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General: MMO Predictions for 2012

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Portland, ORPosts: 1,277Member

    2012 will be the apex of MMO themeparks. Sandbox MMOs retake the genre in 2013.

    I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

  • kroz318kroz318 Lanoka Harbor, NJPosts: 26Member Uncommon

    Same shit different titles is my prediction.

  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 7,183Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Gudrunix

    My predictions, for what they're worth:






    • Diablo 3 hits later than anticipated (easy prediction; Blizzard is always late in releasing major titles), probably some time in the summer





    • Mists of Pandaria hits on schedule, but only after having major features cut at the last minute (anyone anticipating it hitting earlier than scheduled is dreaming; has Blizzard *ever* released a title early in its entire history?)





    • Blizzard keeps Titan in the freezer after its management decides not to do anything that would interfere with the WoW cash cow in any way





    • Secret World severely disappoints





    • Guild Wars 2 releases in the fall, to favorable reviews, but does not quite meet expectations





    • Star Wars: The Old Republic cranks out content to keep subscriptions up and manages to stay alive





    • Rift continues to dwindle toward Vanguard-esque irrelevance, with a small but highly dedicated player base that is not quite enough to fund new development





    • Mobile MMOs continue to disappoint





    • MOBAs continue to strengthen, with League of Legends dominating the market, Heroes of Newerth following in a distant second place, and Dota 2 prompting everyone to ask:  why, exactly, did Valve decide to invest so much into developing a game that is a straightforward but mediocre copy of a freely downloadable custom map?

    Looks like darn good foresight.  Have to wait on the Secret World, but past poor launches from that developer certainly give one pause for thought.  

    Have to wait and see on SWTOR if EA is willing to spend to keep additional content funded.  EA has a bad habit of cutting funding after launch.

    The problem with Mobile MMO's the hardware is still a couple generations too early for them, but it not be long before we see hardware that will run them.

    I do not disagree about MOBA's, but can someone explain to me the attraction of MOBA's?  I find them highly repetitive and not that fun, besides the clientelle is extremely rude for the most part, yet popular they are.

  • DestaiDestai Detroit, MIPosts: 574Member

    The Secret World is a title I am skeptical yet hopeful about. I am not too enthused about their pricing model, but the gameplay and pseudo-historical faction conflict are interesting, as well as the skill system. 

    I have no hopes for Titan, after the consistent streamlining of World of Warcraft, I doubt I'd be interested anyhow. They have to prove to me they can make a game with more subtance and strategy. 

    Guild Wars 2 - What can I say? Release the bloody thing already and quit teasing us. 

    MOBAs, Facebook and Indie developers are all areas I could honestly care less about. It equates to more unpolished kiddie games with cheeky art and little substance or story.

    Here are my predictions:

    - Mists of Pandaria releases and World of Warcraft continues to lose American and European subscribers.

    - Guild Wars 2 releases to much fanfare but only offers passing pleasure.

    - Vanguard closes and with it the promise of a multi-faceted Western MMO

    - The Secret World flops

    - SWTOR will stagnate

    - More F2P games will release with poor implementations

    I am in rare and negative form this evening, but I really feel it's necessary. I apologize in advance.

  • surfer88surfer88 Lansing, MIPosts: 33Member

    blizzard is releasing mists of pandria along with D3 so they can shift their cash cow of a name to a title with a lil more wiggle room... wow is gettign old they can see it... most people can see it as well just are not smart enoguh to put two and two together... now as far as GW2 they are in no rush because people want it out sooner... they have waited this long and made sure things feel right if they see even the smallest hint of glitches they will pull the game back down and show it who's the dad in the relationship... as far as facebook games they will all be the same just a cash for play game. mobile games will get a lil better but people will be looking to make games on console/pc split more and more... with new systems coming out the blend between the two will be closer and closer... titan wont be released this year with D3 being out... blizzard wouldnt step on its own toes... enough people will play D3... Swtor will kill itself and have its core fanbase like rift/eq/ff/etc. etc. secret world will have a big start... it will be the refreshing game for the year but will lose its touch just like resident evil/ silent hill did... they were new but they lose that polish... 

  • TheCrow2kTheCrow2k Adelaide, AKPosts: 953Member

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    Yes please.... please a third faction and for the developers to please stop raving about WoW and actually do some of their own thinking. Not holding my breath though, Im really expecting another WoW clone.... which is sad.

  • NBlitzNBlitz ZwollePosts: 1,904Member
    I predict 2012 will be a better year than 2011.
    By how much? Sec, calling miss Cleo.
  • Chivalry1978Chivalry1978 Vandergrift, PAPosts: 184Member

    Originally posted by Gudrunix

    My predictions, for what they're worth:




    • Diablo 3 hits later than anticipated (easy prediction; Blizzard is always late in releasing major titles), probably some time in the summer



    • Mists of Pandaria hits on schedule, but only after having major features cut at the last minute (anyone anticipating it hitting earlier than scheduled is dreaming; has Blizzard *ever* released a title early in its entire history?)



    • Blizzard keeps Titan in the freezer after its management decides not to do anything that would interfere with the WoW cash cow in any way



    • Secret World severely disappoints



    • Guild Wars 2 releases in the fall, to favorable reviews, but does not quite meet expectations



    • Star Wars: The Old Republic cranks out content to keep subscriptions up and manages to stay alive



    • Rift continues to dwindle toward Vanguard-esque irrelevance, with a small but highly dedicated player base that is not quite enough to fund new development



    • Mobile MMOs continue to disappoint



    • MOBAs continue to strengthen, with League of Legends dominating the market, Heroes of Newerth following in a distant second place, and Dota 2 prompting everyone to ask:  why, exactly, did Valve decide to invest so much into developing a game that is a straightforward but mediocre copy of a freely downloadable custom map?



     



    diablo 3 most likely will be late but who care its diablo.

    next wow expansion yeah, I mean over the years they release an expansion and cut back stuff only to add it in later in order to justify the need for people to keep paying them for content, that and blizzard is rather anal about the products they put out, most of the time.

    I doubt blizzard would do that as blizzard has been rather active in trying to gain more money by branching out more. Between aquiring activision and rather quick releases of 2 other all time favorite franchises they are looking to take the world of pc gaming.

    Secret world see I dont know about this. Yes funcom drops the ball left and right on previous games, however they tend to make up for it later to some degree. And with the restructuring and new management I have high hopes they will make ammends for what has happened in the past. And if you dont think the past is on the minds over there then you would be mistaken.

    Gw2 yeah pretty spot on...Will not live up to all the hype as all the hype is fan based and not from the developers. So in truth the fan boys will destroy their own game before it is ever released.

    Star wars will have to keep cranking out content as Lucas generally will not let anything ruin the brand he has created and has some clauses in his contract with ea/bioware to ensure it. So yeah more content will come...

    I thought rift was already there and most likely will see a f2p change over to survive.

    mobile mmo's See I tend to not agree with this. The apu chip set design was actually designed to be used not only for pc, laptop, netbook, tablet, and cell phones. This combined with expanded memory modules as well as possible dongle install devices could actually create a platform where mobile mmo's could grow and thrive, however not in 2012....But it can be done.

    MOBA's....I grew bored with these a bit ago, however I was really impressed with LOCO's way of doing it rather then top down to be done more classic mmo style and has a greater action appeal to it...To be honest this wouldbe one of the first major genres to be ported to mobiles in the future.

  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,356Member Uncommon

    #2 GW2 predicted for a September release? you have gotta be kidding. Now how was this predicted? 

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  • AutemOxAutemOx Fullerton, CAPosts: 1,704Member

    I will laugh until my sides turn red if blizzards new MMO is a sandbox and is a huge hit.  First MMOs are for 'hardcore gamers only' and not casual gamers.  Blizzard proves them wrong.  Now its 'nobody wants to make a sandbox because casual gamers don't like it'...  Prove them wrong Blizzard!!

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  • AutemOxAutemOx Fullerton, CAPosts: 1,704Member

    Originally posted by WhySoShort



    Originally posted by Gudrunix



    My predictions, for what they're worth:



    • Diablo 3 hits later than anticipated (easy prediction; Blizzard is always late in releasing major titles), probably some time in the summer


    • Mists of Pandaria hits on schedule, but only after having major features cut at the last minute (anyone anticipating it hitting earlier than scheduled is dreaming; has Blizzard *ever* released a title early in its entire history?)


