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Awakened to EVE

sycofiendsycofiend Frederick, MDPosts: 128Member

EVE, where have you been all my life ??

Not sure why I skipped taking a look at this game all these years,  instead dabbling in those fantasy MMO's from EQ to AION and more all flavors inbetween .. but never even tried it, despite being a sci fi and naval combat fan.

Well I just started a trial account earlier last week, and I have already upgraded to a full account.  This game is amazing !

The big thing right now is the sheer wow factor, I have never felt so overwhelmed or like such a complete noob in a game to this degree before, but that just satiated my appetite.

I now understand the draw of the sandbox ... and the amazing feel of a wide open (and amazing world)

It also seems the game is healthy and drawing in new players right now (which is a good thing), it seems there is still opportunity for new players like me to have a place in the game.

I have 10 million questions right now, but lovign every second of my time in new eden, and cant wait to get back in game.

Some basic stuff

1. At what point in your carrer shoud one seek out a corp, whats the best way to find one ?

2.  I have seem some racial threads, I rolled Gallenete based off of story line (and supporting chars to maximize skills) reading some threads about them being useless.. should I reconsider or is that just preference ?

 

3. I am already seeing where multiple chars have advantages (parallel skill training for example, mining, contracts, combat)  can other races trade from the get go, or does it make sense to make chars of same race ?  also are multiple accounts accepted or frowned upon ?

 

Thanks !

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon

    played for 2 years. excellent game. sadly it didnt fit in with my other MMO and work. :(.

     

    many players with capabilities to plex like to have multiple accounts since its...basically free. so its not frowned upon, no.

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  • BaxslashBaxslash Clinton, ONPosts: 230Member

    Get into Eve University as quickly as possible, they'll help with the basics, I've been a player shortly after they added the very first Battleships, so, been playing for 7 years now.

  • CodenakCodenak HullPosts: 418Member Common

    1. As soon as possible, either find a corp thats doing what you like doing, join a learning corp, or find some friends and make your own corp. (Look out for corps with high tax rates though, that can stunt your development as a pilot, unless they provide you with free ships and skills)

    2. Personal preference, you can train any skill in eve if you have the isk for the skillbook and the prerquisites to learn the skill.

    3. Again thats personal preference and mulitple characters are an accepted part of eve, some say they are even required.

  • GdemamiGdemami Beau VallonPosts: 7,865Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by sycofiend

    1. At what point in your carrer shoud one seek out a corp, whats the best way to find one ?
    2.  I have seem some racial threads, I rolled Gallenete based off of story line (and supporting chars to maximize skills) reading some threads about them being useless.. should I reconsider or is that just preference ?
     
    3. I am already seeing where multiple chars have advantages (parallel skill training for example, mining, contracts, combat)  can other races trade from the get go, or does it make sense to make chars of same race ?  also are multiple accounts accepted or frowned upon ?

    1) I guess that depends on what your 'career' is. It really boils down to your play style and persona.

    Hitting some corporations focused on teaching new players - ie. EVE University, are safe bet, imo.

    How to find a good corp? Interview and 'data mining' are the best tools imo. Talk to recruit officers, ex-members, observe their forum posting history, track their activities, etc.

    Need to say most of it is hard to do with no or little game experience.

    2) Gallente suffer of poor game balance.

    Gallente use 2 weapon platforms - hybrids and drones. Drone boats are very much fine - great overall versatility although drones some inherited disadvantages. Problem are hybrid guns that just plain suck - hybrid boats are lacking a place and role.

    3) To make it clear, unless for role play reasons, racial choice is just cosmetics. You can train any skill and use any ship or weapons you want.

    Multiply accounts is a convenience like in any other game - you do not have to rely on other people, you can get access to skills you want 'sooner'.

  • elistrangeelistrange Louisville, KYPosts: 157Member

    OP

    Join a Guild as soon as possible. 

