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Bethesda to Announce Elder Scrolls MMO in May
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I would like to add that the developers created Skyrim with mostly DirectX 9 code. They used a little of 11, but primarily 9, mostly because there was no reason to go higher or it just wasn't in Directx, but what is key is the detail of the graphics and the incredible 'lack' of demand on a GTX 570 video card... and by that I mean, with Witcher 2 running it would easily get up to 80C, I mean this card was going nuts, but with Skyrim maxed out, almost never over 70C.
What it comes down to is the methodology they used to trick the player into thinking that the mountain they see in the distance is 3D, when, sure up close it is, but at a distance that's a 2D plane... not 3D. It's a trick, and well done too.
Because they spent so much time honing and making sure the Video RAM demand is low, it's easy to spawn that much stuff in Whiterun without any problem... They designed and programmed it correctly! Something that is missing from so many games, it's painful to think about.
That's true, but I don't see a problem with that.
If anything maybe they'll go to a less tank / mage type system like Daggerfall had. You could try and build it, but it was a lot harder than in Morrowind or Skyrim for certain.
I suppose we'd just have to see.
There's a chance there could be a MMO about existing in the world with others and not so much time focused on just progression.
This would have to be a serious PVP game for me to be overly interested. But even if it was more like a lobby based / explore our cool dungeons with 2 or 3 other hero type deals (maybe I over heard something when I lived in DC a year or two ago)..
I'd probably be more giddy just knowing there'd be an official mod that allowed multiplayer in one of their existing games.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Well, it *could* be something far from Dagger-to-Skyrim... They have made Redguard (action) and TES:Travels games (isometric). It could very well be a cookie cutter RTS based in Tamriel, or something.
If they are smart, they will realise their limitations and just pimp the TES name out on something generic, or really "out there" and unexpected (that hopefully works).
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They would never use the Creation Engine for an MMO, as you pointed out it would never work... They would write a new one as they did for Skyrim.
In fact, they mentioned they will use the same engine for Skyrim on another game and then make a new one. Odds are they have already written the MMO Engine or are in the middle of it... We just don't know it yet!
Not completely surprised. It was rumored they were working on an MMO. Just didnt know if it was ES or FO IP. Depends on how they execute, but potential to be signifigant. Can easily see theme park as the intro (like in the ES games) then complete sandbox once "outside"
If they can deliver the same realism provided on console to an online audience, I say kudos to the new direction on MMO.
I see the class/skill systems being more of a option system where you can use a template class that gives you the basics of what you need for that class, but yet you can take that template and add or substatute other skills to make it unique to you. A template/class system with freedom of choosing your actual skills if you so desire, whiel using the slass/template merely as a method to hekp players leanr or function well is not bad. I mean all professions/classes/templates have some skills they need to function correctly. Such as a mage or cleric needs to know how to cast spells, use certain items, info about their orders, and such as well as hwo to use thigns like weapons or armor that are common to them. Yet allowing the layer to take the priest template/class in the start of the game to get a handle for the game, then choosing to learn say swordsmenship and also to wear heavy armor, would make the character into a paladin style character.This kind of system though is already in the ES serie, and a established system in it for awhile now.
If they allow npcs to be perma killed in game such as in towns, or such. Having the ability to add a npc with a new story, backgroound, and such as patches proceed along to give that feeling that the world is moving along, even to where npcs might die off in game without a player having to attck them, such as from age, monsters, ro such. This is also a good way of keeping the in a form that can feel like a living world as people die, leave cities, and new peole pop up. Also this allows the devs to populate the world with changing quests, as you have these new spawned npcs stocked with different new quests that are diferent from what the other npc had. This is one part of the fact i hate about perma death is unless you have a way of respawning or populating the areas with new npcs, it wll seem like the world is actually dying, since even in the real world people move in and out alot to take places of those the disappeaar over time.
The fact of names that are not rp=wise immersive or destructive to the play of other players in the game or lore of it. You can build into the characetr creation that invalidates names, such as those that have XXX before them or after, or have certain symbols in them as well. Although you could use a tag system to make a unique label for the players that is used for determining where mesages are sent, invites sent, and such while you allow players to use duplicate names to keep the universe more dynamic in that in a world like ours you will have peole with the same name. Although giving a toggle option to see either the tag, or the stardard name would be nice as well.
"We'll see"
Sorry but I'm a huge fan of the elderscroll series and this could so easily go south. So "we'll see".
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It's gonna be a hell of a game.
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Unfortunately, this is something that should have been announced, and worked on, 5 years ago. This is relatively new (as there is no such thing as secrecy in this industry)
While I'd enjoy it, I don't feel like waiting the 3+ years development will take.
ZeniMax is the MMO portion of the company. It is a well-known secret that they have been working on an MMO over the last 3 years. Perhaps the Fallout MMO, but, maybe ... just maybe ... it's the ES MMO.
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EVE?
UO?
SWG?
