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Why Guild Wars 2 won't be an esport.

asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

 there are too many imbalances in the traits.

For example, http://www.gw2tools.com/skills#e;ap...feaa;Zaaa;ZUfib

An engineer with 100% uptime for elixir b, or an elementalist with near 100% uptime of speed boost.

sc, lol fifa, etc. has a even playing field. gw2 without the traits is fine for e-sport, but with the traits its causes a few complications and an uneven playing field.

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  • QuenchsterQuenchster Monroe, MIPosts: 450Member

    That is a 20% faster elixir cooldown. The elixer B would still have a 16 second cooldown.

    Edit: I don't think the buffs will last as long as they are in beta right now. 10 seconds of fury makes that elixir crazy even without the traits.

  • Arathir86Arathir86 CanberraPosts: 442Member Uncommon

    This was an insightful post which included many aspects which gave credence to your opinions and conjecture, thank you for posting such an indepth 'article' on why GW2 wont be an eSports.

    You have truly opened my eyes to the truth, and your skills as a industry professional able to look into the future of a game are unparralled.

     

    *cough*

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Portland, ORPosts: 1,277Member

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

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  • KyelthisKyelthis Phoenix, AZPosts: 284Member

    You realize this game is in beta right? If things are deemed to be imbalanced, they will be balanced. Having played GW1, I know that (for the most part) builds that would break PvP as a group or even as a single player, were nerfed pretty hard pretty quick. You can thank Izzy for that, and he's gonna be doing the same thing here in GW2.

     

  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Kreedz

    This was an insightful post which included many aspects which gave credence to your opinions and conjecture, thank you for posting such an indepth 'article' on why GW2 wont be an eSports.

    You have truly opened my eyes to the truth, and your skills as a industry professional able to look into the future of a game are unparralled.

     

    *cough*

     

    i hope i feel worthy upon your gaze.

  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

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  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Kyelthis

    You realize this game is in beta right? If things are deemed to be imbalanced, they will be balanced. Having played GW1, I know that (for the most part) builds that would break PvP as a group or even as a single player, were nerfed pretty hard pretty quick. You can thank Izzy for that, and he's gonna be doing the same thing here in GW2.

     

     

    Dude, I prepurchased this game on the day it was released...25 ce copies.

     

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    And i still continue to play gw1 couple hours a week.

  • sk8chalifsk8chalif Montreal, QCPosts: 599Member Uncommon

    Beta

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  • KyelthisKyelthis Phoenix, AZPosts: 284Member

    Originally posted by asianbboy101

    Originally posted by Kyelthis

    You realize this game is in beta right? If things are deemed to be imbalanced, they will be balanced. Having played GW1, I know that (for the most part) builds that would break PvP as a group or even as a single player, were nerfed pretty hard pretty quick. You can thank Izzy for that, and he's gonna be doing the same thing here in GW2.

     

     

    Dude, I prepurchased this game on the day it was released...25 ce copies.

     

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    And i still continue to play gw1 couple hours a week.

    Dunno what that has to do with my post, but ok. I was just pointing out that according to their past balance with GW1, I wouldn't worry about it too much. All we can do is wait and see at this point, send some feedback in beta and hope they catch some of the more major balance issues before release.

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Shiloh, ILPosts: 864Member

    Originally posted by asianbboy101

    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

     

    what are you saying...wow is very balance.

    WoW is an MMO, so that in itself means its not balanced. On top of the fact they change something about each class every update. Nice try though.... :-)

  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Kyelthis

    Originally posted by asianbboy101


    Originally posted by Kyelthis

    You realize this game is in beta right? If things are deemed to be imbalanced, they will be balanced. Having played GW1, I know that (for the most part) builds that would break PvP as a group or even as a single player, were nerfed pretty hard pretty quick. You can thank Izzy for that, and he's gonna be doing the same thing here in GW2.

     

     

    Dude, I prepurchased this game on the day it was released...25 ce copies.

     

    image

    And i still continue to play gw1 couple hours a week.

    Dunno what that has to do with my post, but ok. I was just pointing out that according to their past balance with GW1, I wouldn't worry about it too much. All we can do is wait and see at this point, send some feedback in beta and hope they catch some of the more major balance issues before release.

    lol i still remember the vor imbalance, forgot the ranger spike build [the one you use flail], sp assassin. good ole days.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Raleigh, NCPosts: 2,773Member

    Originally posted by asianbboy101

    Originally posted by Kyelthis

    You realize this game is in beta right? If things are deemed to be imbalanced, they will be balanced. Having played GW1, I know that (for the most part) builds that would break PvP as a group or even as a single player, were nerfed pretty hard pretty quick. You can thank Izzy for that, and he's gonna be doing the same thing here in GW2.

     

     

    Dude, I prepurchased this game on the day it was released...25 ce copies.

     

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    And i still continue to play gw1 couple hours a week.

    Holy shizzle my nizzle 25 Ce copies.

    Oh and I'm sure you can't wait for [beta] lol

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member

    Originally posted by mackdawg19

    Originally posted by asianbboy101


    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

     

    what are you saying...wow is very balance.