    Head to the EVE RAdio chat channel...and listen to EVE Radio, because it is cool.

    Read up on the game. The game is huge, complicated, and awesome. 

    Presently, I am the CEO of a small mining operation.

    I have two accounts, one with an ORCA one with a Hulk. Both are mining vessals.

    I am presently working on training all six of my characters in Planetary Interaction.

    However, I also do exploration, and sometimes do missions.

    That is the "care bear" route

    There is also the PVP griefter route...which is just as valid.

    I also have a pirate, but he has been sitting on ice for a while, since i am working on getting my business up and running.

    I will probably get into trading and manufactoring next. 

     

    Currently Play: ?
    Occasionally Play: Champions, Pirates of the Burning Sea, WOW, EVE ONLINE

  • sycofiendsycofiend Frederick, MDPosts: 128Member

    Thanks for all the great replies so far,  I have been researching my butt off .. and there is a LOT of info out there.  downloaded the ISK PDF and going through that and will check into EVE university.

    my initial interests are mining and military (escort) but I am sure that will develop over time/

    I actually had a near brush with a pirate traveling multi-jumps through unknown territory to pick up some items I found cheap .. quite and adreneline rush .. and that was nothing,.. I cant wait :P

    There is SO much to this game !

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • BaxslashBaxslash Clinton, ONPosts: 230Member

    Glad your enjoying your first few days, but, wait until you get into your first fleet pvp battle. then the rush will get really intense )

  • Chivalry1978Chivalry1978 Vandergrift, PAPosts: 184Member

    GREAT GAME just dont think your gonna be able to pvp at all since most of the players that do pvp have been playing for 2 or more years solid and will have well over 3-10 million sp points thus they will have way better stats then you can get and you will always be behind them....The game is great for those with paintence to play all there lives but if you want a game with some casual player base eve is not for you.....

     

    wich is sad cause when I played it when it launched there was so much possibility, but after the epic space battle against concord naval police where the gms actually nuked and banned players for griefing and lowering security space on an epic scale I gave up.....some sand box...

  • BossalinieBossalinie Hattiesburg, MSPosts: 683Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Chivalry1978

    GREAT GAME just dont think your gonna be able to pvp at all since most of the players that do pvp have been playing for 2 or more years solid and will have well over 3-10 million sp points thus they will have way better stats then you can get and you will always be behind them....The game is great for those with paintence to play all there lives but if you want a game with some casual player base eve is not for you.....

     

    This post is a little deceiving. Yes, people who've played longer will always have more SP than you, but that's not a game breaker. If a person with 500 million SP engages you piloting a ship that only required 4 million SP to max the ship out, then all you are fighting against is 4 million SP.

    It's a really good idea to pick a ship that you want to master, and train ALL of the necessary skills to max the ship out. A lot of new people rush to jump in a battleship and still get owned by a small frigate...everytime. How? The newb in the battleship has no skills invested in his ship, while the frigate pilot has he Ph.D. in his. Just because you can sit in it doesn't mean you can fly it.

  • Chivalry1978Chivalry1978 Vandergrift, PAPosts: 184Member

    Originally posted by bossalinie

    Originally posted by Chivalry1978

    GREAT GAME just dont think your gonna be able to pvp at all since most of the players that do pvp have been playing for 2 or more years solid and will have well over 3-10 million sp points thus they will have way better stats then you can get and you will always be behind them....The game is great for those with paintence to play all there lives but if you want a game with some casual player base eve is not for you.....

     

    This post is a little deceiving. Yes, people who've played longer will always have more SP than you, but that's not a game breaker. If a person with 500 million SP engages you piloting a ship that only required 4 million SP to max the ship out, then all you are fighting against is 4 million SP.

    It's a really good idea to pick a ship that you want to master, and train ALL of the necessary skills to max the ship out. A lot of new people rush to jump in a battleship and still get owned by a small frigate...everytime. How? The newb in the battleship has no skills invested in his ship, while the frigate pilot has he Ph.D. in his. Just because you can sit in it doesn't mean you can fly it.

