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Star Wars The Old Republic Fail

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  • KaocanKaocan Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,270Member

    Hahahaha, OMG!!

    Yes, I know, it totally sucks that you have to actually pay some money to play a new game when it comes out. No you can't pick it up in the store, play for a couple weeks for free and then charge it back to get your money back. So sorry...oh yeah, and it does in fact say you have to set up a sub or use a game card to play, period.

    (DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  • teakboisteakbois Parlin, NJPosts: 2,154Member

    Originally posted by headphones

    in fairness to the OP, he's not complaining about the sub fees, but that he can't use the free play time WITHOUT giving credit card details up front. that's not such an invalid argument. i think he's trying to say he doesn't want to pay to get the one month free after already paying for the box.

    i think some people have jumped on him as though he expected a f2p...

    I think most understand, but this is how every MMO works at launch so getting mad about it is incredibly irrational.

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by AsatrusFire

    I just purchased the Star Wars Old Republic and I'm pig biting mad. See the game doesn't come with a play card. You get 29 days for free but only if you subscribe to a reoccurring billing cycle or purchase a play card. The moment you register for the game the clock begins to tick on the so called free time. Now even games like WoW and Rift offer you free trials so you can check out the game before you buy but not Star Wars. There is nothing on the package that indicates that you have to buy anything more to play either.

    Now imagine how excited your kid will be to open the new game, spend an hour downloading it only to realize he can't play. If you've maxed out your credit card buying Christmas presents as a lot of people do or you simply don't have a credit card you're not going to be the most popular parent on the block.

    I shouldn't have to make this kind of commitment to try a new game when everyone else is giving away real free game time.

    There are going to be a lot of heartbroken  kids come Christmas morning and a lot of angry parents.

     

    Vitually every MMO I have ever played is like this.  You need to set up the billing system before you actually play, free month or not.  The clock starts ticking as soon as you register for all of them, and None (that I know of anyway) had free trials when the game first released.

    You must be new. 

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • headphonesheadphones melbournePosts: 611Member

    Originally posted by AsatrusFire

    This is the exact quote from their site:

    "You have 29 days of play time starting 12.20.2011. You must sign up for a recurring subscription plan or redeem a Game Time Code before you can play. If you sign up for a recurring subscription, you will be billed automatically at the end of your current remaining play time."

    so?

    who reads fine print? the natural expectation is you get a 30-day free trial (29's a bit stingy, isn't it?). it's like going into a friends-with-benefits relationship and being told you need to marry her first. just for, you know, appearances...

    i, for one, expect to put in my credit card details as soon as EA decide they'd like to go for the global market, but i can see the OP's frustration. not everyone plays a lot of mmos. some people do get a bit caught out, and for them it may seem subs are a bit of a scam.

    which, in my opinion, it is.

    though, i admit i'm a bit of a slave and will pay to play if i like the game.

     

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member

    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by AsatrusFire

    I just purchased the Star Wars Old Republic and I'm pig biting mad. See the game doesn't come with a play card. You get 29 days for free but only if you subscribe to a reoccurring billing cycle or purchase a play card. The moment you register for the game the clock begins to tick on the so called free time. Now even games like WoW and Rift offer you free trials so you can check out the game before you buy but not Star Wars. There is nothing on the package that indicates that you have to buy anything more to play either.

    Now imagine how excited your kid will be to open the new game, spend an hour downloading it only to realize he can't play. If you've maxed out your credit card buying Christmas presents as a lot of people do or you simply don't have a credit card you're not going to be the most popular parent on the block.

    I shouldn't have to make this kind of commitment to try a new game when everyone else is giving away real free game time.

    There are going to be a lot of heartbroken  kids come Christmas morning and a lot of angry parents.

     

     Give then your credit card number. Play for 28 days. Cancel. Not a problem.

