way of income noooo not possible. Or that someone might have a good reason / excuse for gaming as much as they do.
Not like I need to prove myself to anyone or my reasoning behind being a full time gamer but being retired from a career working 70-80 hours a week having no life with my family and no form of entertainment at all, my life was my work which nearly killed me. My studies at college included culinary arts(yes I'm a chef), linguistics, study of foreign languages such as Mandarin, Spanish, and Thai just to name a couple(yes I'm multilingual). I also Traveled to south east asia to study culinary arts there as well. So Thank you very much for your concern but I think I haven't wasted my life, I think the life I had before I retired was, aside from my studies, a complete waste.
I now get to spend 24/7 with my wife and family doing something I truly love within my limitations. My retirement / disability has forced me into a position to enjoy what ever form of life I can and if its limited to what it is, what gives anyone the right to judge another person without knowing their circumstances let alone gives them the right to judge in the first place...
Just hope to god none of you ever experience having everything you worked so hard for in life ripped form you by an unexpected disability..
Simply put, my family and I are happier now then when I was able to work and are able to enjoy what ever we have left together doing something we can do together not me off at a job spending nearly most of my time away from my family, away from my friends doing something that just provided money.
So ya go ahead judge me :P
Abosolutly nothing gives others the right to judge. I meant only to encourage moderation by pointing out what could have been accomplished (for real) with that time instead. The vast majority of MMO players likely would not have the same circumstances as you. A great deal are young and likely have other responsibilities that would keep them from playing that much (and 10-15 hours a day every day is an enormous amount of time). I did use the phrase "waste time" but its socially subjective in implication. It would heavily depend on circumstantial content anyway. I certianly don't consider time that I play with my son wasted.
You should have "judged my words" in the context of me having no personal context into your personal life. I made broad generalized statements because thats all I could do given the information. I said nothing that should have offended you, it simply didn't apply. I can't believe that you would advocate most people playing as much as you do.
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Time played 2 hours...was not my cup of tea.
I will play GW2 until I get bored...and hoping that will take a long, long time.
If the structured 5vs5 pvp ends up being suitable for E-Sports I know I'll be dedicating atleast 20-30 hours or more a week just on that. Let alone the hours upon hours I'll be directing battles with my guild in W v W. spare time between those battles will be spent hosting guild events, mini game competitions, personal story lines, Huge epic DE!! let alone all the dungeons..
I can easily see myself spending my 10-15 hours a day in a variety of different ways. This game will make being a full time gamer easy!!! You calculated 1k hours in a year. My core guild members will do 1k hours of game play easy within 3 months.
Can't wait to take Tyria by storm!!!
You forgot to list quitting your job, abandoning social life and moving back into your parents tool shack as mile stones for this project.
the GW2 PMO is not pleased!
After playing the BWE, I can truly say that most of my hours are way to low. But i still think they fit in a broader picture , that simply says even if your actual numbers vary alot , there will be plenty to do in this game.
Did any of you get a BWE experience where you realised that some areas you could spend way more time in ?
Heretics O.o
Lets hope the numbers are realistic
But I have a feeling that with all the side activities, GW2 has the power to hold its playerbase for a loong time
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
Log in and alt-tab to D3?
Oh, come on! It was right there. I had to.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
I am going to play a disgusting amount of WVWVW...I'm actually growing concerned about how the games launch may effect my overall health. XD
I think WvWvW is very healthy
Now, that's funny. When people talked about SW TOR's unique story lines the GW2 fanboys swooped in like vultures saying "pff.. boring".
Also, you must be wrong about each race having it's dedicated zones. Unless you mean dedicated quest areas like TOR. Which is another aspect mocked by the aforementioned fans. Isn't irony a bitch or what.
I was unaware of the videos that you mentioned, I wished i saw them or atleast went into the personal stories more and PVP more. I didn't enjoy SWTOR. I did enjoy my stay at BWE of GW2, so i guess its a fair estimate for my playtime in Tyria.
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.
Well not ALL GW2 fans did that, I know for a fact. I played SWTOR and I was a GW2 fan the entire time. The best part of SWTOR to me WAS the class quests or personal stories to use the term GW2 uses. I loved the stories. It's actually all that kept me coming back to the game until I finally got bored and quit. Same with the zones. I know at least THIS GW2 fan had never dogged SWTOR's class line of quests or zones. I enjoyed the game very much until....I just didn't enjoy it any more. The exact same thing I will do with GW2. I think GW2 will last longer for me, but that remains to be seen. I'm not a prophet.
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My greatest fear for mankind is that you are actually not engaging in hyperbole with those numbers. Not to be a total Buzz-kill but please don't waste your life in persuit of virtual loot. With that amount of free time and focus could get you Degree if you took online courses.
yep i have fond memories of the GW1 message telling me to please take a break when i had been playing a couple of hours. the point of necroing my old thread was to get an impression if some peoples numbers had changed alot. But i don't see any point arguing why a no-subscribtion game should help players to NOT have a life- the hole point of all the anti grind that is part of ArenaNets philosofi, is to have a game that you don't win by not having a real life. 1000 hours in a year is an awfull lot, but thats what a good hobby can take, but not without costs.
As long as when I roll into the WvWvW zone and find people actually fighting for something and not kill trading I can invest thousands of hours playing this game.
War zones do not cut it for me. Fish bowl pvp is just not my thing.
SWTOR missed the boat on that one, or rather made a Titanic.
You are not doing it right.
You are supposed to talk to people in the game.
They will have quests and stuff for you to do.
lmao its funny how restricted some peoples minds are when it comes to gaming. Like nobody ever makes a living being a full time gamer.. That is un heard of!! GASP Consider Gaming as a way of income noooo not possible. Or that someone might have a good reason / excuse for gaming as much as they do.
Not like I need to prove myself to anyone or my reasoning behind being a full time gamer but being retired from a career working 70-80 hours a week having no life with my family and no form of entertainment at all, my life was my work which nearly killed me. My studies at college included culinary arts(yes I'm a chef), linguistics, study of foreign languages such as Mandarin, Spanish, and Thai just to name a couple(yes I'm multilingual). I also Traveled to south east asia to study culinary arts there as well. So Thank you very much for your concern but I think I haven't wasted my life, I think the life I had before I retired was, aside from my studies, a complete waste.
I now get to spend 24/7 with my wife and family doing something I truly love within my limitations. My retirement / disability has forced me into a position to enjoy what ever form of life I can and if its limited to what it is, what gives anyone the right to judge another person without knowing their circumstances let alone gives them the right to judge in the first place...
Just hope to god none of you ever experience having everything you worked so hard for in life ripped form you by an unexpected disability..
Simply put, my family and I are happier now then when I was able to work and are able to enjoy what ever we have left together doing something we can do together not me off at a job spending nearly most of my time away from my family, away from my friends doing something that just provided money.
So ya go ahead judge me :P
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Some of thbese are absolutely ridiculous. Hang out in cities for 25 hours? Spend 50 hours in the AH? 50 hours for unspecified "guild activities? UHHH no?
You are really reaching here.
This sounds awesome, why don't make make more games llike this.
judge you ? why should i ? you did a fine job telling why you are able to play full time. But does it change the point i come up with ? Why should we argue that a non subscribtion game really should help people NOT having a life. When the big quality is that you can be part of it without falling behind other players - and still manage to have life. I am well aware that there are plenty features in GW2 you could use a hell lot of time on. And i wish you good luck with that.
And i know people retired, with a pension that have a great life with alot hours of gaming each day , but i also know people dropping out of studies , loosing jobs and relationships, while gaming 10+ hours a day.
I see a point in arguing why GW2 had alot of going for people wanting a great hobby (this thread was a response to all the crying out of "whats the endgame - what to do at max lvl ? that we was flooded with weeeks ago"), but i don't feel like being called restricted because i see real problem for people actual being addicted to gaming and loosing out in real life while thats going on
I actually ran into a Karma vendor who was selling T1-T3 gear. The T3 cost 65,000 Kr. or some other unfathomable value...
Abosolutly nothing gives others the right to judge. I meant only to encourage moderation by pointing out what could have been accomplished (for real) with that time instead. The vast majority of MMO players likely would not have the same circumstances as you. A great deal are young and likely have other responsibilities that would keep them from playing that much (and 10-15 hours a day every day is an enormous amount of time). I did use the phrase "waste time" but its socially subjective in implication. It would heavily depend on circumstantial content anyway. I certianly don't consider time that I play with my son wasted.
You should have "judged my words"
in the context of me having no personal context into your personal life. I made broad generalized statements because thats all I could do given the information. I said nothing that should have offended you, it simply didn't apply. I can't believe that you would advocate most people playing as much as you do.