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Just can't do it.

airicairic LAKEWOOD, CAPosts: 16Member

I have lurked around the Mortal forums for awhile, And after playing Darkfall for a few months and getting burnt out on the grind then moving to SWTOR  and burning through content, I finally decided to give Mortal a shot.

 

First off the Graphics are horrible reguardless of what settings you have them set to, and to be honest I could get over that if the game play was at least decent. The UI is horrible!!!!! not even remotely intuitive. I know its unfair to judge a game so quickly but Holy &^$% this is bad. I never even really got to game play because I couldn't get over how bad everthing else looks.

Darkfall has its issues but it is leaps and bound ahead of this game.

Guess I will have to continue holding my breath waiting for a decently made sandbox.

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  • LexiteLexite Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QCPosts: 165Member

    Originally posted by airic

    I have lurked around the Mortal forums for awhile, And after playing Darkfall for a few months and getting burnt out on the grind then moving to SWTOR  and burning through content, I finally decided to give Mortal a shot.

     

    First off the Graphics are horrible reguardless of what settings you have them set to, and to be honest I could get over that if the game play was at least decent. The UI is horrible!!!!! not even remotely intuitive. I know its unfair to judge a game so quickly but Holy &^$% this is bad. I never even really got to game play because I couldn't get over how bad everthing else looks.

    Darkfall has its issues but it is leaps and bound ahead of this game.

    Guess I will have to continue holding my breath waiting for a decently made sandbox.

    To each their own I guess. I decided 2 weeks ago with my brother to download MO again ( i was in BETA) just to laugh since it was shitty as hell during the beta. We started and i cant stop playing, i just brough 5 new RL friends into the game today. 

    I rerolled my fighting character since I just noticed It was gimped for pvp, and IT IS slow at the beginning, you just need to give it a shot.

    Like ive said, i cant stop playing, i just bough 2 accounts and im also currently playing swtor.

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  • D_I_BD_I_B PiastPosts: 43Member

    Yeah MO surely kicks ya in the balls right at the begining... Graphics are not so bad but the world feels empty... everything burned down and destroyed, everyones dirty and theres filth everywhere... The first couple of days is just grind grind grind in your chosen city and trading your wood and ore for some skillbooks.

     

    Id LOVE to have like SINGLE PLAYER TUTORIAL on this game:P

    well ive learned it the hard way... then i realised you need to buy an retail and then sub - its not a problem for me but - for a product of this quality (its hardly a beta) they should drop sub to around 5$ or so... Just say'in

  • LexiteLexite Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QCPosts: 165Member

    Originally posted by D_I_B

    Yeah MO surely kicks ya in the balls right at the begining... Graphics are not so bad but the world feels empty... everything burned down and destroyed, everyones dirty and theres filth everywhere... The first couple of days is just grind grind grind in your chosen city and trading your wood and ore for some skillbooks.

     

    Id LOVE to have like SINGLE PLAYER TUTORIAL on this game:P

    well ive learned it the hard way... then i realised you need to buy an retail and then sub - its not a problem for me but - for a product of this quality (its hardly a beta) they should drop sub to around 5$ or so... Just say'in

    It was a broken beta game, now it is just a good game needin a lot of work.

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  • GwahlurGwahlur BergenPosts: 198Member Uncommon

    I'd say try it again after the UI-overhaul that comes with awakening, that's my plan at least

  • JakdstripperJakdstripper logan lake, BCPosts: 2,126Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by D_I_B

    Yeah MO surely kicks ya in the balls right at the begining...

      

    ...so then you progress to the middle where you find a buch of exploiters, and.....they kick you in the balls.

    .....so then you call a GM to help you out, and.....he kicks you in the balls.

    ......so then you go to the forums to complain about the GMs, and.....the mod kicks you in the balls.

     

     

    no, but really, besides that this game is fun.

  • PancakeEffctPancakeEffct IHOPPosts: 42Member

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

  • GwahlurGwahlur BergenPosts: 198Member Uncommon

    What OP and what friend? Did you read the OP?

     

    Go back to posting on your regular account pls, your posts are too tempting to reply to and it annoys me to get trolled like this :p

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Parma, OHPosts: 2,404Member

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    Yeah, with other people here, I'm not sure if these posts are just trolling or not...

