I voted GW2.. s if it pulls off some of the stuff it claims well it could be revolutionary. I will keep my fingers crossed, However Hope for the best, while prepare for the worst that way there will be less dissappointment if it doesnt deliver.
We have a Korean Sandbox MMO with no projected NA release... We have an MMO made by Funcom, who gave us the remarkable Age of Conan... I will no doubt love GW2 for casual gameplay. But, like GW1, it's not likely I'll be able to make it a primary MMO. Tera has interest, yet... I don't know.. Wildstar doesn't have any release-date projection as far as I can see... And I don't like cartoon graphics... WoW? That's a laugh. No matter how many times my friends try to get me involved I give up before level 15...
Neverwinter looks like it might be intersting. But, in my experience, DnD rules never really seem to work-out for computer games unless they're pure turn-based. MechWarrior Online, if they do a good job with the 'feel' of combat... I could see playing Mechwarrior Online for some laughs... Maybe they'd even make it interesting for the long-term...
But I'll have to go "I don't know..." The last good story/PvE/social/crafting MMO that I played was LOTRO. There've a been a few near-misses from some indie's/small developers, like Fallen Earth... Rift is borderline... Somewhat fun, but all the rifts all over all the time get tedious... But at least Rift did get you into a bit of socializing and coopertive play...
Ugh... The current state of the MMO market just depresses me... But the AAA guys have all sucked butt for years... I've played the heck out of the good ones (at least good for me) and I just can't go back... Yet everything I've tried in the past six months has been pure crap, with SWTOR being the biggest piece of crap of all...
Sometimes I think I should go backward and explore games like DAoC... Maybe get back into Eve Online... Perhaps Vanguard... Because right now, I can't think of anything released relatively recently is better than any of those...
-Archeage looks promising too, but combat looks very 2004 standard as well as questing - but will the sandbox elements make up for that? I don't know - for me, I don't care if I can build a forest/castle or hang glide if I am forced to grind levels in a quest hub "kill 10 rats" with tab targetting.
They kind of seem to be throwing in just about every system in every other MMO - rifts, naval combat, keep/castle sieging... would be cool if they pull it off but maybe biting off a lot more than they can chew like DF did?
Another thing about all that $$$ is that $30 million stretches much farther in S.Korea than it does in the West. The salaries of quality game developers over there is about half of what game devs are paid here in the West, at least according to this poster (no citation where he/she is getting the info., but the point they make seems legit based upon other things I've read about S.Korea's economy). He/she also rightfully points out that S.Korean game devs likely work more hours for less pay than their Western counterparts. I'll just put the relevant section of their post, though like I said, there is no explanation for where the info. comes from:
XLGames (Jake Songs new company) started with $300m won (30million us)for the initial budget of the development of ArcheAge, but has gotten export contracts for ArcheAge in several countries. Now he sits on top of $600m won+ extra funds/credits he can choose to utilize. With this much funding they decided to upgrade Archeage to Cry Engine 3.
That's right ArcheAge has a huge budget.
Remember, $300m is like $600m ~ $1200m if spent on game developers in korea. They get nearly half the salary compared to western developers while they work atleast twice more hours with no extra payments.
Being in that kind of position is Aventurine's wetdream....
Oh, and did I mention Jake Song...? Because, seriously, he's mutha*)$)ing Jake Song, yo!.... and I'd be SHOCKED if one of the major creative talents behind one of the most important MMO's ever (for Korea and the whole world) isn't making sure the first major title of his new company is a smashing success.
Now, with all that being said, I didn't pick AA because, as others have pointed out, we probably won't see it until 2013 here in the West (that's if we're *lucky*). So, I guess if I have to pick a title from the OP's choices, it will be GW2 and/or TSW. I'd like to see Tera do well too, if only to show devs that MMORPG's can deviate from the "norm" as far as combat systems go, but having played Aion and seeing how similar the quest system is in both games (i.e., bland), I think Tera will have a real uphill battle.
That's not to say AA's questing doesn't look bland because, frankly, it does. But all of the other features you allude to are what that game is going to be about, at least to those who are playing it as a sandbox. I've read beta testers who explain you can actually make real progress in the game crafting, building, farming, gathering, etc. (and I don't mean the kind of minimal progress you saw in Aion from crafting either). If that's really true is yet to be seen, but for me, the stars are aligning for AA to be a breakout title for the resurgence of sandbox titles (as long as they can find a Western publisher, which seems probable given the game's development with a "western audience" in mind).
If all those games came out on the same day and I had to choose one...
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Couple others I will probably play but not counting on them being anything new, yes that includes GW2. I think making a PvP game and removing the healing class is very bad for the game.
I voted TSW. But you know you missed SW:TOR on that list. It's release was too close to 2012 to be counted in 2011 as determined by everyone on these forums, so you have to include it as a 2012 launch. Not that many on these forums would vote for it, but it still should be in contention.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Guild Wars 2 has my vote. I'm sick with the MMO genre for a few years espacially with my bad experience/expectations/deception with SWTOR and all the WOW clones.
