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I for one am all for this and am excited about it. Is there a chance that they will completly lose focus of everything that makes ES good? Yep. Will the're fail make me like ES games less? Nope. And if they do make this game epic then imagine the impact on the community? I am for them giving this game a go. I am behind Bethesda 100%. Until they do something stupid like get rid of First Person view or something crazy like that. But even if they do that, I'll still support Oblivion and Skyrim. Those games are awesome no matter what they put out after.
Guys, you seriously didn't know this? http://www.zenimaxonline.com/ had this displayed for quiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee a while.
Glad it's official though.
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Originally posted by Sora2810 Guys, you seriously didn't know this? http://www.zenimaxonline.com/ had this displayed for quiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee a while. Glad it's official though.
Sorta, thats all old news really, and the funny thing is that if you read the faq and about us, everyone they talk about has been FIRED for not being able to produce anything viable. Zenimax online has already been completely revamped with new employees and staff, but that website was never updated.
single player games get boring fast; I say go for it and release an MMO lol
Originally posted by Leethe Wow!!!! A maker of single-player games is gonna dip their feet into the MMO arena with a MASSIVE IP! This is gonna be EPIC! I mean, how can a company with such an amazing reputation go wrong...
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finally a new mmo with more than 2 factions, took them a while to figure out 2 way pvp doesnt always (ever?) work out that good.
So many things would have to change from Skyrim (as most recent example) to work in a MMO environment.
If it is true, I'm very interested to see what they have in store though.
I mean, who else but Bethesda to come up with answers / solutions to the issue that you could never realistically do a MMO just like Skyrim/Oblivion.
The very principle, the underlying truth of what makes their RPG's good isn't just that it's an open RPG instead of a more linear journey, it's that it's YOUR open RPG.
As soon as it becomes multiplayer, especially massively multiplayer in a persistent world, it no longer is YOUR world and YOUR open RPG and YOUR journey.
The one thing that ruins most people's sandbox is other people stomping through it and knocking down your sand castle.
How will Bethesda answer this problem? What will their solution be?
Hopefully we'll find out in May.
factions? maybe they are going to put the Houses to fight each other, I smell some serious Hlaalu, Redoran and Telvanni warfare. If that's the case, I am joining Telvanni from day one.
Ugg... I've loved TES ever since Morrowind, but.... I'm not really looking forward to this. Hooray, another IP being screwed thanks to greed.....
Originally posted by Magnetia Mmmm part of the charm is being able to freely murder innocent people on the street. In MMO world that's griefing. In Skyrim it's called being a badass dragonborne. I would love ES mmo if they can figure out the rules between players. Shopping in Riften then all of a sudden an arrow appears in your skull and half your health is gone and the sniper is invisible. Sneaking doesn't work so well vs real players XD
I think people that want to grief other players "just for fun" have some sort of mental pathology that needs to be studied. PvP between consensuals is one thing, but griefing for kicks is another thing entirely. I'm not sure which you were referring to in your post, but it made me think about this. Perhaps you were referring to murdering NPCs only. idk
If they're making an Elder Scrolls MMO it would ruin it (in my opinion) if it wasn't predominantly a sandbox, with no classes, loads of skills, the ability to build your own homes, and USEFUL crafting, along with everything that was so great about Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim (though I haven't played Skyrim yet).
I answered the poll with "maybe."
And when I say sandbox, I do NOT mean FFA PvP. I want RP servers at least, possibly PvE, and definitely PvP for the PvP'ers. I don't care if the PvP servers are FFA loot rules, actually.
Originally posted by just1opinion Originally posted by Magnetia Mmmm part of the charm is being able to freely murder innocent people on the street. In MMO world that's griefing. In Skyrim it's called being a badass dragonborne.
I think people that want to grief other players "just for fun" have some sort of mental pathology that needs to be studied. PvP between consensuals is one thing, but griefing for kicks is another thing entirely. I'm not sure which you were referring to in your post, but it made me think about this.
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A MMORPG that plays like Morrowind that would be awesome. One man can dream
Originally posted by greyed-out Originally posted by Morv They would never use the Creation Engine for an MMO, as you pointed out it would never work... They would write a new one as they did for Skyrim. In fact, they mentioned they will use the same engine for Skyrim on another game and then make a new one. Odds are they have already written the MMO Engine or are in the middle of it... We just don't know it yet!
But we do know; they chose the Hero Engine back in 2007: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16368
Ugh, I don't like the sound of that.
