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PvP and PvE exploits still in place?!

TealaTeala SomewherePosts: 7,430Member Uncommon

OK I am not going to go into details, but is it true that the PvP and PvE exploits that were in beta are still there and Bioware hasn't fixed them?   That is crazy insane.   We're seeing another AC2 launch all over again.    Back when AC2 launched there were different exploits people used to level to max level in just 30 hours after the game launched.   I said I wouldn't go into detail, be I understand that the exploits that we beta testers reported in beta are still in the game and people are using them to their full extent?!

My friend said that people are using the exploits.   I asked him if he was going to use them and he said he thought about it, but decided against it, because what if Bioware decided to punish players that make use of it.   Good call on his part, but terrible on Biowares part for not fixing these exploits that we clearly pointed out to Bioware during beta.  Bad on them.

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  • David_LopanDavid_Lopan Madison, WIPosts: 808Member Uncommon

    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

  • TealaTeala SomewherePosts: 7,430Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,778Member Uncommon

    let them exploit, so BW send a massive wave of bannings like Blizzard did once. Then enjoy the massive QQs as a result

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,778Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon
    The only people this would really hurt were players who intended to rush to the top the fair way, for everyone else there was always going to be people ahead of them in levels, no real difference if its 10 or 40, they're still gonna get ganked.

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    until they corner the AH, grief everybody they can PVP wise, and complain there is no content at 50.

  • David_LopanDavid_Lopan Madison, WIPosts: 808Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

       Can you expalin why this is a bad thing on a pvp server (i mean it shouldnt be there for sure and BW is looking into it) . I am being honest, i dont get it. What does this exploit do? Do you mean people will just level faster and getting bored and leave?

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Originally posted by Teala


    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

       Can you expalin why this is a bad thing on a pvp server (i mean it shouldnt be there for sure and BW is looking into it) . I am being honest, i dont get it. What does this exploit do? Do you mean people will just level faster and getting bored and leave?

    hi I'm a higher level toon than you, I'ma go back to the area you are leveling through and kill you repeatedly cus i exploited to 50 and you are stuck at 25.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Raleigh, NCPosts: 2,773Member

    I've seen these kind of defense post for issues like these with previouse mmorpgs....this is very interesting.

     

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  • just2duhjust2duh City, NSPosts: 1,290Member

     I can't believe it needs to be explained.

     If you can't see the problems this will cause for both PvP and PvE servers then I really don't know what to say.. I think i'll have lost all hope in humanity.

  • MatriarcheXMatriarcheX Los Angeles, CAPosts: 159Member

    Well. This is certainly bad news for Bioware.

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Originally posted by Teala



    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

       Can you expalin why this is a bad thing on a pvp server (i mean it shouldnt be there for sure and BW is looking into it) . I am being honest, i dont get it. What does this exploit do? Do you mean people will just level faster and getting bored and leave?

    hi I'm a higher level toon than you, I'ma go back to the area you are leveling through and kill you repeatedly cus i exploited to 50 and you are stuck at 25.

     

    Man up and get used to it, that's how most of us level up on a PVP server as we don't have the luxury of racing ahead of everyone to the top. And PVP's claim they are hardcore. Ha!

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
    "I don't have one life, I have many lives" - Grunty
    Still currently "subscribed" to EVE, and only EVE!!!
    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by just2duh

     I can't believe it needs to be explained.
     If you can't see the problems this will cause for both PvP and PvE servers then I really don't know what to say.. I think i'll have lost all hope in humanity.

     

    If you can't see how this really impacts no one really there's no hope for those who think like you.

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
    "I don't have one life, I have many lives" - Grunty
    Still currently "subscribed" to EVE, and only EVE!!!
    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Originally posted by Teala


    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

       Can you expalin why this is a bad thing on a pvp server (i mean it shouldnt be there for sure and BW is looking into it) . I am being honest, i dont get it. What does this exploit do? Do you mean people will just level faster and getting bored and leave?

    hi I'm a higher level toon than you, I'ma go back to the area you are leveling through and kill you repeatedly cus i exploited to 50 and you are stuck at 25.

     

    Man up and get used to it, that's how most of us level up on a PVP server as we don't have the luxury of racing ahead of everyone to the top. And PVP's claim they are hardcore. Ha!

    I agree, I myself was explaining to him the problem.  I'll be rolling on a PVP server with my IRL friends, ganking happens.

    Been PVPin since UO, this no death penalty stuff makes death almost enjoyable.

  • David_LopanDavid_Lopan Madison, WIPosts: 808Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by just2duh

     I can't believe it needs to be explained.

     If you can't see the problems this will cause for both PvP and PvE servers then I really don't know what to say.. I think i'll have lost all hope in humanity.

     

    If you can't see how this really impacts no one really there's no hope for those who think like you.

       Thats what I was thinking. I am sure BW will nip it in the bud sooner than later.

  • roojrooj Franklin, KYPosts: 20Member

    This is why I laugh when people complain about the state of the game in beta and people respond "it's just beta, it'll be fixed by launch."

