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To Lotro, or not to Lotro?

harlokayneharlokayne Pinellas Park, FLPosts: 10Member

Hi, I'm new to the forums. 

I was thinking about starting a Lotro account, as it is one of the only MMO's I have yet to try. I LOVED Lord of The Rings, and it would be something new for me. I understand that its free to play, and that there is also an option to subscribe...my question is how free to play is it? Does the cash shop break the game? and If I choose to subscribe, how much bang would I get for my buck? How much content?

Thanks!

-Harlo

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  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Sayre, PAPosts: 553Member

    60 dollars and use of some  of the sales will get you every last bit of content and upgrades you ever wanted.

    That being said, the cash shop is meaningless, other than buying content.  Never waste a dime on the acceleration items.  Immersion is not too bad, and the epic storyline is one of the best parts of the game.  I am in the process of reviewing the game on my blog, but I have not fully gone through it yet.

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,873Member Uncommon

    If you haven't tried it, definitely give it a go.  It's a great PVE MMO.  Great communities in-game too.  I played on both Landroval and Briar(or something like that...it's the biggest server) and had great times on each.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,204Member Uncommon

    It's a free download and login so give it a go.  I think there are much better games out there, especially for the eventual price.  If you want to play the full game it can get expensive.  If you don't mind a very pared down game experience you can play for cheaper.

  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXPosts: 3,483Member Uncommon

    LOTRO has the best F2P hybrid system on the market. No other F2P game on the market offers as much for as little as LOTRO. The game is indeed content heavy, extremely heavy. Crafting is pretty decent as well, not too complex, yet satisfying. The graphics are DX10 and DX11 capable which I believe to be some of the most immersive available. I'm not saying it's polygon count is off the chart, but the ambience is 2nd to none. Really, the only con I have about LOTRO is the melee combat can seem sluggish and clunky. It's definitely not a trigger happy style of engagement.

    Like most have said, it's free to download, so the only thing you can do is try it out and see for yourself. Just a suggestion though, I personally find Runemasters the easiest to solo with, however, you will need a certain expansion to unlock them I think. If you don't have access, you can always try a Hunter since I found them easy to solo with as well. I normally don't suggest classes cause I believe people should play the classes that interest them the most, not the ones that are the easiest.

    Good luck and enjoy the game!

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  • harlokayneharlokayne Pinellas Park, FLPosts: 10Member

    Thank you all, all of your responses were very helpful!!

  • NeblessNebless Hammond, ORPosts: 939Member Common

    Originally posted by harlokayne

    I was thinking about starting a Lotro account,  . . . I understand that its free to play, and that there is also an option to subscribe...my question is how free to play is it?

    Totally free as you can get Turbine Points via in-game actions.  By the time you've done all the deeds etc.... in all the starter zones you'll have enough points to purchase the next zone you want and so on.  Players have listed "how to" guides on the offical forums to play the game totally free.  Worst case you can pick up a $20.00 point card at one of the stores that sell them or watch for the sales that come up in the LotRO shop.

    Does the cash shop break the game?

    No it doesn't as most of the items are cosmetic or of the accellerate kind, but since you get gift boxes in game with your new toon you'll see most of the same that way.  Only thing I think you'll need is an extra inventory bag.

    and If I choose to subscribe, how much bang would I get for my buck? How much content?

    Pretty much all the base game plus the 2 locked classes - warden (which I like) and RuneKeeper, which originally came with the Mines of Moria expansion.

    -Harlo

    A good trick if you can still kind one is to buy the SoA / MoM box for cheap $.  That will give you 30 days of free play as a Paying Player and thats when you create a bunch of toons on 1 or more servers to get the extra inventory bags & gold limit unlock.

     

     

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  • pierthpierth San Antonio, TXPosts: 1,503Member

    Originally posted by Nebless

    A good trick if you can still kind one is to buy the SoA / MoM box for cheap $.  That will give you 30 days of free play as a Paying Player and thats when you create a bunch of toons on 1 or more servers to get the extra inventory bags & gold limit unlock.

    This is excellent advice. I did this before the game went F2P and even now only sub to the game if I know I'll be playing regularly (more than twice a month) otherwise I just stick to the F2P and have no trouble at all.