    You don't even have to do that.  In AOC I set up my cc info to get started, and as soon as I saw I could log in, I canceled the sub so I wouldn't forget.   Every game I have ever played where I didn't upgrade from a free trial has required me to do this.  WoW (when I boght the box there was no 30 day "gamecard"), WAR, AOC, EQ, DAOC, Fallen Earth, all of them.

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by AsatrusFire

    Originally posted by headphones

    in fairness to the OP, he's not complaining about the sub fees, but that he can't use the free play time WITHOUT giving credit card details up front. that's not such an invalid argument. i think he's trying to say he doesn't want to pay to get the one month free after already paying for the box.

    i think some people have jumped on him as though he expected a f2p...

    exactly

    You don't need to pay.  Sign up, provide the info.  Then immedately cancel.  You now get to play. Done.

    Venge

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • OtakunOtakun New Providence, PAPosts: 864Member

    Originally posted by AsatrusFire

    This is the exact quote from their site:

    "You have 29 days of play time starting 12.20.2011. You must sign up for a recurring subscription plan or redeem a Game Time Code before you can play. If you sign up for a recurring subscription, you will be billed automatically at the end of your current remaining play time."

    I asked people in my gaming group who got the game and they said you should have gotten a code that gives you the free days without having to put in any CC info. If you did not then contact SWTOR support to get your code since some were shipped without it.

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Hahahaha, OMG!!

    Yes, I know, it totally sucks that you have to actually pay some money to play a new game when it comes out. No you can't pick it up in the store, play for a couple weeks for free and then charge it back to get your money back. So sorry...oh yeah, and it does in fact say you have to set up a sub or use a game card to play, period.

    Only the last sentance pertains to the topic at hand, why the rest of it?  Is it really necessary to mock people who you can't see?  Not all games do this anymore, they use to but some have changed, usually when they put out a free trial they tend to drop setting up a recurring sub to get your free game time.  I bought my son WoW while it was on sale through blizz, and I didn't have to set up a recurring sub, but when I bought it a few years ago, I had to.  I think the difference is that when I bought the game there was no trial and now there is.  But I do agree, that every time I have played a game before it launched a free trial, I had to set up a recurring sub beforehand.

  • HandaHanda Cary, NCPosts: 45Member

    In the original post, the OP stated

    "I shouldn't have to make this kind of commitment to try a new game when everyone else is giving away real free game time.

    There are going to be a lot of heartbroken  kids come Christmas morning and a lot of angry parents."

    What kind of committment are you talking about?  Listing a CC number?  I promise you that the parents who buy this for their children will have read the box and understood the requirements...they are NO different than every other P2P mmo I've played when the game first released.

     

  • AsatrusFireAsatrusFire Boca Raton, FLPosts: 34Member

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Hahahaha, OMG!!

    Yes, I know, it totally sucks that you have to actually pay some money to play a new game when it comes out. No you can't pick it up in the store, play for a couple weeks for free and then charge it back to get your money back. So sorry...oh yeah, and it does in fact say you have to set up a sub or use a game card to play, period.

    It doesn't say that on the box. They don't tell you that until you've paid for the game and set up your account. The point here is that the box is misleading claiming that you have a 30 day subscription when you have to commit your CC or buy a game card. WoW comes with a game card in the box.

    And to the other poster with the "feeling", I do have a reoccurring subscription to WoW (obviously I have at least one CC) and I have for several years but when I started playing WoW my game came with a 30 day game card and I could play immediately upon download.

    The point here is, if you asked your parents for this for Christmas make sure they buy you a game card and/or are aware that they will have to cough up their CC Christmas morning and if you're buying it for someone buy them a game card too or it's going to be a miserable Christmas morning for someone.

    I also think the misleading quote of the package is pretty fail.

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,517Member Uncommon

    I havent set  up a credit card payment account, and am playing just fine.  Dunno what the OP is talking about.  I havent even seen a payment page yet.

  • HandaHanda Cary, NCPosts: 45Member

    WoW did not offer 30 day game cards back in 2005 when it first released.  WoW required a sub WITH CC # to play and get your 30 free days....just like TOR.  You obviously didn't play WoW on release day.  I did.