Its gotta be ArcheAge. That game has more features than SWTOR, GW2, and TSW combined and thats just from beta videos. Not to mention they have full disclosure and everything we see is in game and being played by testers.
When you look at the player freedom in that game, it just puts everything else to shame.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
We are not even half way into 2012, most of 2012 mmos havent launched yet.. give it more time.. and make this poll at the end of year.
Then we will be able to vote better.
Or unearth this thread again at the end of 2012 and see how many of us have changed our minds.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Well ArcheAge won't see a western 2012 release, so hard to count that, else i would. It's still closed beta for Korea and a few months away there. An average of a year for localization...you're looking at 2013 easily.
Well like I said, these are just my assumptions. So vote as pretending that these games would actually be released in 2012, even if you think it wont.
hehe no, thats silly Yam... you asked about 2012 and then you ask us to pretend certain games are released in that time frame to shoehorn them in?
We are not even half way into 2012, most of 2012 mmos havent launched yet.. give it more time.. and make this poll at the end of year.
Then we will be able to vote better.
He asks what you believe will be the best.
I personally like these type of early polls... it always makes interesting comparisons with the reality at the end of the year.
just to name a few.. some of wich will probably be pretty popular.. who knows. Too early.. to believe..
Well, I was aware of all the extra ones you mentioned and I believe, as of now, that GW2 will be the stand out game of the year. Maybe that will turn out to not be the case, but, like I say, that what makes these early polls interesting.
I don't see why you folks have to always take a contrary posistion on everything... theres nothing wrong with just playing along now and again y'know?
Playing: Darkfall New Dawn (and planning to play Fallout 76) Favourite games have included: UO, Lineage2, Darkfall, Lotro, Baldur's Gate, SSX, FF7 and yes the original Wizardry on an Apple IIe
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I voted GW2.. s if it pulls off some of the stuff it claims well it could be revolutionary. I will keep my fingers crossed, However Hope for the best, while prepare for the worst that way there will be less dissappointment if it doesnt deliver.
We have a Korean Sandbox MMO with no projected NA release... We have an MMO made by Funcom, who gave us the remarkable Age of Conan... I will no doubt love GW2 for casual gameplay. But, like GW1, it's not likely I'll be able to make it a primary MMO. Tera has interest, yet... I don't know.. Wildstar doesn't have any release-date projection as far as I can see... And I don't like cartoon graphics... WoW? That's a laugh. No matter how many times my friends try to get me involved I give up before level 15...
Neverwinter looks like it might be intersting. But, in my experience, DnD rules never really seem to work-out for computer games unless they're pure turn-based. MechWarrior Online, if they do a good job with the 'feel' of combat... I could see playing Mechwarrior Online for some laughs... Maybe they'd even make it interesting for the long-term...
But I'll have to go "I don't know..." The last good story/PvE/social/crafting MMO that I played was LOTRO. There've a been a few near-misses from some indie's/small developers, like Fallen Earth... Rift is borderline... Somewhat fun, but all the rifts all over all the time get tedious... But at least Rift did get you into a bit of socializing and coopertive play...
Ugh... The current state of the MMO market just depresses me... But the AAA guys have all sucked butt for years... I've played the heck out of the good ones (at least good for me) and I just can't go back... Yet everything I've tried in the past six months has been pure crap, with SWTOR being the biggest piece of crap of all...
Sometimes I think I should go backward and explore games like DAoC... Maybe get back into Eve Online... Perhaps Vanguard... Because right now, I can't think of anything released relatively recently is better than any of those...
Mentioning AA in the same context of DF? Really?
AA has something that DF will never have = Jake Song ( not to mention piles and piles of cash: "The budget of the game is 25 million dollars. 15 million of investments from GigaMedia and 10 million from [XL Games'] budget." ~http://archeagesource.com/topic/26-all-that-we-know-about-archeage/ <--a legit source that cites another legit source, http://www.aaportal.net ).
Another thing about all that $$$ is that $30 million stretches much farther in S.Korea than it does in the West. The salaries of quality game developers over there is about half of what game devs are paid here in the West, at least according to this poster (no citation where he/she is getting the info., but the point they make seems legit based upon other things I've read about S.Korea's economy). He/she also rightfully points out that S.Korean game devs likely work more hours for less pay than their Western counterparts. I'll just put the relevant section of their post, though like I said, there is no explanation for where the info. comes from:
XLGames (Jake Songs new company) started with $300m won (30million us)for the initial budget of the development of ArcheAge, but has gotten export contracts for ArcheAge in several countries. Now he sits on top of $600m won+ extra funds/credits he can choose to utilize. With this much funding they decided to upgrade Archeage to Cry Engine 3.
That's right ArcheAge has a huge budget.
Remember, $300m is like $600m ~ $1200m if spent on game developers in korea. They get nearly half the salary compared to western developers while they work atleast twice more hours with no extra payments.