  • harlokayneharlokayne Pinellas Park, FLPosts: 10Member

    Awesome thanks, I will most likely end up playing then! 

  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon

    it's one of my all time favorite games.

     

    if you want a good pve game with an immersive world and (on landroval at least) a STELLAR community it's the game for you.

     

    i'd scrounge the local game stores to find a box on the cheap for the free 30 days, then play as a subscriber.  the turbine points you get for free every month shoujld be able to buy you the expansions once you get to the point where you need them to advance.

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  • harlokayneharlokayne Pinellas Park, FLPosts: 10Member

    So wait, after I purchase MoM from Gamestop, or Amazon or whatever. Will I be a permanent VIP player? Or just for 30 days?

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,204Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by harlokayne

    So wait, after I purchase MoM from Gamestop, or Amazon or whatever. Will I be a permanent VIP player? Or just for 30 days?

    You will only be VIP (their term for subscriber) for the 30 days.  However if you can unlock account and game features in that time for your character (virtute slots and such) they will remain unlocked when you drop down to Premium.

    There are 2 "free play" account levels.  A new account that has spent no money with Turbine is considered a "Free Play" account and has several restrictions.  If you spend money by subscribing or purchasing Turbine Points then you are bumped up to "Premium" and have fewer restrictions.

  • pierthpierth San Antonio, TXPosts: 1,503Member

    Originally posted by harlokayne

    So wait, after I purchase MoM from Gamestop, or Amazon or whatever. Will I be a permanent VIP player? Or just for 30 days?

    Check the link: http://www.lotro.com/betasignup/vipchart.html

    "Purchasers of the Mines of Moria™ expansion get access to the Mines of Moria region and content, premium classes (Rune-Keeper and Warden), legendary items feature, Tier 6 crafting feature, 2 extra character slots and a level cap of 60. Purchasers of the Siege of Mirkwood™ expansion get access to the Siege of Mirkwood region and content, a level cap of 65 and the Siege of Mirkwood skirmishes."

     

    IIRC you're a permanent "premium" player. Not sure if you get VIP for the redeemable 30 days or not, but it would make sense.

  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Sayre, PAPosts: 553Member

    Just another reminder, LOTRO is not expensive, and about 60 dollars plus use of sales will get you everything you want (This will use the points you get from deeds as well)

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • nyxiumnyxium ManchesterPosts: 1,221Member Uncommon

    1. No panda's.

    2. They can't get away with playing with the lore to put panda's in.

    3. There is no way they can make a far east power grab and snub western fans by putting oriental temple's in Mordor. With Panda's.It just won't work.

    4. I love this game, especially the Prancing Pony, panda-less Prancing Pony. Cool game and only pay for stuff when you can or just only when you want to, no pressure despite the ads. Try it, free download, free account, etc. I would recommend upgrading to premium by buying a few points or purchasing the Mithril Edition.

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  • leojreimrocleojreimroc Toronto, ONPosts: 371Member

    Check out this link.  It has a lot of info on account types and how to make the most of either f2p, or short term subscriptions:

     

    http://lotro.mmorsel.com/2010/09/best-lotro-account-type.html

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by grimal

    If you haven't tried it, definitely give it a go.  It's a great PVE MMO.  Great communities in-game too.  I played on both Landroval and Briar(or something like that...it's the biggest server) and had great times on each.

    I agree, it's worth playing. Turbine did a great job with LOTRO.

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  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member

    yep i agree, they were good at how they took an older game in a semi new direction when they went F2P i was once worried about the way they did the store adding gear but now that i know that the gear in the store is really lower then the crafted items, it's not really an issue.

  • JRonnie1976JRonnie1976 BrisbanePosts: 14Member

    Ultimately if you want to play LOTRO casually, see the famous landmarks, play through the questlines, etc, then LOTRO will be fine for you.  The store doesn't really impact these aspects very much other than to unlock content for a reasonable price. 

    If however your intention is to play it a little bit more seriously, ie PvMP (LOTRO's brand of PVP) and raiding, then you'll likely be gimping yourself if you don't use the store to some extent (there is store advantage to be bought, particularly with the demise of the old destiny buff system).  If this would be an issue for you, then I'd suggest to steer clear.