    • Blizzard keeps Titan in the freezer after its management decides not to do anything that would interfere with the WoW cash cow in any way


    • Secret World severely disappoints


    • Guild Wars 2 releases in the fall, to favorable reviews, but does not quite meet expectations


    • Star Wars: The Old Republic cranks out content to keep subscriptions up and manages to stay alive


    • Rift continues to dwindle toward Vanguard-esque irrelevance, with a small but highly dedicated player base that is not quite enough to fund new development


    • Mobile MMOs continue to disappoint


    • MOBAs continue to strengthen, with League of Legends dominating the market, Heroes of Newerth following in a distant second place, and Dota 2 prompting everyone to ask:  why, exactly, did Valve decide to invest so much into developing a game that is a straightforward but mediocre copy of a freely downloadable custom maps

    A little bleak, but very likely, I shouldn't wonder.

    +1.  Quality predictions.  

    I think that SWTOR will running strong as free to play by the end of 2012 or early 2013.  That is the only change to these predictions I would make.

    I think that the OP predictions are also good.  I think Titan will be announced 2013 but its possible they'll announce it late 2012.

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  • AutemOxAutemOx Fullerton, CAPosts: 1,704Member

    WoW is not going anywhere... It will be around 2 decades from now, like EQ is.  Hell EQ will be around 2 decades from now.  :-)  Might be free to play though, sometime before TItan is released!

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  • Cthulhu23Cthulhu23 Tempe, AZPosts: 994Member

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

     

    I think that SWTOR will running strong as free to play by the end of 2012 or early 2013.  That is the only change to these predictions I would make.

     

    LOL.  Simply hilarious.

  • AutemOxAutemOx Fullerton, CAPosts: 1,704Member

    Originally posted by Cthulhu23

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I think that SWTOR will running strong as free to play by the end of 2012 or early 2013.  That is the only change to these predictions I would make.

    LOL.  Simply hilarious.

    This game has low long term playability due to its focus on story based content which will push them towards expanding their user base via strategies like F2P.  What is hilarious?

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  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common

    Originally posted by MikeB

    I really do hope that THQ and co. rethink the two faction deal for 40K. Three or more factions are really necessary for a proper Warhammer experience, IMO.

    ^^THIS^^

     

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  • pierthpierth San Antonio, TXPosts: 1,503Member

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    Originally posted by Cthulhu23


    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I think that SWTOR will running strong as free to play by the end of 2012 or early 2013.  That is the only change to these predictions I would make.

    LOL.  Simply hilarious.

    This game has low long term playability due to its focus on story based content which will push them towards expanding their user base via strategies like F2P.  What is hilarious?

    Regardless of whether it's probable of TOR going F2P, freemium, or whatever- EA/Bioware could make a killing with adventure packs as DLC in a cash shop. With the game's strong focus on story of course players would want to get more voiced story arcs for their toons.

  • purewitzpurewitz Casselberry, FLPosts: 487Member

    And Star Wars: The OId Republic will own the year that is 2012 and will continue to be the one MMO to rule them all, The Chosen One. Plus there will be a new term called the TOR Killer, but one will not come for a long time. Yet there maybe one in the distant future. Maybe another Star Wars MMO or maybe the fabled Mass Effect MMO. Only time will tell. All this was foretold by the wise MMO Sages of old. The prophecy read that one day  The Chosen One would  come and will rule them all. And The Chosen One has come and The Chosen One was born on December 20th, 2011. Unto a  virgin MMORPG developer named Bioware, who was without the sins of the Harlot MMORPG developer named Sony Online Entertainment. So it was written and so it has come to pass. Rejoice O' MMO Gamer, Rejoice. For we are now in a Golden Age of Online Interactive Entertainment. Oh Plus the prophecy as fortold that The Beast know as World of Warcraft will be cast in to the abyss in 2012, along with its evil creator named Blizzard aka Diablo himself. Freeing the poor WOW slaves from their bondage forever. Amen.

    When we get back from where we are going, we will return to where we were. I know people there!

  • jerlot65jerlot65 Lake Mary, FLPosts: 788Member



    Originally posted by wormywyrm




    Originally posted by WhySoShort










    Originally posted by Gudrunix







    My predictions, for what they're worth:




    • Diablo 3 hits later than anticipated (easy prediction; Blizzard is always late in releasing major titles), probably some time in the summer



    • Mists of Pandaria hits on schedule, but only after having major features cut at the last minute (anyone anticipating it hitting earlier than scheduled is dreaming; has Blizzard *ever* released a title early in its entire history?)



    • Blizzard keeps Titan in the freezer after its management decides not to do anything that would interfere with the WoW cash cow in any way



    • Secret World severely disappoints



    • Guild Wars 2 releases in the fall, to favorable reviews, but does not quite meet expectations



    • Star Wars: The Old Republic cranks out content to keep subscriptions up and manages to stay alive



    • Rift continues to dwindle toward Vanguard-esque irrelevance, with a small but highly dedicated player base that is not quite enough to fund new development



    • Mobile MMOs continue to disappoint



    • MOBAs continue to strengthen, with League of Legends dominating the market, Heroes of Newerth following in a distant second place, and Dota 2 prompting everyone to ask:  why, exactly, did Valve decide to invest so much into developing a game that is a straightforward but mediocre copy of a freely downloadable custom maps

    A little bleak, but very likely, I shouldn't wonder.

    +1.  Quality predictions.  

    I think that SWTOR will running strong as free to play by the end of 2012 or early 2013.  That is the only change to these predictions I would make.

    I think that the OP predictions are also good.  I think Titan will be announced 2013 but its possible they'll announce it late 2012.






     

    You are dreaming if you think SWTOR will go F2P



     

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  • UnSubUnSub PerthPosts: 252Member

    Originally posted by purewitz

    And Star Wars: The OId Republic will own the year that is 2012 and will continue to be the one MMO to rule them all, The Chosen One. Plus there will be a new term called the TOR Killer, but one will not come for a long time. Yet there maybe one in the distant future. Maybe another Star Wars MMO or maybe the fabled Mass Effect MMO. Only time will tell. All this was foretold by the wise MMO Sages of old. The prophecy read that one day  The Chosen One would  come and will rule them all. And The Chosen One has come and The Chosen One was born on December 20th, 2011. Unto a  virgin MMORPG developer named Bioware, who was without the sins of the Harlot MMORPG developer named Sony Online Entertainment. So it was written and so it has come to pass. Rejoice O' MMO Gamer, Rejoice. For we are now in a Golden Age of Online Interactive Entertainment. Oh Plus the prophecy as fortold that The Beast know as World of Warcraft will be cast in to the abyss in 2012, along with its evil creator named Blizzard aka Diablo himself. Freeing the poor WOW slaves from their bondage forever. Amen.




     

     

    ... so EA is Joseph in that particular scenario?



     

  • ShredderSEShredderSE SthlmPosts: 197Member

    Forgot to add that SWTOR will be shut down.

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon

    All that follows are some random guy`s subjective opinions...so treat it that way. Its not supposed to be promoted as objective. Many ppl will disagree proly

    1) SWTOR will be losing subs - the extent will determine if it goes F2P or not (my guess is not in 2012, but in 2013 for sure).

    2) Secret world - There is not much known about this game yet and even though I would kinda like it to succeed, I am afraid that it will not become a major player on mmo field.

    3) Diablo 3 - I expect success, I mean...its diablo, the game most of us have been waiting for for years now. Its from Blizzard, I dont really remember any major title from Blizz that failed. Also the beta reviews are more than positive. The release being in February is arguable...dont expect it to hit much later than that tho. Def not earlier

    4) WoW - I am STILL an active player of WoW. However, I am really looking forward to leaving it for good once a new mmo that would be worth it hits the market. I hope it will be before the MoP since I personally do not consider the asian panda idea to be attractive. Also I do not see any major changes to the game itself. It will be like 5 new dungeons, 3 new raids, BGs, Arena, some pve games,...been there...done that...dont have the power to go through another expansion being entertained by the same stuff again.

    5) GW2 - I agree that the gameplay is good, but I would personally consider this game to be obsolete even if it hit the market in 2011. I mean...I would expect the devs to do or at least try to do something revolutionary since the mmo community is bored being bombarded with the same stuff by every new mmo. In my opinion, it will not bring anything so spectacular to become a major mmo in the market. Its just...same stuff that we have seen before. Shouldnt this year be the year of transition between 2nd and 3rd generation of MMOs?The only thing that compensates for the lack of innovation is the fact that it will be basically F2P...so ye, nice new F2P game which, in my opinion, will not be able to compete with next gen P2P titles. 

    6) Titan - I expect we get some info on Titan in 2012. I also expect it to be a next gen mmo. If Blizzard wants to succeed...and by succeed I mean to create a successor of WoW that will become the new elephant in the mmo market, they have to bring something new, something amazing, something unprecedented.

