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Can we agree to not label this a WoW killer?

PuremallacePuremallace Phoenix, AZPosts: 1,856Member

It is happening again. The hype is building and the haters are popping out of the wood work scared Tera is coming after their game. Here are some facts people. This game is Lineage 3. It was made for specific people.

 

. People who like Aion

. People who like the Lineage series and the devs who made it

. People who like fast action based burst combat based on FPS

 

Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

 

The only thing it has in common with a themepark is the quest and probably the end game raiding. This is already starting to  get ridiculous. We do not need peoples sob story about how Tera was not their personal WoW killer. I know I surely do not care and I seriously doubt others do.

 

We do not need the comparisons between Tera's voice acting and TOR's voice acting. Put down the pitch forks because En Masse never claimed it was a WoW killer or the zomg next best evoluion of mmorpgs. They only claimed it had fast paced combat which appears to be true.

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  • junzo316junzo316 Raleigh, NCPosts: 1,684Member Uncommon

    I highly doubt that it will be a WoW killer.  I even doubt that it will that popular in the west.

     

  • ShivamShivam MilanPosts: 465Member

    Tera was already labeled as WOW killer, just do a search and you will find ridiculous claims that were being made how this game is going to kill WOW. Some people just never learn and repeat same stupidity every time a new MMO is about to release.

    You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi

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  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,055Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    It is happening again. The hype is building and the haters are popping out of the wood work scared Tera is coming after their game. Here are some facts people. This game is Lineage 3. It was made for specific people.

     

    . People who like Aion

    . People who like the Lineage series and the devs who made it

    . People who like fast action based burst combat based on FPS

     

    Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

     

    The only thing it has in common with a themepark is the quest and probably the end game raiding. This is already starting to  get ridiculous. We do not need peoples sob story about how Tera was not their personal WoW killer. I know I surely do not care and I seriously doubt others do.

     

    We do not need the comparisons between Tera's voice acting and TOR's voice acting. Put down the pitch forks because En Masse never claimed it was a WoW killer or the zomg next best evoluion of mmorpgs. They only claimed it had fast paced combat which appears to be true.

    People that like WOW will hate TERA , that much is allready apparent.

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon

    There is no such thing as a WoW killer when 5-6 million (?) subs are in China.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,002Member Uncommon

    The folks over at NCSoft would take umbrage at your suggestion that it is Lineage 3, however if you can prove it I'm sure they'll be glad to compensate your help in their lawsuit against the Dev's of Terra.

    But one thing is for sure, this title has almost no chance of being a WOW killer, or even appealing to the segement of the market that enjoyed WOW.

     

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  • UtukuMoonUtukuMoon ParisPosts: 1,066Member

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    The folks over at NCSoft would take umbrage at your suggestion that it is Lineage 3, however if you can prove it I'm sure they'll be glad to compensate your help in their lawsuit against the Dev's of Terra.

    But one thing is for sure, this title has almost no chance of being a WOW killer, or even appealing to the segement of the market that enjoyed WOW.

     

    Which is a great thing.image

  • MajinashMajinash st louis, MOPosts: 1,320Member

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    But one thing is for sure, this title has almost no chance of being a WOW killer, or even appealing to the segement of the market that enjoyed WOW.

     

    Hey now.  I loved Lineage2, I enjoy WOW and I will be giving TERA a serious try in the hopes of it being Lineage3.  That is quite the sweeping statement.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • ShivamShivam MilanPosts: 465Member

    Originally posted by Sylvarii

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    The folks over at NCSoft would take umbrage at your suggestion that it is Lineage 3, however if you can prove it I'm sure they'll be glad to compensate your help in their lawsuit against the Dev's of Terra.

    But one thing is for sure, this title has almost no chance of being a WOW killer, or even appealing to the segement of the market that enjoyed WOW.

     

    Which is a great thing.image

    How many tiems i have heard that? other than its combat system... Tera plays like  typical themepark MMOS, so to say it won't appeal to WOW crowd is just absured.

    You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi

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  • ThaneThane berlinPosts: 2,232Member Uncommon
    yes, we can!

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member

    Originally posted by Shivam

    Originally posted by Sylvarii

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    The folks over at NCSoft would take umbrage at your suggestion that it is Lineage 3, however if you can prove it I'm sure they'll be glad to compensate your help in their lawsuit against the Dev's of Terra.

    But one thing is for sure, this title has almost no chance of being a WOW killer, or even appealing to the segement of the market that enjoyed WOW.

     

    Which is a great thing.image

    How many tiems i have heard that? other than its combat system... Tera plays like  typical themepark MMOS, so to say it won't appeal to WOW crowd is just absured.

    It depends...the difference in skill levels between players is apparent. I was watching some people play who were generally clickers and boy was it funny. Like i've stated in previous threads, I watched six people die to Arakia(not individually, it was a 6v1), they couldn't dodge or block for their life. While at the same time i've seen someone solo it. I myself could only get it to half health at best(no pots ;p).

