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one thing is certain. the best way to impact positive change and be taken seriously is to exaggerate the problem, and fail to describe the problem accurately.
non-nude suggestive fantasy images are not porn of any kind. making them out to be worse than they are will only get you laughed at.
Originally posted by DannyGlover
Perhaps. But thats not the real issue here imo. Human sexuality is normal and a healthy topic to discuss. But what I am seeing on these ads is not human sexuality. It is the objectification of women to make money. Which is basically pornography by definition.
These woman sell themselves and profit from that objectivity, acting as though they're victims is ridiculous IMO.
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Originally posted by Cruorisnon-nude suggestive fantasy images are not porn of any kind. making them out to be worse than they are will only get you laughed at.
Originally posted by momodigDanny if you don't like the real issue don't look at it or surf the web - it's part of life I'm afraid... freedom of choice/expression.
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Originally posted by Robokapp what sexual acts is she engaged in? without any its not porn, just nudity.
He used the term correctly... "softcore"=nudity and "hardcore"=well... yeah.
Originally posted by Distopia Originally posted by DannyGlover
Never said these women are victims. Hell they could be millionaires laughing their way to the bank. Doesn't change the fact that it is objectification and degradation. People willingly degrade themselves all the time. Doesn't make it ok.
Danny the girls in these adds are not being exploited, they are getting paid by choice to be models. I could see if children were getting exploited, but by no means are these adult woman getting exploited.
Originally posted by Lowcaian The american outlook (and yes it's mostly american) never fails to amuse me. It's ok to play a game or see a movie with killing but if there's even a hint of partial nudity kids will get scarred for life. I was on imdb where a concerned parent asked if there were scenes that contained nudity and/or sexuality in Conan because her 12 year old kid wanted to see it at home.
The graphic violence is fine, but sexuality is a no no.
I getcha dude and I am an American, proud of it. But even to me that seems really really backwards. 10 bucks says the OP would be fine with ads depicting violence on this site. A shadow of a nip and its a huge issue tho.
Oh well. He is entitled to his opinion and us to ours.
Block your children from this site if you must. But IMO leave it as is, not everyone shares your point of view.
Originally posted by momodigDanny the girls in these adds are not being exploited, they are getting paid by choice to be models. I could see if children were getting exploited, but by no means are these adult woman getting exploited.
Exploitation and willful consent are not mutually exclusive.
i would consider that pick not safe for work.
Originally posted by RefMinor Originally posted by Cruoris non-nude suggestive fantasy images are not porn of any kind. making them out to be worse than they are will only get you laughed at.
letting your child surf the internet AT ALL unattended is unappropriate, if restrictive parenting is your style. the net is a free culture, and once you remove subjective restrictions, all kinds of ACTUAL REALITY start to slip in.
dig a hole and throw your kids in it. this will protect them from any other things that happen in the world. that way, you can continue to apply your warped sense of selective reality to their minds in peace.
Sex sells. Companies have been using it to sell products for years. Ever see any 200 pound ugly chicks hockng perfume? Howeverf the adds for some of the Asian grinder games are getting close to child porn.
Really? This game sucks and Im not having fun? Im going to unsub right now. Thanks for the tip.
I tired and sick of all the people being tired and sick. But it don't mean i get to censor you.
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Originally posted by Cruoris Originally posted by RefMinor Originally posted by Cruoris non-nude suggestive fantasy images are not porn of any kind. making them out to be worse than they are will only get you laughed at.
oh and by the way, if you dont talk to your kids about sex and condoms, and sexual mistakes at a very early age, you increase their chances of lying to you, sneaking out, doing stupid things without adult support, getting pregnant or STD's including AIDS, but more likely simply being sucked into a culture of peer pressure with NO DEFENCE MECHANISMS DEVELOPED.
you're children are not angels from heaven, they are fledgling humans who need to have the truth of this world woven into their fabric of being from as early an age as possible. pretending a sexless existance can happen is not "protection", its preventing your children from seeing the world as is it.
here is a link that will show you the age old error of your ways.
Originally posted by RefMinor Originally posted by Cruoris Originally posted by RefMinor Originally posted by Cruoris non-nude suggestive fantasy images are not porn of any kind. making them out to be worse than they are will only get you laughed at.
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I completely agree with the OP.
We demand hard-core porn ads! Enough with the teasing MMORPG.com!
It's not even nudity, it's cleavage. I see that everyday working at a government cubicle farm.
More puritanical hysteria.
Originally posted by steelfrenzy I completely agree with the OP. We demand hard-core porn ads! Enough with the teasing MMORPG.com!
lol at that and lol at the op. Seriously about adds at this site I can say they are fine, no popups and nothing that would make me look over my shoulder to make sure no ones there.
google crome with ad blocker = no stupid ads. i havent seen that ad or those old evony in-forever with this blocker.
frankly though i can see their point of view on the ad... but i disagree with it being labled as sexual.. if it was hollywood rated.. that would be PG13...
though mmorpg really doesnt get much say in what ads are shown they can only take the end user's complaint to the site that gives the ad-bar and have it altered or pulled
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Meh you shouldn't shelter your kids, they have already most likely been to a porn site unless you watch them every single second, IMO a child that has touched the internet is no longer innocent and probally knows alot more than you think they do, But really.. lrn 2 get firefox and get adblock plus, and boom no more ads anywhere, I especally love adblock plus with ad.fly since adfly gets 0 cash from the ads since the adblock plus stops them from loading period. Only ad on mmorpg thta gets thru is the wallpaper-like ad, which i am determined to figure out a way to block.
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I think this thread has run it's course. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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