Other than EVE, there hasn't been a single sandbox MMO that was made well since UO and SWG. This is a great opportunity to finally show all you sandbox haters that sandboxes are not as niche as you think. Perhaps we will finally see the first AAA sandbox MMO.
But we do know; they chose the Hero Engine back in 2007: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16368
Unfortunately FPV MMO's aren't good. By good, I mean successful.
I am a fan of elderscrolls games. However, I will remain neutral about this just because both Bethesda and ZeniMax don't have experience in the mmorpg genre.
Looking forward to EQL and EQN.
My only real concern is the questing system..
If they could implement something like DE from GW2, I would give it a chance
If they will be text based/linear quests than screw this.. i don't wanna play a wow with first person pov, no matter what the ip is
How about a Sandbox with theme-park elements? Why does it have to be your way? Why can themeparks have sandbox elements, but sandboxes can't have themepark elements?
Full PvP, Full Loot, Skill based, not class based, un-instanced open world, meaningful control of territory, meaningful player crafting, lack of epic loot, and so on. Just because it may have quests, arena combat, and dungeons wouldn't mean it's no longer a sandbox.
FPV and twitch combat works in single player games, but it doesn't in MMO's. It wouldn't be a bad sacrifice to have TPV(which skyrim has) and tab-targetting combat with some freeform melee with non-targetted skills and abilities. I personally can't stomach Oblivion because of the FPV. I'm certainly not the only one that would be fine with that change. MMO's and tab-targetting (Wow-style) combat simply work best. You can keep everything else the same. You'll have to rework the spells and skills in the MMO, but it's not like they didn't do that for Skyrim.
I don't see much of an issue here.
Why would anyone think this is a good idea. The games are mediocre storywise and only shine because of the "do anything you want" gameplay (and mods if you're smart enough to play it on PC). If you have a bunch of people walking around doing whatever they want, that'd be a shitty and crowded game. I'm sure that wont be cause so then it'll be completely different from what makes TES great. It'll either be an obvious cash cow to idiots/super fans like SWTOR or it'll be a gankfest like DF or MO with every dork running around in heavy armor casting fire on everyone and killing all the NPCs. I'm sure it'll be the first one.
If it's something different it's still not TES. May as well make an Arkham City MMO where everyones batman. Or how about a pac man MMO.
lol, didn't they rewrite the rendering portion of it or was that guy making that up too? I would be curious to know what they actually did do with the gamebryo honestly, that stuff interests me, but I don't remember reading anywhere that it was mostly Gamebryo, but I wouldn't be surprised either.
Or...
They could actually try and balance skills and spells to support a multiplayer environment. Which is something they would obviously try to do. If people are going to look at this as Skyrim Online, where all features are exactly the same. Then of course there are going to be game breaking issues. Can we assume for a moment that they will actually attempt to be intelligent about how they will design the systems within a new TES MMO?
Sheesh. It can still be TES without the exact same systems.
I think if you take the entire game as a whole and ask someone whether it's a sandbox or themepark oriented game, the answer is obvious. So yes, indications would be that a MMO with the ES IP would gravitate closer to sandbox than themepark. The opposite is nearly impossible to argue.
It may end up being closer to WoW. I personally don't have that opinion, but it's possible. Though, again, you are confusing me with the FPV bit. The first four games had FPV. The last, Skyrim, had a very functional TPV. So, by their design, ES isn't ES because of FPV. And again, it can have some themepark features, but still be a sandbox. You did it again.
Neither one of us know how they are designing it. In fact, neither one of us knows whether or not this article is even true. We can wait and see. I'm not about to attach 'fail' to it yet though.
The only developer left from Mythic who hasn't ruined his reputation is working on this one. Maybe he was the guy with all the good ideas (that's what most ex-DAoC fans hope for).
3-faction system is good.
No modders to fix the broken/half-assed/poorly realized game designs.
The WoW influence is stronger than heroin in MMO development. Can Bethesda resist?
If they use a DX9 engine again, they can kindly fuck themselves sideways.
Bethesda have been Microsoft's console bitch since they bailed the 360 out with a AAA title for the launch. Do they remember how to make a proper PC game?
Will they listen to the only developer left from Mythic who hasn't ruined his reputation? He may be the guy with all the good ideas after all.
^ this
Sums up my exact feelings.
This could be epic and awesome, or it could just as easily be a major let down. I'm done investing emotion into unrealeased titles anymore, so I'll stay neutral on this one until I get to see it in operation.
That's so not true (and you know it, if you know where any of the 'ex'- DAOC devs are)
whoa. UO and SWG were made and sold at a different time in the "era" of mmo's. They were early games and were adopted by geeks who just loved the idea of playing online games. The landscape has changed now. Does that mean a sandbox game would do poorly? Well, when I read in lotro chat that a player found the game too unfocused and needed more guidance to find the quest hubs it makes me wonder.
If you are going to make an assessment about whether or not sandbox games would do well you might want to consider what the current audience is about.
EVE is it's own bird, is successful for many reasons but I doubt that it being a sandbox game is the only reason. Also, it was made at an earlier time, garnered a loyal following and built from there.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo