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regarding Total Biscuit´s critic on MMOs

HerodesHerodes DannenbergPosts: 1,494Member

Rift
ToR
These ones I chose, because I was bored. The tragedy continued with more videos of several classes.
My problem with this is: I really like TB´s indie game support. Of course I bought some of them.
But you just can´t compare two games open minded with same basic gameplay like this.

After TB´s marketing front, are there any fair points regarding MMOs making him neutral?

@ TB if you have too few time to compare MMOs, then do not compare them at all.
If you need some supporting money to let your channel stay alive, then say it upfront.

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  • DredphyreDredphyre Los Angeles, CAPosts: 601Member

    Not a fan of TB.  Everytime I hear him on Yogscast, I find him to be be annoying and abrasive. 

  • HerodesHerodes DannenbergPosts: 1,494Member

    You just cannot say "Game A is not my cup of tea, because I know WoW with same mechanics" while you give intervies and talk with your wife on the other.

  • EcocesEcoces Chicago, ILPosts: 879Member Uncommon

    so you disagree with a video blogger?

     

     

    [Mod Edit]

  • HerodesHerodes DannenbergPosts: 1,494Member

     




    Originally posted by Ecoces

    so you disagree with a video blogger?

     

     

    [Mod Edit]



    TotalHalibut is not a random blogger. Try finding a video of him without at least 100.000 clicks. Plus word of mouth like I do.

     

  • EnoshEnosh SulinciPosts: 140Member

    Originally posted by Herodes

    If you need some supporting money to let your channel stay alive, then say it upfront.

    wut?

    he has about half a million subs, that's a lot, he sure as hell isn't strugling for money


    Originally posted by Dredphyre

    Not a fan of TB.  Everytime I hear him on Yogscast, I find him to be be annoying and abrasive. 

    fnny, I tried to watch some yogcast videos but that one guy is so fucking annoying I can't stand it

  • HerodesHerodes DannenbergPosts: 1,494Member


    Originally posted by Enosh
    If you need some supporting money to let your channel stay alive, then say it upfront.

    wut?
    he has about half a million subs, that's a lot, he sure as hell isn't strugling for money


    Well, it is not that I myself pay a burger to sub or join his channel.
  • EnoshEnosh SulinciPosts: 140Member

    Originally posted by Herodes

    Well, it is not that I myself pay a burger to sub or join his channel.

    youtube partnership, or whatever contract he is under something with gamerstation iirc

    fact is in youtube subs and views=money, or just views but subs lead to a steady stream of views

  • IsasisIsasis San Diego, CAPosts: 416Member

    That is because most MMOs suck. In fact, he does like MMOs...he played a lot of GW2 as much as he could, and he LOVED it.

    My youtube channel:

    MMORPG.com is like 4chan, but for gamers.

    WoW already does WoW good.

    PvPers that gank newbies, are carebears. They don't want a challenge (like a carebear), they just want easy mode (like a carebear) and a no challenge combat (like a carebear).

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Amory, MSPosts: 2,544Member Uncommon

    I haven't payed any attention to TB since his pathetic rant about quitting Cataclysm WoW.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    I haven't payed any attention to TB since his pathetic rant about quitting Cataclysm WoW.

     

    What's that? What was said about it?

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  • YuuiYuui KaunasPosts: 723Member


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    I haven't payed any attention to TB since his pathetic rant about quitting Cataclysm WoW.


     What's that? What was said about it?
    The truth about Wow being a dead horse(paraphrasing it)?. Don't remember exactly, but he talked quite a lot about the flaws of expansion and game itself, as well as community and had quite good arguments on why he will never ever ever ever return to wow again.


    @op
    man does make quite good points on just why exactly games like torcraft should NOT exist.

    raging at him just because you have different opinion, while at the same time NOT argumenting yours is immature.

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  • UnlightUnlight Ottawa, ONPosts: 2,540Member

    I don't agree with all of TB's opinions either.  Can't muster the effort to cry about it though.  On the other hand, his WTF series has introduced me to numerous excellent indie games that were otherwise under my radar.  Tip of the top hat for that.

  • Sector13Sector13 New Providence, PAPosts: 687Member

    Originally posted by Enosh

    Originally posted by Herodes

    Well, it is not that I myself pay a burger to sub or join his channel.

    youtube partnership, or whatever contract he is under something with gamerstation iirc

    fact is in youtube subs and views=money, or just views but subs lead to a steady stream of views

    Youtube is for popularity. There are better video sites if your in it for the money aspect.

  • monarc333monarc333 New York, NYPosts: 615Member Uncommon

    Dunno, I like him. He makes me lol sometimes and thats good enough for me.