    And your post is also decieving....First battleship are needed for level 4 missions, Two the only way a firgate can do those is if its a tech two frigate which fully decked out will take a month or so before a player will be able to do the same as he can do in a week's time.....

     

    Eve has been repeatedly awarded so many awards yet shunned by so many players...I played for years before I bored became bored with it....and every few years I come back only to see nothing has changed much...sure new ways to do something but some rather core things still are not there for the casual gamer....so take it as it is if your a casual gamer that wants a fair chance in game then eve is not for you  if you want to get spanked by 80% of the community before you actually can kill some one one. then eve is perfect for you.....

  • GdemamiGdemami Beau VallonPosts: 7,865Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Chivalry1978

    And your post is also decieving....

    No, it isn't.

    First, L4 are not needed.
    Second, EVE can be played very casually, and due real-time based features, you could argue that it can be played more casually than most games out there.


  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon

    EVE is also the only game where you can "max out" your character without ever leaving the station you started at ;)

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N BirminghamPosts: 3,515Member
    Originally posted by Chivalry1978

    GREAT GAME just dont think your gonna be able to pvp at all since most of the players that do pvp have been playing for 2 or more years solid and will have well over 3-10 million sp points thus they will have way better stats then you can get and you will always be behind them....The game is great for those with paintence to play all there lives but if you want a game with some casual player base eve is not for you.....
     
    wich is sad cause when I played it when it launched there was so much possibility, but after the epic space battle against concord naval police where the gms actually nuked and banned players for griefing and lowering security space on an epic scale I gave up.....some sand box...

     

    From this i am guessing when you played EvE you were one of those who were Griefing the day old newbies in what is basically the newbie starting area which is why the police there are designed to always win at killing your ship. Its well known that surviving against such an attack by police is a bannable offence as its against the rules to exploit the game where it can be. Such as killing newbies in safe space and surviving police retaliation through an exploit of a bug, or spawning free moon minerals through a unknown bug. So fact is you are just angry that you got caught out.

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • Chivalry1978Chivalry1978 Vandergrift, PAPosts: 184Member

    Originally posted by HYPERI0N

    Originally posted by Chivalry1978

    GREAT GAME just dont think your gonna be able to pvp at all since most of the players that do pvp have been playing for 2 or more years solid and will have well over 3-10 million sp points thus they will have way better stats then you can get and you will always be behind them....The game is great for those with paintence to play all there lives but if you want a game with some casual player base eve is not for you.....

     

    wich is sad cause when I played it when it launched there was so much possibility, but after the epic space battle against concord naval police where the gms actually nuked and banned players for griefing and lowering security space on an epic scale I gave up.....some sand box...

     

    From this i am guessing when you played EvE you were one of those who were Griefing the day old newbies in what is basically the newbie starting area which is why the police there are designed to always win at killing your ship. Its well known that surviving against such an attack by police is a bannable offence as its against the rules to exploit the game where it can be. Such as killing newbies in safe space and surviving police retaliation through an exploit of a bug, or spawning free moon minerals through a unknown bug. So fact is you are just angry that you got caught out.

    Actually that had very little to do with it. We were told in a bout 20 forum post from the devs that if we wanted more lo sec space in game we would have to create conflict in lower areas to decrease security levels thus increase the level of ships in the roids for ratting purposes. So yeas we came in with about 200 ships many of which were doing nothing but shield and armor repairs on our bigger ships and we took out the police the navy and 2 gm ships before all were console command killed.

    The fact of the matter is we played within the context of the rules set out to us in a sandbox enviroment and were punished for it. We were not exploiting any glitches or flaws. We may have said no to a 10 request of gms to stop such actions. And we may have argued for some 40 pages on the forums post to which the gms contradicted what they originally stated was do able and the true nature of the game to be a sandbox game....

