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Originally posted by winter After what 6+ years they are still working on "Flying in space" in Eve.
That's what an MMORPG is about though, improving and expanding upon the game over time. If they had just released it and never touched the space parts again, well, that'd be stupid.
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"Dominate" was the reporter's word. Don't hold CCP to that.
Someone please make a good MMO.
Originally posted by JeroKane Originally posted by Master10K Originally posted by reignjuste World of darkness seems very interesting especially if they implement new gen ccp physics that we saw some years before.
Yeah, I wonder if we'll see anything like this in WoD.
Don't hold your hopes up. Being able to get that kind of detail in an MMO is still many years away.
Just fire up EVE Online and check out your Captains quarters. That is pretty much the detail and animation you can expect right now.
That video is just Technology demo. Nothing more.
your captian's quarters are an instances.. they are not real, (a fake room). Any amount of graphics or detail can be added, because everything within them are controlled by Devs. You cannot have 50 un-invited textures apear on your screen.
Same as with entering a station... you don't really enter it, you "zone into" a web page. With a 3dim viewable apsect of your ship. U don't actually fly around the station and find an open bay door and land and get out.
That^ will be PlanetSide2 and because it will be a seemless world & textures (as a whole) will have be less, just to accomindate ALL OF EVERYONE< OR ANYONE who might enter your field of view... because the Dev's cannot control such things in MMORPG's.
That is why MMORPG's (on average) cannot have the same level of detail as a single player game, or a multi-player game with levels/maps (ie: BF3).
These limitations will drastically change in the neer future with 8gb ram & video cards with 2~3GB of VRAM, DX11, etc..
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WoD release date please.
I think that BioWare's treatment of SWTOR demonstrates that the only serious way to design an MMORPG successfully around a well known IP is to first dedicate yourself and your team to copying WoW as much as possible, sacrificing your IP wherever you need to, to accomodate the holy trinity and an end consisting entirely of grinding out gear for both PvE and PvP. I hope clan Tremere have a good healing spec available to them!
Heh , do your homeworks people , you think CCP is only stationned in Iceland? They got a whole dedicated team in North America (Georgia to be precise) working on WoD. Of course they are mostly working on Dust 514 atm , once that's out of the way ,WoD will be kicking in high gear.
Lost all respect for CCP with the dismantling of Incarna EVE.
No interest in their products now.
I have a lot of respect for CCP, especially as they are bucking the trend by not building themepark turds, and maintaning a sandbox, when even the term is considered 'evil'. World of Darkness presents a lot of fun gameplay potential for me as I'm not the type of gamer than is fond of endlessly bashing hordes of monsters. I love the socio-political aspect of Eve, and CCP has stated on many occassions that this is the chief focus for World of Darkness - another virtual world where players and player society makes the rules and enforces them.
However with that said, if they choose to riddle World of Darkness with microtransactions, I will not touch this game, and I suspect many people who were at first interested in it will feel similarly.
The engine for high end models in EVE was a complete failure. They decided to put it on low priority. I don't see them make WoD anytime soon without exploding graphics cards, really.
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about WoD just hope it will not be another swtor!!!
Originally posted by Master10K Huh? So first I hear about World of Darkness being developed by a skeleton crew and now I hear that it is in fact being given the love and care it deserves, with some small parts of the game being playable. I'll be excercising cautious optimism on this title, whilst I wait for some gameplay footage this year.
“We have a kick ass ninja-team focused on the game.”
That explains it. They hired ninjas. They are awesome. Thats a lot better then a crew of skeletons.
When CCP adds Werewolf the Apocalypse to WoD then I'll be interested. However with CCP's track record that will be 10+ years down the road if ever so while it's WoD in name it's really just VtM which is not all that bad as VtM is a fun game with a lot of lore wonder if they'll ever add the Sabbat or independents like the Giovanni as playable options down the road or restrict them to NPCs.
Because flying a Minmatar ship is like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an Uzi.
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA Lost all respect for CCP with the dismantling of Incarna EVE. No interest in their products now.
