I know its early days and has a lot to work on, but i am having fun and think it has great potential. So if me sticking with it maye help it along and turn into something good then i will stay with it.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Imo the only real viable sandbox is Vanguard also with the devs giveing it some love at last there is still life in the old dog yet,but any sandbox nut will be watching the Archeage vids and drooling somewhat.
As a single player sandbox Skyrim will come to life after the CK hits as the modders still have managed over 1000 mods with rudimentary tools quite staggering if u think about it.
Also tried the SWTOR beta was not to impressed Bioware went this route but Themparks do pull in the masses and i did enjoy it to a certain extent so still on the backburner for me.
Reading through this thread, I think I'm going to fire up Vanguard again. My tigerdude and his camel need to go adventuring again.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Eve online for now. Got a great deal in e- mail and couldn't pass the offer. It was nice to revisit after one year break.
And hey i am not bitter, i understand that different people enjoy different things.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6. US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian. Subs will be so low there is no need for more Snoocky-How many servers? The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
People should check out ArcheAge. Sandpark game. Best of Sandbox and Themepark features all in one game. It just started CBT4 yesterday and so far theres a good amount of videos showing the starter areas.
Remember. If you dont know ArcheAge, read what the content it has before you watch the videos else you might think its another themepark WoW without actually knowing about the game and what its trying to achieve.
If I had to make a brief description about it.
If Ultima Online, Asherons Call:Darktide, Dark Ages of Camelot, WoW and Darkfall were to have a big fucking orgy, theyd come out with ArcheAge. And Ive played all the game ive listed above minus UO. If that doesnt catch your attention. Then you might be into more linear type WoW clone MMOs and thats fine.
Dont tease us with Arheage, its real real far for its release in the west
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Well ive seen the video's from archage thats one i surely won't play a lineage clone with terible white paled skinny elves uugghh terible looking game and gameplay also grind grind grind.
For now ill stick with SKYRIM:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
I confess, I'm a closet sandbox gamer, and truthfully EVE is the only one I spent any real time in. (3.5 yrs).
So I'm currently playing EQ2 but I will be playing Skyrim come Christmas to keep my bitter sandbox gamer street cred up.
Closet sandbox fan my arse. I believe you once referred to the boards as a place for PVP.
The one thing I have always respected about ya Kyl is that you keep it real. Instead of trying to pass your love of this niche sub genre as something everyone else should be doing, you understand that folks dont need to validate what they enjoy.
I wish more sandbox fans would act like you, or Loke666.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
From what I can tell, they are playing Themepark Basher Online. Patch 189.4: The Launch of SWTOR, just came out and they are chewing through content at a record pace.
don't knock it till you try it brah :P
haha I know too well
I'm still playing SWG taking lots of pics and vids. Been playing since June 03. Am I a bitter sandboxer? Yeah at times heh.
I firmly believe/hope we have not seen the last of SWG. Hopefully, it will come back some day under some incarnation...
I just want to see a new mmorpg come out that does what SWG was originally trying to do. I mean ffs even now, in its current frankenstein state, SWG has more unique features and variety of content than TOR and GW2 combined. Can we please, please get another mmo that has dedicated non-combat classes?
sorry. /endrant
lol...It's ok mate...we understand the frustration.
righteho, old-school, golden oldie craving a new virtual world here. Playing and loving Eve, and just started getting back into GW1, with the morivation of trying to hit 30 achievment points - really makes it fun and interesting when played as an old school RPG - recommend it for those that love big goals that stretch over months. And finally, Skyrim, im back to my old Morrowind/dont play until the next big mods comes out times -awsome, gaming is damn fine just now. GW2 and Archeage for the next 2 years to look forward too. My glass is not only half full, its sloshing about a bit
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Like so many others, Skyrim. It is more MMO than any MMO currently out (or coming out anytime soon), kind of a sad refection on the state of things really.
I confess, I'm a closet sandbox gamer, and truthfully EVE is the only one I spent any real time in. (3.5 yrs).