  • KravisKravis Compton, CAPosts: 185Member Uncommon

    Definitely give it a go.

    Before the F2P days I tried the trial multiple times and just could not get into the game. The areas seem to small for LOTR. I was an idiot, I should have kept playing because this game is MASSIVE.

    I have not played every MMO out there but LOTR's F2P is without question the best of all the MMO's (except maybe EVE's where you can buy PLEX for ISK) I have played. The tie-in between Deeds, Traits and Turbine Points is a great function. Earning Turbine Points is a breeze, in fact it's so easy it makes me wonder if they will ever try to nerf it in some way.

    My biggest complaints, like some have mentioned here, are the character models. You have this huge wonderfully detailed world and these rather dreadful looking characters. I am also not a fan of the Swift Travel and the fact if you buy an expansion/quest pack your still locked out this function. Sorry Turbine, if I buy an area Swift Travel should be part of the deal. My only other real complaint is the disadvantage they leave subscribers at in regards to buying account unlocks. An example, right now they are selling Inventory Bags at 35% off but if you're a subscriber you can't buy these, you already have them. I understand why they would do this but it does leave some people feeling that subscribing can actually leave you at a disadvantage.

    Good luck. if you do play and talk friends into playing make sure you refer them so you get credit for them spending money.

  • KarahandrasKarahandras Sible HedinghamPosts: 1,673Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by harlokayne

    Hi, I'm new to the forums. 

    I was thinking about starting a Lotro account, as it is one of the only MMO's I have yet to try. I LOVED Lord of The Rings, and it would be something new for me. I understand that its free to play, and that there is also an option to subscribe...my question is how free to play is it? Does the cash shop break the game? and If I choose to subscribe, how much bang would I get for my buck? How much content?

    Thanks!

    -Harlo

    Screw it, I'm going to play devils advocate for a moment and give a bit of a perspective from someone that didn't like the game, for the sake of a bit of balance.

    As a essentially a pve game the cash shop shouldn't be a pay to win model and i believe it isn't.  But unless you are willing to grind a lot chances are you are going to need to spend some money on the game.  If you are sensible it van be less than it cost before going f2p, but there are some reports that it may end up being a lot more going to depend on how much of the content etc. you feel you need to buy.  Will say that if u do like the game could be worth searching for game time cards, atm in the uk i think it would cost me £3 a month or so to sub.

    For me the game was much more world of warcraft than it was lord of the rings.  Although i think they used a pre wow game to make their wow clone, if that makes sense.  I'll mention it, archlord.  But wether or not a game(or film etc) matches the name is down to the individual, so'll you'll have to try it and decide for yourself.

    I'll mention some of the things i didn't like about the 'game' side, from what i can remember.

    Character customisation, basically there wasn't any.  Character creation was race, class, sex and haircut and that was it, putting it just a hair above those game that gender lock.  In skill terms there also wasn't any.  You level up and go buy a new skill that was pretty mush it.  You can costomise your numbers a bit(i think these were called traits but can't remember) but from what i can remember this was essentially a very long dull grind for a slight stat increase.  All this meant to me was that my elf ranger etc was exactltly the same as every other elf ranger etc.  And since they used the same models for npc's aswell as player it got a bit weird.

    I won't mention the animations as i think someone else has already done that.

    Some others I also think you can add as misnomers.  

    The crafting.  Another very long very dull and quite frankly pointless grind.  I see this usually mentioned as a plus, but i'm not sure if that's just relative to wow or something.  Seeing as how I would usually end up with a reward item anyway If you want to craft i would suggest going for cooking or something with at least some use later on not as i did and go for the obvious

    The community.  Despite what some people will tell you it can be just as bad as every other mmo out there, there's just less reason to interact with thi 'idiots',  and wether or not this is a godd thing is a matter or perspective.