Being in that kind of position is Aventurine's wetdream....
Oh, and did I mention Jake Song...? Because, seriously, he's mutha*)$)ing Jake Song, yo!.... and I'd be SHOCKED if one of the major creative talents behind one of the most important MMO's ever (for Korea and the whole world) isn't making sure the first major title of his new company is a smashing success.
Now, with all that being said, I didn't pick AA because, as others have pointed out, we probably won't see it until 2013 here in the West (that's if we're *lucky*). So, I guess if I have to pick a title from the OP's choices, it will be GW2 and/or TSW. I'd like to see Tera do well too, if only to show devs that MMORPG's can deviate from the "norm" as far as combat systems go, but having played Aion and seeing how similar the quest system is in both games (i.e., bland), I think Tera will have a real uphill battle.
That's not to say AA's questing doesn't look bland because, frankly, it does. But all of the other features you allude to are what that game is going to be about, at least to those who are playing it as a sandbox. I've read beta testers who explain you can actually make real progress in the game crafting, building, farming, gathering, etc. (and I don't mean the kind of minimal progress you saw in Aion from crafting either). If that's really true is yet to be seen, but for me, the stars are aligning for AA to be a breakout title for the resurgence of sandbox titles (as long as they can find a Western publisher, which seems probable given the game's development with a "western audience" in mind).
Shouldn't this poll be named "Which MMOG of 2012 has the Best Hype"
Honestly thats like selecting the oscars for movies from the previews before the movies are even out.
Darkfall 2.0 if it's released.
If all those games came out on the same day and I had to choose one...
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
voted archeage, even if the localization wont happen till 2013, ill be playing the korean version this year
Voted AA! If it ever gets to the west.
Couple others I will probably play but not counting on them being anything new, yes that includes GW2. I think making a PvP game and removing the healing class is very bad for the game.
TSW I will play to see how deep the world goes.
a tie between GW2 and MoP, with TSW right on their backs
I voted TSW. But you know you missed SW:TOR on that list. It's release was too close to 2012 to be counted in 2011 as determined by everyone on these forums, so you have to include it as a 2012 launch. Not that many on these forums would vote for it, but it still should be in contention.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
as a tester of tera and gw2
tera is 100 times better than gw2
ArchAge is by far the best game ever not just 2012 but will we see it anytime soon?
TERA, GW2 are also good games but they are still themeparks that look like closed circles compared to how open and what you can do in ArchAge.
Guild Wars 2 has my vote. I'm sick with the MMO genre for a few years espacially with my bad experience/expectations/deception with SWTOR and all the WOW clones.
Its gotta be ArcheAge. That game has more features than SWTOR, GW2, and TSW combined and thats just from beta videos. Not to mention they have full disclosure and everything we see is in game and being played by testers.
When you look at the player freedom in that game, it just puts everything else to shame.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
ArcheAge for me, though I doubt it'll be released this year. 2nd place is for GW2 (gonna buy it)
I can't choose between GW2 and TSW.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
We are not even half way into 2012, most of 2012 mmos havent launched yet.. give it more time.. and make this poll at the end of year.
Then we will be able to vote better.
Or unearth this thread again at the end of 2012 and see how many of us have changed our minds.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
hehe no, thats silly Yam... you asked about 2012 and then you ask us to pretend certain games are released in that time frame to shoehorn them in?
Discounted AA and voted for GW2.
Ask me again in 2013 about Archeage.
He asks what you believe will be the best.
I personally like these type of early polls... it always makes interesting comparisons with the reality at the end of the year.
EVE of course, nothing so far touches it in scope, vision and damn sexiness.
Perpetuum might come in after
well.. the poll is presented like:
Archage --- ok
Guild Wars 2 ---- ok
Secret World ---- ok
Tera ---- ok
Wildstar ---- ok
WOW: Mists of Pandoria ---- is this a new MMO ? since when? <---- i dont believe this is a new 2012 mmo
Other ( specify ) ---- There are a loadcrap of new MMO coming in 2012 that were not included in the poll:
- Mechwarrior Online,
- Firefall,
- Neverwinter,
- Jagged Alliance Online,
- XCOM UFO Online,
- World of Darkness etc etc..
just to name a few.. some of wich will probably be pretty popular.. who knows. Too early.. to believe..
Well, I was aware of all the extra ones you mentioned and I believe, as of now, that GW2 will be the stand out game of the year. Maybe that will turn out to not be the case, but, like I say, that what makes these early polls interesting.
I don't see why you folks have to always take a contrary posistion on everything... theres nothing wrong with just playing along now and again y'know?
Agreed
Playing: Darkfall New Dawn (and planning to play Fallout 76)
Favourite games have included: UO, Lineage2, Darkfall, Lotro, Baldur's Gate, SSX, FF7 and yes the original Wizardry on an Apple IIe
It was a close run between TSW and AA. But AA's feature list and plethora of vids won in the end.
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