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mark2123mark2123 LondonPosts: 308Member Uncommon
and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on?

I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends.

So, would you do it???
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  • El-HefeEl-Hefe Yakima, WAPosts: 609Member

    it is touted as a pvp game isnt it?

    I've got the straight edge.

  • El-HefeEl-Hefe Yakima, WAPosts: 609Member

    but no i wouldnt. i would tell them so the temptation would go away.

    I've got the straight edge.

  • SolarstrikerSolarstriker Odense NVPosts: 26Member Uncommon

    Eve is full of the worst backstabing scum ever.

    500m isnt much anyways. :P

  • SolarstrikerSolarstriker Odense NVPosts: 26Member Uncommon

    I wouldnt either :)

  • MajinashMajinash st louis, MOPosts: 1,320Member

    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Then you sound like the kind of person they want in their corp.  Hopefully the others there share that trait with you, having a corp you can trust makes the game far more fun.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • AdamTMAdamTM Frankfurt Am MainPosts: 1,376Member

    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

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  • CalfisCalfis Brooklyn, NYPosts: 352Member

    Originally posted by AdamTM

    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

    This is the most legit answer.

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  • AdamTMAdamTM Frankfurt Am MainPosts: 1,376Member

    Originally posted by Calfis

    Originally posted by AdamTM


    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

    This is the most legit answer.

    I mean its so obvious, 500M in the corp vault?

    Thats peanuts, around that amount that should be going in the corp-vault -daily- (obviously depending on corp-size)

    Let me guess, the hangars have some T2 equipment, a stash full of medium value ore and some blueprints? Yeah, its a trap.

    A reasonably seasoned player will have around 1 billion by himself, for a corp 500M is something you can loose to weed out the low-lvl scammers immediately.

     

    The real cash and equipment is probably held by the corp-leader or stashed away in safety (too many ways to count).

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  • kakasakikakasaki Lockhart, TXPosts: 1,205Member

    Originally posted by AdamTM

    Originally posted by Calfis


    Originally posted by AdamTM


    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

    This is the most legit answer.

    I mean its so obvious, 500M in the corp vault?

    Thats peanuts, around that amount that should be going in the corp-vault -daily- (obviously depending on corp-size)

    Let me guess, the hangars have some T2 equipment, a stash full of medium value ore and some blueprints? Yeah, its a trap.

    A reasonably seasoned player will have around 1 billion by himself, for a corp 500M is something you can loose to weed out the low-lvl scammers immediately.

     

    The real cash and equipment is probably held by the corp-leader or stashed away in safety (too many ways to count).

    Correct. I char is only a month old and I have about 500M ISK so yeah, two options:

     



    • A test to see how trustworthy you are.


    • Small time corp that is not worth joining.

    A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  • CalfisCalfis Brooklyn, NYPosts: 352Member

    Originally posted by kakasaki

    Originally posted by AdamTM


    Originally posted by Calfis


    Originally posted by AdamTM


    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

    This is the most legit answer.

    I mean its so obvious, 500M in the corp vault?

    Thats peanuts, around that amount that should be going in the corp-vault -daily- (obviously depending on corp-size)

    Let me guess, the hangars have some T2 equipment, a stash full of medium value ore and some blueprints? Yeah, its a trap.

    A reasonably seasoned player will have around 1 billion by himself, for a corp 500M is something you can loose to weed out the low-lvl scammers immediately.

     

    The real cash and equipment is probably held by the corp-leader or stashed away in safety (too many ways to count).

    Correct. I char is only a month old and I have about 500M ISK so yeah, two options:

     



    • A test to see how trustworthy you are.


    • Small time corp that is not worth joining.

    Since its highsec I'm actually inclined to lean towards the latter answer. 500M might be worth it to burn a highsec corp and get somewhat rich, "good" pvp corps wont give a damn if you have scammed in the past since it is unlikely they would give you the kind of access you would need to rob them blind.

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  • SlaverHoundSlaverHound Toronto, ONPosts: 109Member

    If they are cool people that I'd enjoy playing with then no I wouldn't steal.

    If my character's morals were not to steal then I wouldn't steal.

    If I created a character and made him with the intention of him/her being a dirty bastard I would run away with everything not locked down.

     

     

    "Lectroids? Planet 10? Nuclear extortion? A girl named "John"?

  • dave6660dave6660 New York, NYPosts: 2,543Member Uncommon

    There are people with morals in Eve now?  A lot has changed since I left. :)

    Regardless if you decide to rob them blind, I would not stay with them.  Being careless in Eve is not met with good results.  Assuming it's not test (which if it's a high sec corp then it's probably not), then they'll probably screw up again in the future and the next pilot may not be so honest.  Having the corp assets robbed is enough to destroy the corp.  Find a more competant corp.

     

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • dave6660dave6660 New York, NYPosts: 2,543Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by AdamTM

    Originally posted by mark2123

    and they made the mistake of giving you full access to all corp hangars instead of view only access, would you clear them out and move on? I've got a new char and only 2m isk. I have access to about 500m isk in the corp and could clear them out. My morals won't let me though as, what's the point and its not how to make friends. So, would you do it???

    Its a trap.

    Dont you mean...

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • EricDanieEricDanie Rio de JaneiroPosts: 2,238Member

    Are you enjoying your stay in the corp? If so, tell about the security issue and grow together with them.

  • haplo602haplo602 Posts: 212Member Uncommon

    look at it this way ... the next new join will do it when he does notice ... it may as well be you to profit. take all you can, transfer to another char, leave corp ....

  • mark2123mark2123 LondonPosts: 308Member Uncommon
    An interesting and varied set of replies to my post.

    Well, I've been in for a few days now and cannot bring myself to take anything - they are a fairly new and small corp and are so helpful and friendly. That means more to me that taking a load of ISK and making enemies. They've offered me the use of any ships, given me ISK to get me up and running and have helped me in every way.

    So, I told them about the free access and they said it was deliberate as I'm part of their gang now and this is my new home - quite refreshing in an MMO. But yes, not everyone joining will be as nice as me, though fortunately, the 500M in their hangar etc is not representative of everything they own and at least they are not treating me like a mining slave, where I work for nothing to get the CEO rich. I reckon a few corps could learn from that.

    Essentially, someone has to make the first move in terms of the trust thing and for a nice change, its the corp. It might seem niave, but they have obviously calculated that they can risk the 500M in return for my loyalty - which they are getting, so it worked.
  • n00n3rn00n3r Davison, MIPosts: 45Member

    I usually grant all new members  view & take rights to the lower level hangers, and usualy keep about 250M-500M worth of assets in it.  

    I call this the Darwin test.   Any person willing to take those assets when they can make that much back within a week or less running fleets with us is too stupid to keep around.  

     

    *fixed a couple grammar errors

  • GeroltGerolt PdamPosts: 98Member

    Dear OP,

     

    clear it out and move on. That's the spirit of Eve, following it will get you very far. You won't see them ever again so it doesn't matter. They're unattentive carebears. If you don't steal the stuff, somebody else will.

     

    And 500M aren't as little as people here say. It's worth it. I'd scam my own mother for that.

  • ArakaziArakazi OxfordPosts: 889Member

    I would leave the 500 million alone in hope of geting billions later, but thats me. 500 million is nothing these days... but I've played for a number of years and have a fat wallet.

  • AnthurAnthur StolbergPosts: 686Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by mark2123

    An interesting and varied set of replies to my post. Well, I've been in for a few days now and cannot bring myself to take anything - they are a fairly new and small corp and are so helpful and friendly. That means more to me that taking a load of ISK and making enemies. They've offered me the use of any ships, given me ISK to get me up and running and have helped me in every way. So, I told them about the free access and they said it was deliberate as I'm part of their gang now and this is my new home - quite refreshing in an MMO. But yes, not everyone joining will be as nice as me, though fortunately, the 500M in their hangar etc is not representative of everything they own and at least they are not treating me like a mining slave, where I work for nothing to get the CEO rich. I reckon a few corps could learn from that. Essentially, someone has to make the first move in terms of the trust thing and for a nice change, its the corp. It might seem niave, but they have obviously calculated that they can risk the 500M in return for my loyalty - which they are getting, so it worked.

    Sounds like a decent corp with helpful people. More worth than any amount of virtual currency imo.

  • nyxiumnyxium Posts: 1,222Member Uncommon

    Kaching. See you suckers!

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  • GarkanGarkan BirminghamPosts: 552Member

    500m isnt a lot so like others have said it could be a trap, or the corp could be a bunch of scrubs and cleaning the hanger out might bankrupt the corp. The third possible option is that they dont keep much in the hanger at all, hence giving the new member acsess straight away to take anything he needs because they dont care about whats in there.

    To answer the OPs question, what do you think of the guys in the corp? If they seem cool people and made you welcome and stuff its up to your consience. Personally I wouldnt take it if I was in your position if the people in the corp are OK, 500m isnt worth shafting some cool people over. If they are a bunch of tossers though burn em, 500m will at least set you up with some skillbooks and you can invest it in ways to earn more ISK.

    Currently playing:

    EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)

    Gravity Rush,
    Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.

    (Waiting for) Metro: Last Light,
    Company of Heroes II.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member

    A corp doesn't die because someone scams their lot, they die because people don't want to play EVE / play with each other.

    If a group of people like playing with each other, that corp will survive anything cause in-game assets can be reclaimed/re-aquired later.

    At the end of the day, this is just internet spaceships. :)

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • djmtottdjmtott Phoenix, AZPosts: 177Member

    My problem is that I've yet to find a good active corp that shares my interests during my playtimes. If I actually found a good one I'd never steal from them and risk ending that experience.

  • simmihisimmihi -Posts: 613Member Uncommon

    Rob them blind. Start a new char, transfer the goods, reapply to them again. Repeat.

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