So I'm currently playing EQ2 but I will be playing Skyrim come Christmas to keep my bitter sandbox gamer street cred up.
Closet sandbox fan my arse. I believe you once referred to the boards as a place for PVP.
The one thing I have always respected about ya Kyl is that you keep it real. Instead of trying to pass your love of this niche sub genre as something everyone else should be doing, you understand that folks dont need to validate what they enjoy.
I wish more sandbox fans would act like you, or Loke666.
Well, I regret missing some of the early sandbox titles such as UO and SWG when they were in their glory, but after playing EVE for a time I grew to love what they offered and have just been waiting for the chance to play a few more. (I even bought Xyson and let them keep the cash)
But I will agree, its a niche market and there's no way for it to appeal to a large market share, mostly because even amongst our selves we sandbox gamers can't come to an agreement on what a sandbox game is or how it should play.
I believe in safe zones such as EVE has, or loot drop mechanics like Shadowbane that protected the gear you wore, but dropped what you had in your backpack (including gold). Other folks prefer FFA full looting, you aren't safe even from your own guildmates friendly fire type mechanics which I would never tolerate.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I'm just wondering because quite frankly I'm beginning to think that since we're all on this hardcore mission on playing a GOOD sandbox MMMO and they aren't any....we're possibly playing something else to fill that void a bit.
I think right now I'm playing a mix between some EVE Online (only really skilling up right now because I know better not to PvP right now)... League of Legends.... as a good MOBA, Fallen Earth (I'm a huge hardcore post apocalyptic setting fan please give me a good sandbox mmo), and Global Agenda as a decent fps mmo.
So what are you guys playing?
i think you sandbox lovers are sitting home playing some game inside your head that you think is just the easiest thing to make but think nobody has the balls to make it.
amirite?
You know me too well, it seems :P
I just finished writing this blog which has some ideas for MMORPG, but not necessarily sandbox type, just few things that could do something to freshen-up this utterly stale state of our favorite game genre.
EVE Online - Usually pair it with League of Legends for a bit of gaming balance, but they have been doing too many radical changes/nerfs to really enjoy playing it anymore (talking about LoL).
EVE has been getting more fun with the patch, I'm looking forward to getting into some PvP.
Watching the Skyrim craze has me wanting to fire up Darkfall, but for better or worse they don't let you trial the game more than 1 time - Their loss.
I'll probably end up in ToR, though there's a small chance I get Starcraft or something instead.
EVE Online - Usually pair it with League of Legends for a bit of gaming balance, but they have been doing too many radical changes/nerfs to really enjoy playing it anymore (talking about LoL).
EVE has been getting more fun with the patch, I'm looking forward to getting into some PvP.
Watching the Skyrim craze has me wanting to fire up Darkfall, but for better or worse they don't let you trial the game more than 1 time - Their loss.
I'll probably end up in ToR, though there's a small chance I get Starcraft or something instead.
Just make new trial on other pc with new email or do it somewhere else and you can play many times free trial Darkfall.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
EVE Online - Usually pair it with League of Legends for a bit of gaming balance, but they have been doing too many radical changes/nerfs to really enjoy playing it anymore (talking about LoL).
EVE has been getting more fun with the patch, I'm looking forward to getting into some PvP.
Watching the Skyrim craze has me wanting to fire up Darkfall, but for better or worse they don't let you trial the game more than 1 time - Their loss.
I'll probably end up in ToR, though there's a small chance I get Starcraft or something instead.
Just make new trial on other pc with new email or do it somewhere else and you can play many times free trial Darkfall.
I've trialed darkfall 2 or 3 times (purchased once), so I know this works. I even think that I did them on the same computer from the same IP (with different emails).
Unfortunately, I have an issue with my Pc, which refuses to even POST. So will have to spend tomorrow diagnosing the problem, then fixing it.