Originally posted by baritone3k "Dominate" was the reporter's word. Don't hold CCP to that.
Seriously, I find it kind of sad that so many people are so quick to jump down CCP's throats when the only time it is even mentioned is in the title of the article.
Just let me see some in-game footage. Even if it is rough. I want to see it! Come on, CCP. Come on!
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Good to hear from CCP that WoD efforts haven't faltered. As others have said, I'm looking forward to the first in-game footage we get. Sure, it's far off, but I'm still highly awaiting this MMO as I have a feeling the social/political aspect will be a far different type of game than what most current video game players are used to.
Can't wait for Dust either. I'll need it to help dust off my PS3 (pun intended....)
I'm not gonna lie, I am getting really excited about the possibilities of Dust 514. Lately I have been playing Battlefield 3' after a FPS dry spell of several years. I am having fun with it.
My EvE toon was born in October of 2004, and the idea that I can take my enjoyment of BF3 type gameplay and have my eve pilot benefit from it....so effing awesome!
NOW...all of this will be void if the gameplay just sucks. Adding insult to that possible injury...I suck at FPS with a game controller....prefer the mouse and keyboard or nostro.
So, very excited...but still wary.
As for WoD, I know nothing about it and I want it to stay that way....whatever it becomes...good or bad, I prefer to be completely oblivious and let the tell me what it is when it launches. I am tired of the hype/let-down cycle.
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Originally posted by red_cruiser I think that BioWare's treatment of SWTOR demonstrates that the only serious way to design an MMORPG successfully around a well known IP is to first dedicate yourself and your team to copying WoW as much as possible, sacrificing your IP wherever you need to, to accomodate the holy trinity and an end consisting entirely of grinding out gear for both PvE and PvP. I hope clan Tremere have a good healing spec available to them!
Lol, no worries there. CCP have merged with White wolf and have a large P&P crew on the game as well as the MMO people from Eve. This game is doing what M59 and UO did once long ago and starts from the beginning to translate a P&P game into a computer game.
Bioware did a very different thing.
I dont have a good feeling with Dust 514, it just looked like a disaster waiting to happen. First off, PS3 only? I understand CCP wanted to tap into the console market, but restricting to only one console is just not a good move. Second FPS will always be better with keyboard + mouse.
BF-series sets the standard for online MP, I dont think Dust can meet that.
Originally posted by Mari2k Originally posted by Master10K Originally posted by reignjuste World of darkness seems very interesting especially if they implement new gen ccp physics that we saw some years before.
I see the same problem as swtor, when there are more then 3 players on screen we have big fps downhills....
At least it won't be running an early build of the Hero Engine like SW:TOR is, so who knows. But even ArcheAge that runs using the CryEngine3, can have massive PvP battles (on High Graphics settings) without things grinding to a halt.
Originally posted by someforumguy Originally posted by Master10K Huh? So first I hear about World of Darkness being developed by a skeleton crew and now I hear that it is in fact being given the love and care it deserves, with some small parts of the game being playable. I'll be excercising cautious optimism on this title, whilst I wait for some gameplay footage this year.
Yeah, who needs a dev team when CCP can put together a Ninja team... Now that I think about it, maybe I'd prefer the standard dev team working on this project.
Originally posted by Leodious Just let me see some in-game footage. Even if it is rough. I want to see it! Come on, CCP. Come on!
I think this is the closest you can get right now: http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/03/20/video-shows-ccps-incredible-cloth-and-hair-simulation/
And yes, it is old stuff, 2 years old to be precise.
ArcheAge, World of Darkness & Lineage Eternal, so many AAA innovative and sandboxy games to look forward to....
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So.....no news about WOD then. He actualy said nothing of consequence about it. I was hoping for some news, but this wasn't it.
Originally posted by Dayzon So.....no news about WOD then. He actualy said nothing of consequence about it. I was hoping for some news, but this wasn't it.
Well, the news were that the rumors about it just having a skeletal crew isn´t true and that they still work hard on it so it wasn´t a total bummer.