    WoW is an MMO, so that in itself means its not balanced. On top of the fact they change something about each class every update. Nice try though.... :-)

    Apparently he deleted the post where he claimed WoW is balanced.  Good, because that's a total lie.

  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member

    So nobody read the interview that came out a week or so ago, where somebody from Arenanet pointed out that all the traits were severely imbalanced in beta and that they were currently working on them, and they were all placeholders and they realized most of them were balance breakers?

    No?

    ...

    Okay.  Carry on then.

  • DerpybirdDerpybird Boston, MAPosts: 991Member

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by mackdawg19


    Originally posted by asianbboy101


    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

     

    what are you saying...wow is very balance.

    WoW is an MMO, so that in itself means its not balanced. On top of the fact they change something about each class every update. Nice try though.... :-)

    Apparently he deleted the post where he claimed WoW is balanced.  Good, because that's a total lie.

    Mages and Rogues think WoW is perfectly balanced.

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  • VinterkrigVinterkrig BOSTON, MAPosts: 1,672Member

    E-sports are a myth, stupid term as well.. that is all :)

  • Crake_1Crake_1 Toronto, ONPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Vinterkrig

    E-sports are a myth, stupid term as well.. that is all :)

    Tell that to South Korea. They loves them some professional gaming. 

  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    So nobody read the interview that came out a week or so ago, where somebody from Arenanet pointed out that all the traits were severely imbalanced in beta and that they were currently working on them, and they were all placeholders and they realized most of them were balance breakers?

    No?

    ...

    Okay.  Carry on then.

    http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/interviews/traits-and-builds-interview-jon-peters

    You mean this one Meowhead?  Don't forget to read part two!  It's an interesting article!

    Oh, thanks Meowhead.  I appreciate the link.  I'll go read part two, right now.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,498Member Uncommon

    I don't know whether or not people will consider Guild Wars 2 an e-sport, but basing your balance issues on a BETA without a release date might be one of the stupidest ideas I've seen in a long time.

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon

    Who cares?

    Going off this thread it sounds like none of you are part of the esport community. GW2 being an esport or not isn't a selling point for the game, from the standpoint of the average gamer. We don't play games because they are an esport, no one cares.

    The only reason Anet announced this at all, is due to Anet wanting (as a longterm goal) to inject themselves into the Esport community. Furthermore, as has been stated already in this thread, complaining about balance in a game that is currently being balanced w/ no release date, is indeed monumentally stupid.

  • HomituHomitu Hometown, HIPosts: 2,030Member

    Even if one class was permanently 15% faster than all other classes, that would not "break" the class.  Speed could just as easily be a class mechanic, though it isn't in GW2.  You cited LoL as a balanced esport.  Every character has varying movement speed in that game.  Additionally, just like traits, you can choose to set your runes and masteries for speed increases with 100% uptime.  Just like everything else, though, there is a give and a take involved.  If you do that, you sacrifice stats elsewhere, just as it will be in GW2.  

  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    So nobody read the interview that came out a week or so ago, where somebody from Arenanet pointed out that all the traits were severely imbalanced in beta and that they were currently working on them, and they were all placeholders and they realized most of them were balance breakers?

    No?

    ...

    Okay.  Carry on then.

    http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/interviews/traits-and-builds-interview-jon-peters

    You mean this one Meowhead?  Don't forget to read part two!  It's an interesting article!

    Oh, thanks Meowhead.  I appreciate the link.  I'll go read part two, right now.

    thanks meowhead. gonna read it in a few minutes. i suppose that makes sense, they're just placeholders.

  • asianbboy101asianbboy101 what, MNPosts: 82Member

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by mackdawg19


    Originally posted by asianbboy101


    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

     

    what are you saying...wow is very balance.

    WoW is an MMO, so that in itself means its not balanced. On top of the fact they change something about each class every update. Nice try though.... :-)

    Apparently he deleted the post where he claimed WoW is balanced.  Good, because that's a total lie.

    i thought wow was pretty balanced. except one class here and there. such as the rogue.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member

    Originally posted by asianbboy101

    Originally posted by Eir_S


    Originally posted by mackdawg19


    Originally posted by asianbboy101


    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    whether its balanced or not doesnt matter. just look at wow.

     

    what are you saying...wow is very balance.

    WoW is an MMO, so that in itself means its not balanced. On top of the fact they change something about each class every update. Nice try though.... :-)

    Apparently he deleted the post where he claimed WoW is balanced.  Good, because that's a total lie.

    i thought wow was pretty balanced. except one class here and there. such as the rogue.

    rogue? what are you smoking if you wanna call any class unbalanced, its the freaking paladin. least during wotlk they were, i'm pretty sure they kept their OPness through cata tho. they could tank the best in the most fights, best tank healers, and even topped dps charts on alot of fights too. rogues only had dps.

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Tacoma, WAPosts: 6,068Member Uncommon

    You guys still don't get it do you?  http://www.teamquitter.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=27150

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