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  • RavenRaven LondonPosts: 1,974Member Common

    Well I enjoyed L2 greatly and also enjoyed WoW greatly played both for 5+ years each, so yeah I do enjoy it.

    I am not the kind of person who cares about putting labels on things, theme park, sandbox, sand park, elite, carebear. If I like it I will play it, if I dont, I wont. TERA is definetly a game I enjoy, my only sadness is that it didnt run with the Lineage IP cause it would have been even more epic for me.

    Hopefully they will add some sieges later on. Good thing is I dont really care whether or not its successful, Korean games pays themselves at home that this will never close if anything it will go F2P which is ok. So it doesnt need to be the WoW killer at all nor will it be, but this game is def above average.

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  • arctarusarctarus nilPosts: 2,570Member Uncommon
    This is the first time I heard that this game is gona be a wow killer, seriously. This game serve a niche market with its non-tab targeting combat.

    RIP Orc Choppa

  • ColdicesColdices XPosts: 157Member

    Originally posted by Puremallace

     

    Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

     

    Agree 100%.

     

    It already acttracted a big crowd of ex-L2 players (like me) and that community is anything but carebear, they are hardcore PvPers and only seek the tears of their enemies. If the game will provide us the freedom we will camp you, grief you, gank you, and then laugh at you while we let you cry there in the corner while you are wishing for a peacefull instanced area to grind meaningless for some gear that no one ever is going to care about.... IF they will provide us the tools. This is wat L2 did well, they gave you a world with barely any restrictions and you were to create what you want from it. You had to freedom to do this. It's obvious that this game was a Lineage game in its core because of the concept of the PvP and Political system in the game. It just has Lineage basics. 

     

    Also people must understand that the eastern MMO's are not like western MMO's. All western AAA-mmo's I know basically play exactly the same and are either hardcore themepark or hardcore sanbox. The deal with the korean AAA-mmos, like Lineage, is that they tend to have guided and thus a 'themepark'' PvE/Leveling experience but have a ''sandbox'' PvP open world to live in (Except for Aion, they went for the more PvE(carebear a la l2) crowd with guided leveling and some faction warfare). I hope that TERA, just like Lineage, has the guided PvE part and still keeps its sandbox PvP (teritorry control,ffa,clanvsclan). And therefor feels more like a World with ''real'' enemies then a Game (like in L2).

     

     

  • AntariousAntarious Greenville, SCPosts: 2,802Member

    Originally posted by Puremallace

     

    . People who like Aion

    . People who like the Lineage series and the devs who made it

    . People who like fast action based burst combat based on FPS

     

     

    To this specific part I quoted...   I didn't even last the full 30 days that came with my Box price when Aion came out.   I never played L1... even when they started using "Lord Brititsh" to try and promote it to the west (pretty sure I was still in UO pvp'ing with full loot etc when that campaign went on).   I tried L2 and didn't like it...

     

    I have never been a fan of action games or fps games.

     

    I've never been part of this "target" audience you describe.

     

    When I played Kingdoms of Amalur demo... I decided I liked the "active" combat and TERA reminds me of that... I have fun with it.   I've tried games like this in the past and never liked them.   So its likely if I hadn't liked KoA I wouldn't have even bothered to try TERA.

     

    As to the "WoW Killer" thread title...

     

    I don't ever think of any game in terms of WoW Killer.   Tho I often wish I could choke people to death that just constantly talk about WoW in general chat... but that's probably as close to the "WoW Killer" mentality as I get.   Then I turn off general... until they move to trade.. then I turn off trade... until they move to LFG and then I turn that off.   Suddenly this peaceful feeling comes over me and I enjoy the game. 

     

    As a gamer you should never want one game to kill another.   So the moment anyone applies the term "WoW Killer" you know they are not a gamer... and instead have some form of personal agenda ...   which likely means you should just add them to your block list.

     

    Moderator's on this site allow certain posters to create endless troll threads. Yet "warn" people for giving recommendations... account *pending* deletion because.. why bother.

  • slickbizzleslickbizzle Matthews, NCPosts: 464Member

     

    Why would it kill Warcraft?  Aion killer? Maybe, but doubtful.

     

  • NBlitzNBlitz ZwollePosts: 1,904Member

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Originally posted by Puremallace

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    People that like WOW will hate TERA , that much is allready apparent.

    Can I add? People that like WoW+RIFT+TOR will absolutely hate TERA. They already do. I've yet to meet a person who is a fan of either at the same time.

    If there are, show hands please >_>

  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 FlimwellPosts: 1,099Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    It is happening again. The hype is building and the haters are popping out of the wood work scared Tera is coming after their game. Here are some facts people. This game is Lineage 3. It was made for specific people.