     

    I'll bite I guess.  If the terrain and sky were the only thing that had to do with graphics... I'd say MO has DF beat.  The problem is that there are many other things to consider when talking about a graphics engine.  The buildings, cities, objects within the game look as if they were just thrown down.  Going into a city, nothing looks as if it's actually meant to be there.  There's little to no artistic talent with their design team in my opinion.  I've seen better world design with NWN player servers.  Characters glide, twitch, and warp all over the screen at times.  The animations are some of the worst in modern MMO's.  The prediction is still horrendous in my opinion.  There are still flying pigs.  There are cheaters everywhere, and the GM's aren't much better.  The UI, which is part of the graphics system, is also poorly done and incomplete in some areas.  It's horribly unfriendly to new players.  Well, I'm getting off topic.. so I'll stop.  When using an engine that TERA uses, you should get TERA like graphics out of it.  Problem here is, they have a bunch of 12 yr old kids designing their world and UI.  Or, at least that level of talent.

     

    Most of what I said has something to do with the graphics though, as terrain and sky, quite obviously, does not tell the entire story.

  • deathshrouddeathshroud londonPosts: 1,366Member

    Originally posted by DAS1337

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    Yeah, with other people here, I'm not sure if these posts are just trolling or not...

     

    I'll bite I guess.  If the terrain and sky were the only thing that had to do with graphics... I'd say MO has DF beat.  The problem is that there are many other things to consider when talking about a graphics engine.  The buildings, cities, objects within the game look as if they were just thrown down.  Going into a city, nothing looks as if it's actually meant to be there.  There's little to no artistic talent with their design team in my opinion.  I've seen better world design with NWN player servers.  Characters glide, twitch, and warp all over the screen at times.  The animations are some of the worst in modern MMO's.  The prediction is still horrendous in my opinion.  There are still flying pigs.  There are cheaters everywhere, and the GM's aren't much better.  The UI, which is part of the graphics system, is also poorly done and incomplete in some areas.  It's horribly unfriendly to new players.  Well, I'm getting off topic.. so I'll stop.  When using an engine that TERA uses, you should get TERA like graphics out of it.  Problem here is, they have a bunch of 12 yr old kids designing their world and UI.  Or, at least that level of talent.

     

    Most of what I said has something to do with the graphics though, as terrain and sky, quite obviously, does not tell the entire story.

     yet even with all this it still looks better than darkfall and most people agree.

    simply comparing both games screenshots section proves this

    http://www.eu.darkfallonline.com/default.php?pname=Media&gid=1&cid=12

    http://www.mortalonline.com/screenshots

     

    MO has many issues but its graphics really arent one of them. Also darkfalls animations are even worse.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • ToferioToferio RandomPosts: 1,404Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by deathshroud

     

     yet even with all this it still looks better than darkfall and most people agree.

    simply comparing both games screenshots section proves this

    http://www.eu.darkfallonline.com/default.php?pname=Media&gid=1&cid=12

    http://www.mortalonline.com/screenshots

     

    MO has many issues but its graphics really arent one of them. Also darkfalls animations are even worse.

    Not sure I can agree. I am almost inclined to say that I like DF visuals more because they got a certain style while MO just seems to try and mash together as realistic looking model as possible. Animations are horrible in DF, but they are hardly much better in MO.

  • argiropargirop AthensPosts: 300Member

    Originally posted by Rabidz

    I would say skip the free trial and just BUY THE GAME and sub. Yes, its really THAT good.

    Your advertisement is getting worse and worse. How can you say to someone "skip the trial and buy the game"?

    You really need to come to your senses but apparently its not such a big deal for you since you can make more than one accounts as you did with your Alter Ego StJudas. 

  • deathshrouddeathshroud londonPosts: 1,366Member

    his posts are pretty retarded, im almost convinced hes a hateboi disgussing himself as a fanboi since hes doing more damage than good.

     

    Of coruse people should try the trial and that goes for any mmo before subbing.

     

    dont get me wrong i do like mo and look forward to awakening myself. Im currently unsubbed but will try the new expansion out. But MO has issues and people have a right to be a little wary dependant on their previous mmo experience. But MO has alot to offer still if its your sort of game and the trial is perfect for finding that out.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • youngkgyoungkg dallas, TXPosts: 357Member

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    The Detail and graphics in DF are way better than MO lol...

     

    I loved the UO Skill progression system but thats it thats all...op pretty much touched on all my dislikes but the combat system.

     

    Make the comparrison for yourself.

    DF

    http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/albums/visuals/location_02.jpg

    http://honoriscausa.info/pages/gallery/gallery/dc_01.jpg

    MO

    http://lagwar.com/home/wp-content/uploads/Mortal-Online-dead.jpg

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/codyman2005/MortalOnline2010-06-1815-09-39-63.jpg

  • argiropargirop AthensPosts: 300Member

    Originally posted by deathshroud

    his posts are pretty retarded, im almost convinced hes a hateboi disgussing himself as a fanboi since hes doing more damage than good.

     

    Of coruse people should try the trial and that goes for any mmo before subbing.