  • Gabby-airGabby-air surrey, BCPosts: 3,440Member Uncommon

    I think he was right on the wow situation and I disagree with him on a few things but overall he knows what he's talking about and does a very good job at it, for that he has my respect. 

  • AxehiltAxehilt San Francisco, CAPosts: 8,725Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Herodes

    TotalHalibut is not a random blogger. Try finding a video of him without at least 100.000 clicks. Plus word of mouth like I do. 

    A random blogger with 100,000 clicks is still just one guy with an opinion (aka, a random blogger.)

    Though honestly I'm a little confused what you're trying to say about his videos. It's not a critique or comparison at all -- it's a developer interview.  Is your feedback "TB shouldn't do developer interviews"?  Why not?

    "Joe stated his case logically and passionately, but his perceived effeminate voice only drew big gales of stupid laughter..." -Idiocracy
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  • NaqajNaqaj Frankfurt am MainPosts: 1,673Member

    So he dares to have a different opinion then some fanboys? Shock and awe!

  • theniffrigtheniffrig DublinPosts: 351Member

    He had some great stuff in the Cata beta days. After that I stopped following his stuff. He does have some views which I think would make certain games better, but other views I totally disagreed with. Last video I watched he was talking about Warhammer Online - Wrath of Heroes. He basically said the 6v6v6 was just gimmiky. I got the impression he completely missed the point of having 3 seperate "factions" in pvp and all the strategic benefits/flaws that brings to a game that is essentially WoW Battlegrounds with a lobby.

    If you want spoilers/news for unreleased games then he along with some other net podcasters are the go-to-guys.

  • QSatuQSatu WarsawPosts: 1,735Member Uncommon

    Considering 3 factions in Warhammer Online - Wrath of Heroes doesn't help this game suck less I somehow agree with him.

  • DredphyreDredphyre Los Angeles, CAPosts: 601Member

    Originally posted by Enosh

    Originally posted by Herodes

    If you need some supporting money to let your channel stay alive, then say it upfront.

    wut?

    he has about half a million subs, that's a lot, he sure as hell isn't strugling for money


    Originally posted by Dredphyre

    Not a fan of TB.  Everytime I hear him on Yogscast, I find him to be be annoying and abrasive. 

    fnny, I tried to watch some yogcast videos but that one guy is so fucking annoying I can't stand it

    TB is that you? lol

  • YuuiYuui KaunasPosts: 723Member

     




    Originally posted by Dredphyre





    Originally posted by Enosh






    Originally posted by Herodes



    If you need some supporting money to let your channel stay alive, then say it upfront.



    wut?

    he has about half a million subs, that's a lot, he sure as hell isn't strugling for money



    Originally posted by Dredphyre



    Not a fan of TB.  Everytime I hear him on Yogscast, I find him to be be annoying and abrasive. 






    fnny, I tried to watch some yogcast videos but that one guy is so fucking annoying I can't stand it





    TB is that you? lol



     

    Assuming a fullgrown mature male journalist and british person would get into an argument with a simple user in a mmorpg forum.

    {mod edit}  The man is known to NOT visit any kinds of forums, except for having frequented RPS for a few years and ocassionally showing up on reddit.

    I just love people's tendencies to group a serious coherect objective internet journalists to whom it is a JOB, with some occasional simple bloggers. :)

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  • LeegOfChldrnLeegOfChldrn Jcakson, MSPosts: 364Member

    Originally posted by Yuui

    I just love people's tendencies to group a serious coherect objective internet journalists to whom it is a JOB, with some occasional simple bloggers. :)

    I'm sorry, but the idea that being paid to do something makes you a professional is a long withstanding myth.

    In reality, there is no (opinional) difference between a blogger whose "JOB" is to blog and a blogger who doesn't get paid for their opinion. The only actual difference is the idea of money, which is entirely unrelated to the root meaning of the "job" (opinions, reviews, and the exchange of ideas).

     

    I always think it is hilarious when people try to convince me that someone magically transforms into a professional just because money is involved.

    In my own opinion, no one can ever be a professional at giving their opinion, because their opinion (no matter how professional) is simply that: a single opinion. That is why those in the field of science have different definitions of 'fact' than they do of 'opinion'. The very concept of a "professional" opinioneer (critic, reviewer, journalist, idealist, conceptionist, writer, blogger, etc.) is, at least in my one-value-opinion, ludicrous.

     

    Same goes for popularity. Just because someone's opinion is more or less popular, doesn't change the fact it is merely a single person's opinion. Something that holds no more value than the next, less popular person.

  • obiiobii WienPosts: 779Member Uncommon

    I like TB.

    Yes, he is a fanboy and upbeat about everything.

    On the othe hand he says 'play what you like to play' and don't whine about games and he is right.

    instead of whining that games are crap and so on .. enjoy another game and forget the 'crap'.

    Money talks still the best :)

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