  • OtakunOtakun New Providence, PAPosts: 864Member

    Originally posted by Myrdynn

    I havent set  up a credit card payment account, and am playing just fine.  Dunno what the OP is talking about.  I havent even seen a payment page yet.

    cause his box didnt come with the registration code that some boxes were missing.

  • 8BitAvatar8BitAvatar Frozen Tundra, WIPosts: 196Member

    I think I can safely say that 99.99999% of the people who asked for this game for Christmas, are buying it for someone else, or are buying it for themselves, know how this type of game works and the steps they'll have to take to play it.

    The people who are dumbfounded and shocked when they find out a CC or game card is required to play fail as consumers.

    That's on them, not Bioware.

  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,032Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by dannydeuce

    Welcome to the 21st century.  If you can't afford 15 bucks on your credit card and find yourself maxxing out your credit card to pay for presents...NEWS FLASH you shouldn't be wasting your money on a video game.  You have much bigger priorities to take care of.  I mean seriously, this is why you label this game as a "fail"?  Man...

    Why would you want to pay for a month subscription when you kinda already payed it it? It's included in the box.

  • dubyahitedubyahite Lincoln, NEPosts: 2,483Member
    Op, welcome to every sub based mmo ever.

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  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,032Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by 8BitAvatar

    The people who are dumbfounded and shocked when they find out a CC or game card is required to play fail as consumers.

    That's on them, not Bioware.

    It just does not make sense to the slightest and it's not standard either. If you offer game-cards it dumb to tell people to get one first before they get there "free" 30 days.

  • huskie77huskie77 Nowhere, NEPosts: 354Member

    This thread has lowered the collective IQ of this entire forum, which is saying a lot for MMORPG.  The worst part is that the OP continues to stand by his point despite 5 pages of people pointing out it is an issue of common sense. Stop feeding the trolls.

     

    you don't have to pay anything to get your free time. However, credit cards are still used as a form of implied parental consent or proper identification of an adult user.

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  • dubyahitedubyahite Lincoln, NEPosts: 2,483Member
    Every sub based game does this. Every one of them. Says right on the box that credit card is required for play.

    Learn to read?

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  • nyxiumnyxium ManchesterPosts: 1,221Member Uncommon

    GIVE US YOUR MONEY. Yummy yummy eechawowwa.

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  • kishekishe aitooPosts: 1,978Member Uncommon

    to OP..check front of the box...beneath the Lucasarts and bioware logos...WHAT DOES IT SAY?

     

    Your own damn fault for not understanding written language

  • DerrosDerros Posts: 1,077Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Grotar89

    AoC and WAR let you play 30 free days without setting up sub plan.

    Incorrect.  I had to set up a subscription when I first tried to play both those games.

  • PelaajaPelaaja HevonkuusiPosts: 697Member

    Originally posted by Derros

    Originally posted by Grotar89



    AoC and WAR let you play 30 free days without setting up sub plan.

    Incorrect.  I had to set up a subscription when I first tried to play both those games.

    And with AoC you had to be very careful to REMOVE CC INFO when you decided to cancel your subscription.

    Which is a good practice with every online game if you decide to cancel.

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  • laseritlaserit Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,945Member Uncommon

    Restaraunts charge you after the meal and fast food charges you before the meal....

    That really pisses me off

    Think I'll go QQ

    "If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  • dubyahitedubyahite Lincoln, NEPosts: 2,483Member
    I remember WAR charging me 12 subs in one month while I was unsubbed. It was awesome.

    Actually there is one game I remember that didn't need a cc for the free trial. Perpetuum, the mech based eve clone. Of course that game doesn't auto renew, you have to go in and buy a serial key for sub time each month and you could trade them to other people.

    That's a very small game with a non standard payment system. They were trying to emulate the way you can buy sub time in eve without building it into the game.

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