     

    dont get me wrong i do like mo and look forward to awakening myself. Im currently unsubbed but will try the new expansion out. But MO has issues and people have a right to be a little wary dependant on their previous mmo experience. But MO has alot to offer still if its your sort of game and the trial is perfect for finding that out.

    Indeed his posts are over the top. When i ve read his "i m honored comparing me with a man of great taste like StJudas" part almost choke myself to death with a zip of cofee that came out through my nose. I m still coughing. He gives a feeling like he is Tizio under heavy drugs and... ten years ago!

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,008Member Uncommon
    What Rabidz/StJudas fail to realize is best way to promote a "challenged" title like MO is to highlight it's good features while at the same time honestly ackowledging it's faults. It keeps their opinions honest rather than coming off like marketing shills (or even trolls in disguise).
    As it stands now their posts are doing more harm than good.

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  • BiskopBiskop AvalonPosts: 709Member

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    What Rabidz/StJudas fail to realize is best way to promote a "challenged" title like MO is to highlight it's good features while at the same time honestly ackowledging it's faults. It keeps their opinions honest rather than coming off like marketing shills (or even trolls in disguise).

     

    As it stands now their posts are doing more harm than good.

     

    And that's clearly just what he's aiming for.

    A serious trolling effort and pretty entertaining at that, but it's getting old by now.

  • Cyde77Cyde77 WakefieldPosts: 101Member

    Originally posted by Rabidz

    I would say skip the free trial and just BUY THE GAME and sub. Yes, its really THAT good.

    Jesus christ youre worse than the haters.

  • Cyde77Cyde77 WakefieldPosts: 101Member

    Originally posted by youngkg

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    The Detail and graphics in DF are way better than MO lol...

     

    I loved the UO Skill progression system but thats it thats all...op pretty much touched on all my dislikes but the combat system.

     

    Make the comparrison for yourself.

    DF

    http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/albums/visuals/location_02.jpg

    http://honoriscausa.info/pages/gallery/gallery/dc_01.jpg

    MO

    http://lagwar.com/home/wp-content/uploads/Mortal-Online-dead.jpg

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/codyman2005/MortalOnline2010-06-1815-09-39-63.jpg



    Beta screenshots, gg.

  • LustienLustien London, NEPosts: 32Member

    Originally posted by Cyde77

    Originally posted by youngkg


    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    The Detail and graphics in DF are way better than MO lol...

     

    I loved the UO Skill progression system but thats it thats all...op pretty much touched on all my dislikes but the combat system.

     

    Make the comparrison for yourself.

    DF

    http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/albums/visuals/location_02.jpg

    http://honoriscausa.info/pages/gallery/gallery/dc_01.jpg

    MO

    http://lagwar.com/home/wp-content/uploads/Mortal-Online-dead.jpg

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/codyman2005/MortalOnline2010-06-1815-09-39-63.jpg



    Beta screenshots, gg.

    Is this guy serious?

    SO yeah you have your DF PICS

    DF

    http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/albums/visuals/location_02.jpg

    http://honoriscausa.info/pages/gallery/gallery/dc_01.jpg

     

    Mortal Online

    here some up 2 date mortal online pics.

    http://www.mortalonline.com/files/screenshots/Dawn_06.jpg

    http://www.mortalonline.com/files/screenshots/Dawn_34.jpg

    http://www.mortalonline.com/files/screenshots/Dawn_07.jpg

    http://www.mortalonline.com/files/screenshots/winner_Dec_2010.png

    http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/RichardS25/rHODRI.jpg?t=1316249746

    http://www.mortalonline.com/files/screenshots/winner_Mar_2011.jpg

     

     

  • psykobillypsykobilly NYC, NYPosts: 338Member

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    Certain things are OK in Mortal, but you have to admit it is pretty bad.

    First of all, there are giant seams in the terrain in Mortal that rip the world apart.  What's more - the artist often did not match up the corresponding meshes so you can see where the terrain should fit together but it is 10 feet off.  It's not a big deal for me, but it looks sloppy and it is immersion breaking.

    Second, Mortal does not have proper bloom.  The Darkfall world is completely covered by bloom so that even though the graphics are not amazing, the world feels alive in _every_ corner.  Mortal is a relatively lifeless world that often looks like a giant golf course.  The terrain is covered by jagged polygons any time there is a hill or mountain, these look aweful and really need smoothing out.  There is no real forest even, the old colored forest feels like an orchard planted by people and the new jungle is a pale shadow of its former self.  It feels like the devs need to get out in the wilderness more, because it seems they have never been there.  The Darkfall world is much more immersive.

    Third, plants and trees are not anchored properly in Mortal.  Who hasn't seen bushes floating in the air or too far under ground and grass springing from inside a house or keep.

    Fourth, water graphics are really poor in Mortal.  The surface textures at high settings don't compare to Darkfall.  Water is murky when you are inside it, but from the outside you can see through the water like it is crystal clear.