    7) Archeage - Now this game can be a big surprise of 2012. I was following some beta impressions and videos and read a lot about the content and the freedom given to the players. My personal feeling is that if it delivers all it includes in a way that can actually entertain people, it can easily beat all mmos like GW2, SWTOR, Rift, even Titan. At this point, it appears to be a next gen mmo.

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common

    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I will laugh until my sides turn red if blizzards new MMO is a sandbox and is a huge hit.  First MMOs are for 'hardcore gamers only' and not casual gamers.  Blizzard proves them wrong.  Now its 'nobody wants to make a sandbox because casual gamers don't like it'...  Prove them wrong Blizzard!!

    i REALY hope you are right on this one.....i can dream cant i? hehe

    But reality will be more like something e-sport/ladder kinda mmo me thinks.

    They need something new to shine next to SC2 e-sports and wow pvp battlegrounds (hmm also e-sports).

    They already showing (if you can listen closely in their interviews) that all their games (see also the upcomming D3) will include some form of e-sports.

    I have nothing against this but it will always be TOO controlled by blizz......player content isnt under their controle and thereby will not happen.

    So dont even think blizz will EVER make a sandbox.

    My hopes are that Archeage will deliver some of the sandbox goods UO used to have.

     

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  • ne0-n1njane0-n1nja SkopjePosts: 3Member

    GW2 in SEPTEMBER??? NO WAY!!

    GW2 is coming out this April, at latest!

  • troublmakertroublmaker St. George''s, NFPosts: 337Member

    Zenimax isn't actually developing an MMO, Interplay is.  Interplay are the guys who first published Fallout in 1997 under Bethesda's banner.  They just settled a law suit and its in question whether or not this game will come out.  Makes #5 a 50:50

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  • ScotScot UKPosts: 5,757Member Uncommon

    The thing that strikes you throughout the predictions is that they are so remarkably upbeat. MMO’s just go from strength to strength each year. That would be so wonderful if it were not wrong.


     


    10) Mobile MMO’s are the latest in a long line of trends towards simplicity; they are on mobiles so they don’t have the processing power. We saw what happened to MMO’s when they started to be made for consoles as well as PC’s, simplistic graphics, dodgy PC controls. I am not saying graphics have not improved, but they are improving at a console pace, not a PC pace. Worst of all though is the expansion of the player base. Consoles brought in loads of teenagers which made MMO’s loose much of their maturity and finally be made for those less mature.


     


    Now we have mobiles, wake up guys, what do you think is going to happen to MMO’s now? What age group is on their mobile’s all the time? What age group spends more money on throw away consumables than any other? MMO’s will become even more the domain of the under 20’s. But not only that, mobiles are not a gaming device, consoles are, MMO designers will do their best to be as inclusive of everyone who owns a mobile. The further influence of mobiles will be change the nature of what a MMO is, I really don’t want to spend my MMO life looking after a farm.


     


    9) Social media are taking over gaming, but that’s not a good thing. Games were once made for gamers, now there is a shift to make them for Facepalm users and Twitless types. I do know gamers use these sites, maybe you do? But you are a minority there, the new games will move in the direction of the majority, business always goes where the money is.


     


    8) I agree that there will be fusion between different MMO genres, but we have seen that before and it has not always been a resounding success. Here it’s painted as if nothing can go wrong. We have already ended up with games that are a mish-mash of ideas pandering to everyone and satisfying no one long term. More of the same seems certain in the New Year.


     


    7) The great hope is indie MMO’s but MMO’s started out as being rather ‘indie’ themselves. They were niche games made by newcomers as much as established gaming companies. Fifteen years later and they are totally corporate in outlook. How long before the indie companies are snapped up by the giants? EA, Sony, Times-Warner…there are some very big beasts out there who want a bite of every pie.


     


    6 and 5) More hype on the way…yeah!


     


    4) Breaking news…WoW will release a new expansion in 2012. This is wonderful surprise news for the MMO gaming community! Oh and more hype on the way!


     


    3) More hype on the way…yeah!


     


    2) More hype on the way…yeah!


     


    1) The granddaddy of all Hype will begin as Blizzard announces their new MMO. More hype on the way…yeah!


     


     


    In conclusion the 2012 MMO year will be one of little innovation, more easymode and the trend of MMO’s to become designed for people who are not gamers will continue. Oh and one heck of a lot of hype. Yeah its going to be a real ‘doozy’. :)

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