I plan to play Wurm Online - indie full-sandbox title (charges 5 Euros a month for a Premium - no restrictions - character) which allows players to terraform and build structures, houses, etc out of different materials. Skill-based game where skills are increased from physically doing the actual action e.g. need to feed yourself? Forage, hunt or fish for ingredients, put them in a clay-bowl or saucepan and then place on a fire until served. Except first, you need to find clay to make a pot, then place the pot in a fire to finish it. Start a fire? Use flint with kindling? No kindling? Chop down a tree to make logs (to fuel your fire) and make a little bit of kindling to get the fire going.
Full- range of activities including but not limited to full terra-forming, crafting, animal taming / riding, tree-planting, ship-building and sailing, and of course PvP with FFA loot on PvP servers. Plus, lots of other features.
Choice of servers from 3 Freedom maps (PvE), 3 Wildnerness maps (PvP) and Epic (PvP with all characters starting from 0 skill, with double-speed skill gains - proving very popular).
The official forum is the place to seek info and interact with the smallish community (maybe 900 players ish across all servers / maps).
If I do decide to upgrade my Pc next Spring (after my SE Asia trip). I'll most likely play AoC [Age of Conan]. Or L2. Still need to get back to Baldur's Gate, then play Ultima 7. After that, Planescape Torment et al.
Of course, the never-ending camp of Chinese and Japanese women.
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."
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About to play SWTOR.
Dawntide here!
I know its early days and has a lot to work on, but i am having fun and think it has great potential. So if me sticking with it maye help it along and turn into something good then i will stay with it.
Second Life.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
I'm playing Mortal Online, and always dabbling with EvE.
Will no doubt give SWTOR a shot as well.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Skyrim, Saint's Row 3 and EVE Online.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Skyrim... and playing on and off whatever MMOs i feel like at moment.
Right now trying DCOU and Lineage2
Imo the only real viable sandbox is Vanguard also with the devs giveing it some love at last there is still life in the old dog yet,but any sandbox nut will be watching the Archeage vids and drooling somewhat.
As a single player sandbox Skyrim will come to life after the CK hits as the modders still have managed over 1000 mods with rudimentary tools quite staggering if u think about it.
Also tried the SWTOR beta was not to impressed Bioware went this route but Themparks do pull in the masses and i did enjoy it to a certain extent so still on the backburner for me.
Reading through this thread, I think I'm going to fire up Vanguard again. My tigerdude and his camel need to go adventuring again.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Eve online for now. Got a great deal in e- mail and couldn't pass the offer. It was nice to revisit after one year break.
And hey i am not bitter, i understand that different people enjoy different things.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6.
US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian.
Subs will be so low there is no need for more
Snoocky-How many servers?
The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
Dont tease us with Arheage, its real real far for its release in the west
I confess, I'm a closet sandbox gamer, and truthfully EVE is the only one I spent any real time in. (3.5 yrs).
So I'm currently playing EQ2 but I will be playing Skyrim come Christmas to keep my bitter sandbox gamer street cred up.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I love sandbox games, but until one comes out, i'll enjoy SWTOR and TSW and GW2. Probably not at the same time.
I self identify as a monkey.
Well ive seen the video's from archage thats one i surely won't play a lineage clone with terible white paled skinny elves uugghh terible looking game and gameplay also grind grind grind.
For now ill stick with SKYRIM:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
Closet sandbox fan my arse. I believe you once referred to the boards as a place for PVP.
The one thing I have always respected about ya Kyl is that you keep it real. Instead of trying to pass your love of this niche sub genre as something everyone else should be doing, you understand that folks dont need to validate what they enjoy.
I wish more sandbox fans would act like you, or Loke666.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
lol...It's ok mate...we understand the frustration.
righteho, old-school, golden oldie craving a new virtual world here. Playing and loving Eve, and just started getting back into GW1, with the morivation of trying to hit 30 achievment points - really makes it fun and interesting when played as an old school RPG - recommend it for those that love big goals that stretch over months. And finally, Skyrim, im back to my old Morrowind/dont play until the next big mods comes out times -awsome, gaming is damn fine just now. GW2 and Archeage for the next 2 years to look forward too. My glass is not only half full, its sloshing about a bit
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Playing? Nothing.