    Mortal graphics could be better than Darkfall, but they aren't due to lack of art development.  I'd much prefer fully immersive graphics that are not the best, over barren wasteland style graphics that look better but don't feel better.

     

  • myndziussmyndziuss KaunasPosts: 26Member

    Lol just face it, darkfall is almost dead now. Mortal is the future



     

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  • kakasakikakasaki Lockhart, TXPosts: 1,205Member

    Originally posted by stjudas

    Originally posted by myndziuss

    Lol just face it, darkfall is almost dead now. Mortal is the future

     

    AMEN brother!

    Did I miss something or is MO/SV worship a new religion?

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  • psykobillypsykobilly NYC, NYPosts: 338Member

    Originally posted by kakasaki

    Originally posted by stjudas


    Originally posted by myndziuss

    Lol just face it, darkfall is almost dead now. Mortal is the future

     

    AMEN brother!

    Did I miss something or is MO/SV worship a new religion?

    There's not a lot going on in scandinavia apparently.

     

  • XarnthalXarnthal Landenberg, PAPosts: 130Member

    Originally posted by airic

    I have lurked around the Mortal forums for awhile, And after playing Darkfall for a few months and getting burnt out on the grind then moving to SWTOR  and burning through content, I finally decided to give Mortal a shot.

     

    First off the Graphics are horrible reguardless of what settings you have them set to, and to be honest I could get over that if the game play was at least decent. The UI is horrible!!!!! not even remotely intuitive. I know its unfair to judge a game so quickly but Holy &^$% this is bad. I never even really got to game play because I couldn't get over how bad everthing else looks.

    Darkfall has its issues but it is leaps and bound ahead of this game.

    Guess I will have to continue holding my breath waiting for a decently made sandbox.

    I had the same issues when I tried to jump into Mortal, it really was like a bad version of Darkfall. The problem is that the Mortal Dev's seem to be light years ahead of the Darkfall Dev's when it comes to the community.

     

    If you don't mind the wait I'd suggest looking into Archeage. While it may not have the best combat system, it does look pretty awesome in every other aspect. If you played SWTOR then you can deal with some of the more mainstream themepark elements that it has in the game. I think they're trying to attract the sandbox community as well as the large MMO themepark community.

    Just watch this video in 1080p and I don't see how you can think this game isn't awesome.

    Sennheiser
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  • DixonHillDixonHill SchleswigPosts: 154Member

    Originally posted by DAS1337

    Originally posted by PancakeEffct

    You must have your settings on low. Because if you played darkfall, there is no way in hell you can say MO graphics are bad. I don't even like Mortal Online. But to say it had bad graphics AFTER you came from darkfall tells me you never played MO. Completly ridiculous, I don't care if darkfall was the best game ever, I uninstalled it after 10 min of trial because of how aweful the graphics were. I even ran CCleaner to get any reniments of that crap off my computer. MO has pretty decent graphics, just horribly written with memory leaks etc.

    Yeah, with other people here, I'm not sure if these posts are just trolling or not...

     

    I'll bite I guess.  If the terrain and sky were the only thing that had to do with graphics... I'd say MO has DF beat.  The problem is that there are many other things to consider when talking about a graphics engine.  The buildings, cities, objects within the game look as if they were just thrown down.  Going into a city, nothing looks as if it's actually meant to be there.  There's little to no artistic talent with their design team in my opinion.  I've seen better world design with NWN player servers.  Characters glide, twitch, and warp all over the screen at times.  The animations are some of the worst in modern MMO's.  The prediction is still horrendous in my opinion.  There are still flying pigs.  There are cheaters everywhere, and the GM's aren't much better.  The UI, which is part of the graphics system, is also poorly done and incomplete in some areas.  It's horribly unfriendly to new players.  Well, I'm getting off topic.. so I'll stop.  When using an engine that TERA uses, you should get TERA like graphics out of it.  Problem here is, they have a bunch of 12 yr old kids designing their world and UI.  Or, at least that level of talent.

     

    Most of what I said has something to do with the graphics though, as terrain and sky, quite obviously, does not tell the entire story.

    Indeed. When i played the trial, i was in a starting city called...Toxai or something. However, most of what i was looking at was really ugly and poorly made. While some of the assets are nice, also the mountains far away, other stuff is just plain ugly. The terrain itself is poorly sculpted, also many textures seem to be painted in a hurry which results in ugly  and illogical looking roads, rivers, etc.

    This has not really something todo with the capabilities of the engine or something, more with the amateurish use of the tools at hand. 

    I also looked at screenshots and i am willing to believe that other parts of the world are better made and look better, but what i saw so far ---> not so good :/

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