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Censoring undone by Frogster

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  • Home15Home15 GentPosts: 203Member

    Its still a censor, blood splashes on screen are out.

    Pegi 12 still in effect, this rating is more for lego star wars.

    To protect children? kids around 14-16 are already watching porn on the internet.

    The problem is there to hellbent in keeping this pegi 12 rating, wich I realy dont understand why.

    Im afraid EU will have modification way more then the US in the times ahead, so in other words there is no garentee things will get sliced out as long this silly pegi 12 rating is in.

     

  • allgamesallgames SomewherePosts: 4Member

    Frogster have put their whole forums down for "maintenance" - sure...

    I've just send them a mail to cancel my CE digital pre-order!

    I wonder how many of us in EU will go, or already decided to play on the US version.

     

    And since En Masse seems to have their shit together I would like to say:

    Bye bye Frogster.., Hello En Masse!

  • SoandsosoSoandsoso Richmond Hill, ONPosts: 533Member

    All this fuss is about guys who want to look at digital panties of kids?

     

  • KehdarKehdar La SpeziaPosts: 440Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    All this fuss is about guys who want to look at digital panties of kids?

     

    No... at least read some posts before writing a reply... Not all of them, God forbid, just some.

  • Home15Home15 GentPosts: 203Member

    I find there statement kinda contradictive.

    *- it is part of our responsibility to protect our younger audiences from them

    *- Many of you have a long history with MMO games, and we are sure you are familiar with updates and changes.

     

    So 12 year olds have many long history with MMO games, lol!

    I didnt know i was 6 years old playing MMO's.

    But seriously, how many 12 year olds play MMO, nice way to punish a large comunity for a few kids that wont even be in the game, if hardly any.

    34 years old and counting, im getting old!

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member

    The culture clash happening here is just fascinating.

    Yep, I don't think Frogster is really ready to deal with this.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • wrightstufwrightstuf Carlsbad, CAPosts: 655Member Uncommon

    Why are people saying the blood splatter is gone?...they didnt say that

  • KehdarKehdar La SpeziaPosts: 440Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by wrightstuf

    Why are people saying the blood splatter is gone?...they didnt say that

    yes they did.

    From official Twitter:

    @TeraEurope Can you confirm that the ONLY censor in Tera EU is the on-screen blood? (The Elin censor I don't count) Thanks :)

    @therockdk Yes, that is the case, but like we said the slider for blood will return around mid of may, we need the patch from the devs first

    From official site:

    The European release version of the game will still have to be slightly different from the North American and Korean build: the only threat to our 12+ classification was the blood splattered on your screen when you are slaying certain monsters. This effect is slightly modified in the European version.

    If you are talking about the fact that till yesterday you could see the blood in game, is cause players who just updated the client from CBT didn't have the censured version yet, but at release everyone will have the same version of the game.

  • ThrennieThrennie LeedsPosts: 107Member

    Originally posted by wrightstuf

    Why are people saying the blood splatter is gone?...they didnt say that

    No, they didn't exactly say it would be gone, but they did say it would be modified for the european market to make the game compliant with the 12+ rating as can be seen below.

    -- pasted from the letter to the community --

    The European release version of the game will still have to be slightly different from the North American and Korean build: the only threat to our 12+ classification was the blood splattered on your screen when you are slaying certain monsters. This effect is slightly modified in the European version.

  • OnomicOnomic TønsbergPosts: 196Member

    Good that they undid this censor but i pulled back my pre order for now, i have very little confidence in Frogster and the pegi 12+ will just cause other problems down the line. This game was not made for kids, either Bluehole will need to develope future content with this in mind or they will need to do double development on some content, either way it is messy.

    Tera was a fun  game so might pick up the NA version in a while but for now ill wait and see.

  • Is because, as european myself, after this stupid and offensive statement, i'll never play Tera on Eu. Frogster is a fail and hypocrit company, the pegi 12+ was so absurd that i can't believe it.
    TERA is a mature game intended for a mature audience, instead Frogster with some retarded, illogical and offensive excuses censor the game to keep the 12+, and more censorship and patch delay will come in future to adapt to this rate, because in Korea all the future patches are intended for a mature and adult game and audience.

    If EME will open an east coast server on the Us i will buy the game and play there, otherwise i'll skip this game and go for GW2 and B&S for now.

    I really can't support a delusional company like Frogster. No i really can't. Hope they sink and fail fast so maybe EME will takeover the Europe version of the game and save the game.

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon

    " Yes, the appearance of the Elins has been changed in both northern American and European version of the game. Not to comply with a demand from any official board, but because those characters in particular could have attracted to the game a population of unsavoury users, and it is part of our responsibility to protect our younger audiences from them."

     

    Even Frogster knows the Elin are ridiculous....

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  • Originally posted by Himemiya
    For anyone worried about high latency to the NA servers check out Battleping.

    Already played all the beta in the Us, as an old FGT tester, in pve is ok BUT in pvp i feel the lag on some skills. Having 200+ ms vs 60+ ms is different. But not only this, there is the timezone issue, GMT -8 in central us, when i start to play americans are at work or sleep, when i go to sleep americans start to play, not to mention events.

    An East coast server is a good compromise, i have always 100+ ms ping there, also the GMT is -6, much better. I will purchase the game immediately if they open a East Coast server for us europeans that refuse to play with a failure company like Forgster and their ridiculous and offensive excuses to keep the 12+ pegi for gathering more money.

  • NBlitzNBlitz ZwollePosts: 1,904Member

    Originally posted by kdchan

     




    Originally posted by Himemiya

    For anyone worried about high latency to the NA servers check out Battleping.



     

    Already played all the beta in the Us, as an old FGT tester, in pve is ok BUT in pvp i feel the lag on some skills. Having 200+ ms vs 60+ ms is different. But not only this, there is the timezone issue, GMT -8 in central us, when i start to play americans are at work or sleep, when i go to sleep americans start to play, not to mention events.

    An East coast server is a good compromise, i have always 100+ ms ping there, also the GMT is -6, much better. I will purchase the game immediately if they open a East Coast server for us europeans that refuse to play with a failure company like Forgster and they shitty german laws and 12+ pegi to protect brainless kiddos.

    Want to guess what my lowest ping to the EU servers is? 20 ms...I'll never get that playing on the NA servers not to mention playing with the majority around the time I'm home and during prime time...

    I'll search what the PEGI replied to us and post it in here. What happened is apparently they weren't shown all aspects of TERA which is why they gave Frogster permission to use the PEGI 12 rating. Such a low age rating is a godsend for any publisher so they took it but now it's biting them in the arse.

    PEGI should be re-rating TERA and within a month or so after launch it should have its new rating which then Frogster is allowed to use.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,778Member Uncommon

    All i have to say is.... if the game im paying for does not look like the Original Korean version, then thank god i already cancelled my Tera. My money goes for the original design or stays in my pocket. To bad i dont live in korea, could have stayed playing a bit longer. Although that was not the main reason i cancelled, it also was part of my decision.

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  • Originally posted by NBlitz
    Want to guess what my lowest ping to the EU servers is? 20 ms...I'll never get that playing on the NA servers not to mention playing with the majority around the time I'm home and during prime time...

    Probably you play from north Europe so u have better ping, but i live more far in the south, so my ping is high, not to mention my shitty country don't care about the old network infrastructure. Is because if i decide to go for En Masse my ping will be absurd high, unplayable in PvP.


    I'll search what the PEGI replied to us and post it in here. What happened is apparently they weren't shown all aspects of TERA which is why they gave Frogster permission to use the PEGI 12 rating. Such a low age rating is a godsend for any publisher so they took it but now it's biting them in the arse.

    PEGI should be re-rating TERA and within a month or so after launch it should have its new rating which then Frogster is allowed to use.

    Everything to damage Frogster and their image is welcome, they deserve to leave TERA alone and sell the license to another and more competent company. They ruin my game i'm waiting for years and fucked up everything with their lies and crap.
    I hope the PEGI screw up them hard.

  • KehdarKehdar La SpeziaPosts: 440Member Uncommon

    To be honest from the reaction of a lot of people on official board to the new about the blood, the 12+ rating is even too generous, it should be 6+.

    I totally agree about stopping Frogster before they change istances, but all this fuss about some blood or the westernization of elins panties?

    Guys get a grip.

  • NBlitzNBlitz ZwollePosts: 1,904Member

    Found it. I had to work some Google cache magic because the thread and any links about it have been removed. I remember they went nuts deleting posts as it was all happening.

     

     


    Contacted pegi: Results here!



    Dear community,



    I didnt like waiting for Frogster so I did some research myself and called Nicam. Nicam is the company that did the ratings for Pegi and are in the Netherlands. The friendly man gave me a lot of extra information. Lets sum it up eh?! :



    - Frogster handed the game over to PEGI and they tested it thoroughly, giving it a 12+ rating. 

    - Frogster accepted that rating, publishers /always/ want a low rating, as low as possible.

    - PEGI now assumes that Frogster did not show /all/ of the content, as they have received tons of complaints about this already.

    - Nicam gave me an email adress that I could email with my complaint + motivation. Then a certain commitee would look at the complaint and possibly RE-RATE the game!

    - Rerating the game is easier than Frogster claimed. TERA can still be launched as a pegi 12 game while Pegi is working on a rerating already. So in theory the launch can continue and within a few weeks the game gets a new rating.

    - Re-rating does not take TOO long. Wont be possible before release but he said it can take to about a month. It requires different people from an EU organization to re-rate the game.

    - Its unique that a publisher wants a higher rating than given, as usually they want lower ratings.



    .... and most importantly.

    - Frogster got a rating 12+, meaning the game was APPROVED in the state it was (before the cencorship). Therefore Frogster did not HAVE to censor anything!!!!



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    So, that were the answers I was given. I would STRONGLY urge the community to email Nicam as well, with a detailed explanation as to why you think the rating of pegi 12 is too /low/. But remember to be POLITE. Its not their fault, I have the impression that they honestly want to help us and are willing to RE-RATE the game. Only with a constructive email to them you can get them to take us seriously. 



    The email adress you can send your letters to is : removed



    Thank you and together we can do this! I know we can.



    Signed:



    Proxima


  • SicaeSicae LulePosts: 110Member

    Games with a pegi 12 rating in europe. 

    Lineage. Lineage 2. Aion. Everquest. Asheron's Call. WoW. Lotro. Warhammer Online. Rift. Guild Wars 2 and also Tera Online.

  • A_hiA_hi pPosts: 87Member

    I totally love how they implied that every player of the Korean TERA is a sick pedo.

  • Dark_HUmarDark_HUmar AmsterdamPosts: 200Member

    I just think making a game Pegi 12 is stupid, like its going to stop kids from buying the game when its Pegi 16. The only thing its doing right now is that the game is geting cencored because they want to sell the game to 12 year old kids that where going to buy the game even if it was 16 years and over. I can remember when  GTA came out over here, when we went to the store to buy it (We where far under 18 at that time) they still sold the game to me and my friend. So again Pegi 12 is nog giving them more sales, its only making it harder on themself because now they have to cencor half the game. I like Tera Online a lot and its not going to stop me from playing the game, but making it Pegi 12 is just plain stupid!

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