Subscribed to EVE. I log in every now and then, check markets fly a ship here and there. Troll jita local. Waiting for Tera.
m'eh
Like so many others, Skyrim. It is more MMO than any MMO currently out (or coming out anytime soon), kind of a sad refection on the state of things really.
Also Civ5, because it is fun.
Well, I regret missing some of the early sandbox titles such as UO and SWG when they were in their glory, but after playing EVE for a time I grew to love what they offered and have just been waiting for the chance to play a few more. (I even bought Xyson and let them keep the cash)
But I will agree, its a niche market and there's no way for it to appeal to a large market share, mostly because even amongst our selves we sandbox gamers can't come to an agreement on what a sandbox game is or how it should play.
I believe in safe zones such as EVE has, or loot drop mechanics like Shadowbane that protected the gear you wore, but dropped what you had in your backpack (including gold). Other folks prefer FFA full looting, you aren't safe even from your own guildmates friendly fire type mechanics which I would never tolerate.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
You know me too well, it seems :P
I just finished writing this blog which has some ideas for MMORPG, but not necessarily sandbox type, just few things that could do something to freshen-up this utterly stale state of our favorite game genre.
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/wizyy/122011/22351_Practical-stuff-that-can-be-implemented
Anyway, back on topic, I play World of Tanks, Civilization 5, bit of Skyrim.
NEW IDEAS that can refresh the STALE state of MMORPGs
SWTOR and Skyrim.
The days of the QUALITY sandbox MMORPG are gone. Might as well play something else now.
EVE Online - Usually pair it with League of Legends for a bit of gaming balance, but they have been doing too many radical changes/nerfs to really enjoy playing it anymore (talking about LoL).
EVE has been getting more fun with the patch, I'm looking forward to getting into some PvP.
Watching the Skyrim craze has me wanting to fire up Darkfall, but for better or worse they don't let you trial the game more than 1 time - Their loss.
I'll probably end up in ToR, though there's a small chance I get Starcraft or something instead.
Just make new trial on other pc with new email or do it somewhere else and you can play many times free trial Darkfall.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
I've trialed darkfall 2 or 3 times (purchased once), so I know this works. I even think that I did them on the same computer from the same IP (with different emails).
No MMOGs since Ryzom last year.
Unfortunately, I have an issue with my Pc, which refuses to even POST. So will have to spend tomorrow diagnosing the problem, then fixing it.
I plan to play Wurm Online - indie full-sandbox title (charges 5 Euros a month for a Premium - no restrictions - character) which allows players to terraform and build structures, houses, etc out of different materials. Skill-based game where skills are increased from physically doing the actual action e.g. need to feed yourself? Forage, hunt or fish for ingredients, put them in a clay-bowl or saucepan and then place on a fire until served. Except first, you need to find clay to make a pot, then place the pot in a fire to finish it. Start a fire? Use flint with kindling? No kindling? Chop down a tree to make logs (to fuel your fire) and make a little bit of kindling to get the fire going.
Full- range of activities including but not limited to full terra-forming, crafting, animal taming / riding, tree-planting, ship-building and sailing, and of course PvP with FFA loot on PvP servers. Plus, lots of other features.
Choice of servers from 3 Freedom maps (PvE), 3 Wildnerness maps (PvP) and Epic (PvP with all characters starting from 0 skill, with double-speed skill gains - proving very popular).
The official forum is the place to seek info and interact with the smallish community (maybe 900 players ish across all servers / maps).
If I do decide to upgrade my Pc next Spring (after my SE Asia trip). I'll most likely play AoC [Age of Conan]. Or L2. Still need to get back to Baldur's Gate, then play Ultima 7. After that, Planescape Torment et al.
Of course, the never-ending camp of Chinese and Japanese women.
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."