     

    . People who like Aion

    . People who like the Lineage series and the devs who made it

    . People who like fast action based burst combat based on FPS

     

    Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

     

    The only thing it has in common with a themepark is the quest and probably the end game raiding. This is already starting to  get ridiculous. We do not need peoples sob story about how Tera was not their personal WoW killer. I know I surely do not care and I seriously doubt others do.

     

    We do not need the comparisons between Tera's voice acting and TOR's voice acting. Put down the pitch forks because En Masse never claimed it was a WoW killer or the zomg next best evoluion of mmorpgs. They only claimed it had fast paced combat which appears to be true.

    People that like WOW will hate TERA , that much is allready apparent.

    Not all. I know a few people that love WoW and love TERA. 

  • VinterkrigVinterkrig BOSTON, MAPosts: 1,672Member

    Originally posted by Puremallace

     

    Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

     

     

    haha, ya I saw plenty of spam in the chat asking how to turn tab targeting on because he couldn't click his skills, I chuckled a bit

  • RavenRaven LondonPosts: 1,974Member Common

    Originally posted by NBlitz

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    Originally posted by Puremallace

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    People that like WOW will hate TERA , that much is allready apparent.

    Can I add? People that like WoW+RIFT+TOR will absolutely hate TERA. They already do. I've yet to meet a person who is a fan of either at the same time.

    If there are, show hands please >_>

    Well I do like WoW and TOR and I like TERA, I dont like Rift tho, so it might be just that specific combination, I know very few ppl who like Rift being the main thing, but they have played TOR and WoW with me and still do.

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  • NBlitzNBlitz ZwollePosts: 1,904Member

    Originally posted by rav3n2

    Originally posted by NBlitz


    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    Originally posted by Puremallace

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    People that like WOW will hate TERA , that much is allready apparent.

    Can I add? People that like WoW+RIFT+TOR will absolutely hate TERA. They already do. I've yet to meet a person who is a fan of either at the same time.

    If there are, show hands please >_>

    Well I do like WoW and TOR and I like TERA, I dont like Rift tho, so it might be just that specific combination, I know very few ppl who like Rift being the main thing, but they have played TOR and WoW with me and still do.

    There goes my preconception, right out the window :)

    OK, thanks.

  • NaowutNaowut MusselkanaalPosts: 647Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Puremallace

     

    . People who like Aion

    . People who like the Lineage series and the devs who made it

     

     

    ....

     

    Aion: Your typical WoW clone. Hate it.

    Lineage 2: One of the greatest games ever made. Love it.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member

    Originally posted by Vinterkrig

    Originally posted by Puremallace

     

    Take my word most of you keyboard turning clickers do not even remotely stand a chance against some of the pvp'rs this game has already attracted. There ae legions/guilds here who will zerg you then laugh at you on the forums as you throw a pity party. They will camp you until you quit and not care. It was made for a very specific audience and not for the carebear crowd.

     

     

    haha, ya I saw plenty of spam in the chat asking how to turn tab targeting on because he couldn't click his skills, I chuckled a bit

    Yeah I saw a guy complaining he couldn't click his skills because then he couldn't aim. He was mad that your mouse became the crosshair...how else would it work?

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  • William12William12 Saint paul, MNPosts: 680Member

    this game wont even have 300k subs in the west i doubt they even get 300k western preorders let alone have it be anything close to a wow killer.

     

    Lesson to developers.   Asian games DO NOT translate to the west and its simple when making a game the very core is made for the market you're aiming at you can change the cosmetics and basic stuff but the CORE of the game is still ment for that market and it will not work here.

     

    Oh btw the game looks good I plan to play it some :)  But I know the majority wont and thats fine.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member

    Originally posted by William12

    this game wont even have 300k subs in the west i doubt they even get 300k western preorders let alone have it be anything close to a wow killer.

     I agree with the WoW killer part but I could see it getting 300k preorders by the time release rolls around. Especially if TB starts posting those TERA videos hes promised and 4chan/reddit continue to market it lol.

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  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon

    The OP kinda sugests that this is going to be a big PVP based game, when in fact its the opposite.

    The is bascially and all out PVE game, with PVP only tacked on for us western players as its nearly non existant o the korean servers.. Tho no one really knows how the open world pvp system will be, from what information we have had your gonna be at a big disadvantage if you start PKing people all over the place..

     

    Tera is basically your standard themepark game with a better combat system, its not as good as the Darkfall combat system or dare I say it Mortal Online but its not trying to be those games.

     

    It is a step in the right direction for a AAA title tho as the old tab target system is getting really old its just a shame that the combat system is the only real different thing in this game, cant really comment on the political system as we aint got that far in beta and even tho i play on the korean servers i aint even tried to look into the system as i dont speak a word of korean lol..

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