    Wrong.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rojo6934


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

     

    I said nothing about everybody. I was talking about the people that don't enjoy level grind. It's a pointless time sink. Skipping them effect nobody but the player that skips it. Endgame grind is still the same for everybody. People that like levels cam still level grind their ass off. Let players that font like that level grind to skip it. It doesn't effect you at all!!!!!!

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Originally posted by Teala



    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Honestly, those exploits are just hurting those using them to powerlevel (boring). They are choosing to make the game worse for themselves. Exploit away, I'll be just fine

    On PvP servers though that is a bad thing.   I only bring this up because I saw a good game come tumbling to the ground due to exploits not being fixed before a games launch.   This is not good news for players in the least bit.

       Can you expalin why this is a bad thing on a pvp server (i mean it shouldnt be there for sure and BW is looking into it) . I am being honest, i dont get it. What does this exploit do? Do you mean people will just level faster and getting bored and leave?

    hi I'm a higher level toon than you, I'ma go back to the area you are leveling through and kill you repeatedly cus i exploited to 50 and you are stuck at 25.

     

    how is that any different from players actions in every other MMO without fast levels? Your point is moot.

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  • David_LopanDavid_Lopan Madison, WIPosts: 808Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by rojo6934

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

     

    I said nothing about everybody. I was talking about the people that don't enjoy level grind. It's a pointless time sink. Skipping them effect nobody but the player that skips it. Endgame grind is still the same for everybody. People that like levels cam still level grind their ass off. Let players that font like that level grind to skip it. It doesn't effect you at all!!!!!!

       So you would rather loop that last 10 mins of a movie endlessly then watch the whole thing. To each there own

  • stayontargetstayontarget Tacoma, WAPosts: 6,068Member Uncommon

    Meeting the deadline takes priorty over fixing the game like bugs, explots, UI, Textures, end game content, Mob AI, etc....etc....etc.  

     

    Now do you see how it works for EA.

     

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aquazen


    Originally posted by MMOExposed


    Originally posted by rojo6934


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

     

    I said nothing about everybody. I was talking about the people that don't enjoy level grind. It's a pointless time sink. Skipping them effect nobody but the player that skips it. Endgame grind is still the same for everybody. People that like levels cam still level grind their ass off. Let players that font like that level grind to skip it. It doesn't effect you at all!!!!!!

       So you would rather loop that last 10 mins of a movie endlessly then watch the whole thing. To each there own

     

    You are comparing apples and oranges. Unlike a movie, a themepark truly starts at the end of the level. Not the first level. I rather skip that meaningless level grind time sink and start playing the real game that I will have to face from cap onward

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  • David_LopanDavid_Lopan Madison, WIPosts: 808Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Originally posted by MMOExposed


    Originally posted by rojo6934


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

     

    I said nothing about everybody. I was talking about the people that don't enjoy level grind. It's a pointless time sink. Skipping them effect nobody but the player that skips it. Endgame grind is still the same for everybody. People that like levels cam still level grind their ass off. Let players that font like that level grind to skip it. It doesn't effect you at all!!!!!!

       So you would rather loop that last 10 mins of a movie endlessly then watch the whole thing. To each there own

     

    You are comparing apples and oranges. Unlike a movie, a themepark truly starts at the end of the level. Not the first level. I rather skip that meaningless level grind time sink and start playing the real game that I will have to face from cap onward

       ? , cap onward, this is a BW game man

  • fonyfony hempstead, NYPosts: 755Member

    this is not too good, but of course like RIFT's exploit people will play it down, meanwhile large amounts of players do not return when the free period is up.

  • just2duhjust2duh City, NSPosts: 1,290Member

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by Aquazen

    Originally posted by MMOExposed


    Originally posted by rojo6934


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    What's wrong with skipping level? Why we need low level contents? If you know how to play your class from the beta, you should be allowed the optoon to skip to endgame were the real game starts. That doesnt effect anybody other than themselves. I don't see the issue here

    not everyone plays mmos for endgame content, if everyone wanted that, developers would sell you the game with instant lvl cap so you jump right to end game

     

    I said nothing about everybody. I was talking about the people that don't enjoy level grind. It's a pointless time sink. Skipping them effect nobody but the player that skips it. Endgame grind is still the same for everybody. People that like levels cam still level grind their ass off. Let players that font like that level grind to skip it. It doesn't effect you at all!!!!!!

       So you would rather loop that last 10 mins of a movie endlessly then watch the whole thing. To each there own

     

    You are comparing apples and oranges. Unlike a movie, a themepark truly starts at the end of the level. Not the first level. I rather skip that meaningless level grind time sink and start playing the real game that I will have to face from cap onward

     Let us know how you feel about the real game when you've litterally run out of things to do before your first paid month even starts.

     That's probably one of the biggest problems going to happen if they don't fix and reverse the exploit, people will just get bored even faster, and as usual grow impatient waiting for updates, then call it quits and cancel (and also scream GAME FAILS because of all the subs dropping).

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