    I want to add that I don't describe lotro as a 'bad' game, it isn't.  It's just that it isn't good either(i suppose this part is quite obvious since almost no one was willing to pay the sub and hence f2p).  Lotro is usually described as meh, but since that isn't a term i like to use I'll say that it's(or was) very bland.  I don't mean bland as in vanilla, I mean balnd as in a cereal that tastes of cardboard bland.  You may not like it but you think you should.

    Since the game is free(sort of) now and as long as it doesn't break and limits set by your isp, best bet is to try and decide for yourself

    If you want more info on the 'bad' (and maybe even the 'good') i would suggest remaking this thread in either the lfg or general sections of these boards.  

    Also if any of this need updating since the game went f2p please do so.

  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Sayre, PAPosts: 553Member

    Originally posted by JRonnie1976

    Ultimately if you want to play LOTRO casually, see the famous landmarks, play through the questlines, etc, then LOTRO will be fine for you.  The store doesn't really impact these aspects very much other than to unlock content for a reasonable price. 

    If however your intention is to play it a little bit more seriously, ie PvMP (LOTRO's brand of PVP) and raiding, then you'll likely be gimping yourself if you don't use the store to some extent (there is store advantage to be bought, particularly with the demise of the old destiny buff system).  If this would be an issue for you, then I'd suggest to steer clear.

    PVP is not much played, and the cash shop has little to no advantage for it.  Unless, of course, one means the advantage of less grinding.  But that is merely a matter of time, not edge.

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • wrightstufwrightstuf Carlsbad, CAPosts: 655Member Uncommon

    That is the question

  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Sayre, PAPosts: 553Member

    I don't typically do this, but this post is begging to be torn apart.

    Originally posted by Karahandras

    Screw it, I'm going to play devils advocate for a moment and give a bit of a perspective from someone that didn't like the game, for the sake of a bit of balance.

    As a essentially a pve game the cash shop shouldn't be a pay to win model and i believe it isn't.  But unless you are willing to grind a lot chances are you are going to need to spend some money on the game.  If you are sensible it van be less than it cost before going f2p, but there are some reports that it may end up being a lot more going to depend on how much of the content etc. you feel you need to buy.  Will say that if u do like the game could be worth searching for game time cards, atm in the uk i think it would cost me £3 a month or so to sub.

    First off, grinding is minimal in this game.  Unless you consider grinding raids for final gear, but that is irrelevant.  Also, with sales and good spending of points, you are spending about $80 dollars total on this game for the complete lot of content, which is cheaper in the long run than most all MMO's out there.

    For me the game was much more world of warcraft than it was lord of the rings.  Although i think they used a pre wow game to make their wow clone, if that makes sense.  I'll mention it, archlord.  But wether or not a game(or film etc) matches the name is down to the individual, so'll you'll have to try it and decide for yourself.

    It did share a lot of features with WoW, but at this point, it has grown up and come to its own with content and features that are distinctly different than WoW.

    I'll mention some of the things i didn't like about the 'game' side, from what i can remember.

    Character customisation, basically there wasn't any.  Character creation was race, class, sex and haircut and that was it, putting it just a hair above those game that gender lock.  In skill terms there also wasn't any.  You level up and go buy a new skill that was pretty mush it.  You can costomise your numbers a bit(i think these were called traits but can't remember) but from what i can remember this was essentially a very long dull grind for a slight stat increase.  All this meant to me was that my elf ranger etc was exactltly the same as every other elf ranger etc.  And since they used the same models for npc's aswell as player it got a bit weird

    Class traits are where a lot of the differences lie, and it is as good as any MMO out there in the AAA category.  Aesthetic customization is also as good as it gets with the wardrobe system, which allows for some truly diverse characters.

    I won't mention the animations as i think someone else has already done that.

    Some others I also think you can add as misnomers.  

    The crafting.  Another very long very dull and quite frankly pointless grind.  I see this usually mentioned as a plus, but i'm not sure if that's just relative to wow or something.  Seeing as how I would usually end up with a reward item anyway If you want to craft i would suggest going for cooking or something with at least some use later on not as i did and go for the obvious

    If it was not for crafting, 2nd and 1st age LI's would not be possible.

    The community.  Despite what some people will tell you it can be just as bad as every other mmo out there, there's just less reason to interact with thi 'idiots',  and wether or not this is a godd thing is a matter or perspective.