    So yes while we may have plunged a great amount of highsec space into low sec space as well pk and pod kill a bunch of players as well as gms doing full well what was allowed in the sandbox system only to be punished by a need to keep people from changing games....The sad part is this action is still done today but not in the grand scale that we once did it. Hell now a days killing new players is about as common in eve as buying a plex. Why is it that if what we did some 6 years ago is so wrong that they actually banned many people, myself not included in that, that they allow it to happen now a days yet make no effort to create any sort of balance or way for newer players to even compete against other players. The fact that the game is so inbalanced to any player who has not been in the game for 2-4 years, still exist with no hope of ever changing.

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    To OP, I joined Eve 3 Months ago, and I also love the game for the complexity it offers. My path so far has been to get my skills up to a level where I can deal with level 4 missions easily in my amarr Bs. Went amarr because I love the look of laziest battles. Now that I have a good income stream I am doing exactly as suggested above, I am now levelling an alt to max out skills in 1 particular type of ship. This is going to take months, and it is great to see him evolve. Also setup skills for PI and manufacturing and hauling on the side to mix it up. A wee tip- if you are missioning get a no Tia for salvaging ASAP, takes away a lot of the tedium.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    ^^noctis

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,668Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Bladestrom

    To OP, I joined Eve 3 Months ago, and I also love the game for the complexity it offers. My path so far has been to get my skills up to a level where I can deal with level 4 missions easily in my amarr Bs. Went amarr because I love the look of laziest battles. Now that I have a good income stream I am doing exactly as suggested above, I am now levelling an alt to max out skills in 1 particular type of ship. This is going to take months, and it is great to see him evolve. Also setup skills for PI and manufacturing and hauling on the side to mix it up. A wee tip- if you are missioning get a no Tia for salvaging ASAP, takes away a lot of the tedium.

    Looks like that paragraph went under the autocorrect scalpel. :)  Level 4s are a great source of extra income, especially if you have a corpmate or alt as a salvaging sidekick.

    Hey, as a new player, which of the holiday gifts did you enjoy the most? From the choose-a-gift section, which gift did you end up picking?

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • rondericronderic gelsenkirchenPosts: 56Member
    Here is a good description of how it is further down the line. Good reading.

    http://eveoganda.blogspot.com/2011/12/blog-banter-31-rollercoaster-thrill.html

    You can please some MMO-players all of the time and you can please all MMO-players some of the time but you can't please all MMO-players all of the time.

  • 69Cuda69Cuda none of your fucking bussinesPosts: 251Member

    Eve University bud. Like NOW lol.

    Welcome to Eve

     

    Rule #1 DO NOT FLY WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE.

    Rule #2 See Rule number 1

    Rule #3 Trust no one. NO ONE. Not even yourself.

    Thats about it.

     

    Eve is EvE.

  • kattehuskattehus Posts: 375Member

    Originally posted by sycofiend

    1. At what point in your carrer shoud one seek out a corp, whats the best way to find one ?

    2.  I have seem some racial threads, I rolled Gallenete based off of story line (and supporting chars to maximize skills) reading some threads about them being useless.. should I reconsider or is that just preference ?

    3. I am already seeing where multiple chars have advantages (parallel skill training for example, mining, contracts, combat)  can other races trade from the get go, or does it make sense to make chars of same race ?  also are multiple accounts accepted or frowned upon ?

    1. Do it as soon as possible. Best way to find one is variable. Look at the corp recruitment over at the Eve-O boards, or join something like Eve Uni.

    Alternatively, if you fly with someone regularily, join their corp.

    2. Preference. There's nothing a Minmatar can do that a Gallentean can't. It dictates a few of your starting skills (racial frigate, racial gun), but that's about it. People are probably talking about Gallente ships, but I won't comment on that - every ship is good for something.