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It is speculated that this means the unannounced game is set during the Second Era of Elder Scrolls lore, hundreds of years before any game in the fantasy role-playing series. It will, apparently, feature three playable factions, each represented by an animal: lion, dragon and bird of prey (either a phoenix or an eagle).
n 2007, Bethesda's parent company ZeniMax hired Mythic Entertainment co-founder Matt Firor to lead development of an MMO. His experience on Dark Ages of Camelot, a traditional fantasy game, closely fits the Elder Scrolls bill.
I smell a new dark age of camelot look alike with 3 factions i like!!!. Give RVR back!
Originally posted by Delekhan81
I smell a new dark age of camelot look alike with 3 factions i like!!!. Give RVR back!
Your smell is off. I am sure you smelled the same with WAR? I could somewhat understand that smell considering it even the same company, but this is just one guy from that company.
Took 'em long enough... Folks have been begging for them to make a sandbox mmo for years =P
Originally posted by Otomox A MMORPG that plays like Morrowind that would be awesome. One man can dream
Has everyone completely ignored Darkfall? It's the closest literal translation of a game created somewhere in between Morrowind and Oblivion and thrust into an MMO enviornment.
It shares the same standard fantasy setting and stuff as well.
Originally posted by uohaloran Originally posted by Otomox A MMORPG that plays like Morrowind that would be awesome. One man can dream
Has everyone completely ignored Darkfall? It's the closest literal translation of a game created somewhere in between Morrowind and Oblivion into an MMO enviornment.
Pretty much, PvPers are like locusts. They hype an upcoming game like its going to cure cancer getting into flame wars about nubs, players that need to L2P, and defend the game like their mommies baked it just for their birthday.
Then after 3 to 6 months of playing it, cancel the sub, jump on the forums and rage quit and start the cycle all over again on the next cancer curing, baked by mommy for their birthday, end all, be all game coming up.
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire:Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
I have no faith at all in bethesda to create a quality MMO. Especially after seeing the dung that two great companies,Blizzard and Bioware, have done with their MMOs. Superficial 'AAA' themepark hogwash is all I expect.
But this is stil big news and will be exciting to see what happens. :-) Just the fact that they are going with 3 factions does point to something significant... The fact is, DAOC and Planetside have some of the best RvR/PvP and it is thanks to their 3 faction warfare. So that does flag it as something to watch. Also, this is Besthesda, and they are a company that makes good games so who knows, this might be the AAA to break the mold (assuming archeage cannot when its brought to the US, but fingers crossed for that too!!)
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I dont get it.
Who announces that they are going to announce something?
They really think they're that important?
Hopefully their ego's dont get the better of them, and they stay humble...
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I will say, even if they keep everything as similar as they can, for it to have even remotely the same adventurer feeling it is going to have to be either big, or have a much smaller number of players per server or both.
And when I say big, I mean big. Daggerfall big, maybe. Huge. Massive. Or you will run into other adventurers all the time and it will just suck.
And by the same token, if there are thousands of people on the same server doing stuff, that's not going to be that great either, because there can't be so many simultaneous great adventurers, even if they go the proper route and make each person just another pre-arrow adventurer instead of the chosen one or some ridiculously implausible badass.
It would be one of the hardest things to pull off well, but, bugs notwithstanding, if anyone can do it, Bethesda can.
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Originally posted by lectrocudaI dont get it. Who announces that they are going to announce something? They really think they're that important?Hopefully their ego's dont get the better of them, and they stay humble...
ZeniMax, parent company of Bethesda games, hired some pretty heafty talent from the MMO field several years ago. That started this mess.Then they kept hiring and advertising looking for talent in the field and a related "mmorpg" project. Sometimes the words "fantasy mmorpg" were used.
Then they sued Interplay to stop the production of their Fallout MMO; citing (successfully so) that they on the license and possibly had plans for a MMORPG.
The fact that it's confirmed to more than likely possibly maybe be a game related to The Elder Scrolls is pretty recent super assumption that seems to stick more so than say;
Doom online, and that's something they could do.Brink online, another thing they could do.Fallout online, probably the other most likely candidate.
OR even a new IP for the mmorpg market.
The most far out rumor I've heard from within the industry (like that crap is ever reliable) is Arx Fatalis online. That basically being a 3D Ultima Online. Considering the history and the license swapping that's gone on there.
If the Might & Magic IP wanted to move into the ZeniMax Online sphere they'd probably be the first company able to handle that as well.
So, it's super speculation at the moment based on a whole lot of ass-umption.
But by god I hope it's TESO.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Hmm dragon for human races, eagle for elve races and lion for khajit/argonian/orcs...
Cool the game will be normal faction vs normal faction vs FURRY faction... I cant wait to see the yiffing chat in the main leveling areas of the lion faction