    There are far less idiots in this game than others, global chats are typically filled with better banter and you find a crowd that is typically older than 25.  People are also helpful in game, and the ony real idiots tend to be restricted to their own guilds.

    I want to add that I don't describe lotro as a 'bad' game, it isn't.  It's just that it isn't good either(i suppose this part is quite obvious since almost no one was willing to pay the sub and hence f2p).  Lotro is usually described as meh, but since that isn't a term i like to use I'll say that it's(or was) very bland.  I don't mean bland as in vanilla, I mean balnd as in a cereal that tastes of cardboard bland.  You may not like it but you think you should.

    Since the game is free(sort of) now and as long as it doesn't break and limits set by your isp, best bet is to try and decide for yourself

    If you want more info on the 'bad' (and maybe even the 'good') i would suggest remaking this thread in either the lfg or general sections of these boards.  

    Also if any of this need updating since the game went f2p please do so.

     

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • RainBringerRainBringer AucklandPosts: 150Member

    Originally posted by lifesbrink

    First off, grinding is minimal in this game.  

     

     

    I just want to correct you on that point, since you are wrong. The grind in this game is horrendous to a Lot of people who arent used to it. And I dont mean the part where you grind mobs for levels, but that part where you grind mobs, instances and dailies to level up your weapons(and class items): LIs. 

    Some spend months chasing after this proverbial carrot and still end up with less than optimum items for their class. If the fact that simply leveling up LIs doesnt take so much time, the real kicker is that crafting the LI you are happy with at level cap might take you more time than just getting to the level cap on your character. Take it from someone who spent around 2 months of casual play crafting a lvl 65 LI (back in mid 2011 when 65 was cap), getting that 5major 2minor halberd and then farming for the scrolls to up them all to tier 6 and then leveling it up and then grinding out all the runes and attachments for them (while there still were tier 9 stuff) made me quit LotrO for around half a year and ironically it was just after I had maxed out my LI and had become a top notch raid-support Captain.

    Sad joke is that when I went back, the xpac was out and my awesome LI had become useless since 2nd ages from the next tier of lvl far outshined my current LI that I spent a good part of my time in LotRo on. So I played on a little bit longer but when I couldnt make do with my old LI any longer and had to get a new LI and redo the entire process of LI hunting all over again, is when I said "Fuck it, Im done with LotRO" and quit all my freeps without even hitting level 75 on my main.

     

    So went over to the pvmp side of LotRO after another haitus of a few months. Ranked up to around rank7 on my low population server. Kept getting brutalized by freep zergs like nearly every other creep ever since the xpac removed the freep stat cap. Tried to stick around and convince myself that this game was still fun, but I just couldnt do it anymore. Left with the option to switch servers or bid my final adieu to LotRO, I went with the latter and Lotro was off my harddisk.

     

    Long SOB story short, try the game OP. Its fun while it lasts, unless you arent a lore freak and want it down like how its in the books right down to the T. Roll your toon on a high population server like Brandywine or Landroval and you might enjoy both freeping and creeping, dont pick a near ghost town like server Dwarrowdelf or Crickhollow or whatever is deserted nowadays. Sub for a month or two, get all your characters to lvl 20, get them their riding traits and make a bunch of toons on other servers to check out populations on both creeps and freeps while your sub lasts so that they will have ALL their trait slots unlocked. You could buy the rest of the game with the bonus monthly TP if you choose to remained subbed or earn TPs by just playing the game. I might not like LotRO for some reasons and how it has become, but I will always consider Turbine's freemium model the best in the MMO market as of today. The game is decent, has a good bit of content but it can get repeatative at the level caps so be warned.

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  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Sayre, PAPosts: 553Member

    I think the issue is that you are talking about lvl 65 and the previous game.  They changed it now, grinding is nonexistent with LI's.  Just be leveling to 75, you have more than enough item experience to not only level your LI up to max, but extra for when expansions come out.  As it is, right now, I have a lvl 75 bow for my hunter, and when it was crafted, I used my runes and scrolls to achieve the perfect weapon and hit max all within about 5 minutes.  Hardly grinding.

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