    3. Everyone can trade with everyone. Fluffwise, you can do one of the same race, or of that races allies (Cal-Amarr, Gal-Min) - but it's just that, fluff.

    Multiple accounts are accepted, a lot of people multibox. Most people, afaik.

     

    Didn't read anything but the OP. :P

    EvE is really Everyone vs. Everyone. Be wary. Scamming and griefing is accepted in this game, so you need to be a bit paranoid. Find some people whose company you enjoy, play with them, but be wary of scammers and social engineering folks, who'll become your friend only to screw you over.

    That said, I know people who I'd loan billions of isk in a heartbeat. (: Also, shameless plug: Join CIC Indy channel, loads of good people in that channel. Don't be afraid of saying hello.


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  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Originally posted by Bladestrom

    To OP, I joined Eve 3 Months ago, and I also love the game for the complexity it offers. My path so far has been to get my skills up to a level where I can deal with level 4 missions easily in my amarr Bs. Went amarr because I love the look of laziest battles. Now that I have a good income stream I am doing exactly as suggested above, I am now levelling an alt to max out skills in 1 particular type of ship. This is going to take months, and it is great to see him evolve. Also setup skills for PI and manufacturing and hauling on the side to mix it up. A wee tip- if you are missioning get a no Tia for salvaging ASAP, takes away a lot of the tedium.

    Looks like that paragraph went under the autocorrect scalpel. :)  Level 4s are a great source of extra income, especially if you have a corpmate or alt as a salvaging sidekick.

    Hey, as a new player, which of the holiday gifts did you enjoy the most? From the choose-a-gift section, which gift did you end up picking?

    Ye im both terrible at positing from my phone and incredibly lazy when it comes to forums :)  I went for the Zephyr, looks damn fine, although It will have to stay safely tucked away in my hanger.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • BaxslashBaxslash Clinton, ONPosts: 230Member

    Another good point that everyone should stress to new plaers.

     

    ALWAYS READ THE CONTRACTS before you buy, nothing like getting a T1 module, for an ungodly sum, where as you thought that T2 module, was a steal.

    Scamming is part of the game, though, over the past 5 or so, some people are using scripting editors to hide some of this.

  • PericlePericle Baia MarePosts: 2Member

    Glad you enjoy it! 

    EVE is indeed one of a kind, there is no MMO out there that comes close to it. All EVE players will get a dry taste in their mounth when they try these new theme park MMOs that are all over. Theme Park MMOs are a waste of time, the MMO concept should entail a free, sandbox world, a living place, but this is not the case it seems.

    Also if you are still looking for a good corp, check us out: www.syndax.info

     

     

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  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member

    Originally posted by tom_gore

    EVE is also the only game where you can "max out" your character without ever leaving the station you started at ;)

    And this is a good thing? I dont know about you but I want to earn my skills, not have to wait for them.

  • sadeyxsadeyx leicesterPosts: 1,553Member

    There can never be a set amount of time you should take before seeking a player corp to join.

    For some the answer to this could litererally be 'the next day'

    For me it was something like 3-4 months,  because I thoroughly enjoyed my time in the starting corp and met lots of interesting and genuine people.

     

    My advice would simply be to seek a corp when things start to feel a bit routine or mundane,  when this happens your in danger of getting bored, and bordom in Eve is self-perpetuating which means, once it starts it feeds itself and becomes bigger and bigger until you stop playing.

    So you should take this attitude when things start to get mundange "What have I got to lose?"  Nothing, if you think you might stop playing or feel you want a break, then you may as well dive straight into a corp and see what all the fuss is about.

    How long it takes for you to feel this way is different for everyone,  for me it was a very long time, for some its short..

    But I should highlight my point... 'seek a corp,  dont 'join' a corp.. just start looking around, never accept an offer or even apply to join a corp until you've spent a very good amount of time researching the correct corp for you!

     

    If you do join a corp, and there is no 'spark'.. dont not be afraid to leave and join another.

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