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World of Warcraft: 4.3 Changes Everything

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  • Mariner-80Mariner-80 Winchester, VAPosts: 347Member

    Originally posted by Nadia

    what I dont like about 4.3

     

    with Cata, all under level 60 outdoor heroic quests were changed to solo player

    with 4.3, the same was done for BC / LK content  -- there are no more heroic outdoor quests

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.3.0

     

    the only heroic quests under level 80 you will find in dungeons now

    WOW was never hard, but removing more challenge reduces the fun


     

    Strangely enough, this was, imo, the BEST thing about patch 4.3.

    Maybe you haven't been in Outland or Northrend lately? There's virtually NO ONE around. Obtaining one group quest after another in these zones -- only to have to abandon them later because there were 0 to 2 other players in your zone -- is a major drag. Outland and Northrend are a whole lot less frustrating now.

    I think MMO devs need to learn that, over time, lower-level zones and dungeons become, for all intents and purposes, single-player zones. Blizzard, at least, understands this. And that's OK. It's just how it is. Changing quest requirements to reflect that reality is simply common sense.

    Personally, I'd like to see similar adjustments for the low-level dungeons. Even with LFG, the wait to find groups is becoming longer and longer and the odds of landing in a "fail group" when you finally find one are on the rise.

  • ZylaxxZylaxx Erlanger, KYPosts: 2,574Member

    Originally posted by Alalala

    Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.

    hate to say this but WoW has always catered to the kiddie market.  At least since BC's release.

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  • jeremyjodesjeremyjodes antioch, ORPosts: 679Member

    WoWs changing. you cant expect it to remain the same forever. I hate on WoW far to much. It's a game for kids young adults and family's. For what it is pretty amazing after all these years to still be a force like it is. and no i didn't get payed by blizzard to say this.

    I have seen so much WoW hate these last few weeks/years it kind of made me smell the roses about my hater like views on a darn video game.

    Still a good MMO and it will be for many years possibly.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Posts: 2,209Member Uncommon

    While i was frowning on the lore-hounds for years, nowadays i think to approach a game via it's lore is the best thing to do for longterm playing. I noticed way too late that i missed a ton of WoW while taking the fast lane like "just tell me how many X i've got to kill ...k ...brb".

    But then, there are always alot of people pushing you. "60/70/80 yet? not? get on, we need a healer" and such. Or you log in and that friend who promised you to play together already got 3 more level under the belt and you've got to hurry up again.

    After years of playing, i was too burned out to give it another try and to actually read what i'm doing there. In my next game, i will shurely do so.

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  • gaugemewgaugemew Madison, WIPosts: 158Member

    You say everything changes and list not one thing game mechanically that changes.

  • wrathzillawrathzilla Joplin, MOPosts: 75Member

    So with the dragons now mortal, does that mean after MoP we can play as a dragon kin?

    I mean, the worgen are basically the exact same (except with a wolf skin) and they're introducing a neutral race already.. why not another one? 

    We all know that the X-pac after MoP will be the Emerald Dream, and being a dragonkin has been one of the most requested races like ever.

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  • AbdarAbdar Thunder Bay, ONPosts: 400Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by gaugemew

    You say everything changes and list not one thing game mechanically that changes.

    Read again.. he was talking mostly about the lore of the game, and the fact that, there's really no more bad guys anymore.

    To people who like lore.. (not one of them myself sadly) that can change everything.

  • Turkish4676Turkish4676 San Bernardino, CAPosts: 87Member

    Lore or game mechanics. Does the dev team not always change the world completely with a new patch or expansion?

  • bloodbonebloodbone Calgary, ABPosts: 142Member



    Originally posted by Alalala



    Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.




     

    [Mod Edit]

    First off most north american WoW players WILL try SWTOR so WoW is the majority of your player base.  In fact the game was basicly designed for bored WoW kids.

    Second: Having tried the game briefly SWTOR seems to be WoW on Super Easy Mode.  If you find Wow easy SWTOR will be a joke.  Thats PvE and PvP complexity

    Third: SWTOR also has the most brutal AI and no complexity to the UI whatsoever.  It truely the simplest MMO I've ever tried.  Even a child of 6 could play this game with ease 

     

     


  • asrlohzasrlohz UddevallaPosts: 645Member

    Originally posted by umcorian

    If, somehow, WoW continues to be the big thing going from 2012 onward with the MoP expansion, I'm not going to blame Blizzard or the people who play WoW. I'm going to blame its competition for being so uninspired and narrowminded that Blizzard BEAT them with Pandas.

    "Look at us. We're Blizzard. We can take our companies practical joke from 2003, make an expansion revolved around them - throw in POKEMON for good measure - and STILL beat you."

    All I can say... Bioware, Arenanet, Funcom... step up your game. Because, I sure as hell don't want to see what WoW 6.0 has in store. How about, talking multi-colored Dinosaurs, in OUTER SPACE?




     

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  • Xstatic912Xstatic912 New York, NYPosts: 365Member

    Originally posted by bloodbone



    Originally posted by Alalala



    Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.





     

    [Mod Edit]

    First off most north american WoW players WILL try SWTOR so WoW is the majority of your player base.  In fact the game was basicly designed for bored WoW kids.

    Second: Having tried the game briefly SWTOR seems to be WoW on Super Easy Mode.  If you find Wow easy SWTOR will be a joke.  Thats PvE and PvP complexity

    Third: SWTOR also has the most brutal AI and no complexity to the UI whatsoever.  It truely the simplest MMO I've ever tried.  Even a child of 6 could play this game with ease 

     

     



    OK, but try to take in note who there target audience is (the masses). SWTOR isn't catering to the niche crowd who wants a revolution in the mmo genre.

    There major aim is to turn a profit, which i think they will do but as for longevity thats another matter of time and patience of MMO players...

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,928Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Abdar

    Read again.. he was talking mostly about the lore of the game, and the fact that, there's really no more bad guys anymore.

    To people who like lore.. (not one of them myself sadly) that can change everything.

    What happened to the Burning Legion and their homeworld?  They just sitting around watching soaps?

  • Shatter30Shatter30 Waterford, MIPosts: 485Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Xstatic912

    Originally posted by bloodbone




    Originally posted by Alalala



    Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.





     

    [Mod Edit]

    First off most north american WoW players WILL try SWTOR so WoW is the majority of your player base.  In fact the game was basicly designed for bored WoW kids.

    Second: Having tried the game briefly SWTOR seems to be WoW on Super Easy Mode.  If you find Wow easy SWTOR will be a joke.  Thats PvE and PvP complexity

    Third: SWTOR also has the most brutal AI and no complexity to the UI whatsoever.  It truely the simplest MMO I've ever tried.  Even a child of 6 could play this game with ease 

     

     



    OK, but try to take in note who there target audience is (the masses). SWTOR isn't catering to the niche crowd who wants a revolution in the mmo genre.

    There major aim is to turn a profit, which i think they will do but as for longevity thats another matter of time and patience of MMO players...

    Bad news for you, every MMO company is out to make a profit

  • Xstatic912Xstatic912 New York, NYPosts: 365Member

    Originally posted by asrlohz



    Originally posted by umcorian



    If, somehow, WoW continues to be the big thing going from 2012 onward with the MoP expansion, I'm not going to blame Blizzard or the people who play WoW. I'm going to blame its competition for being so uninspired and narrowminded that Blizzard BEAT them with Pandas.





    "Look at us. We're Blizzard. We can take our companies practical joke from 2003, make an expansion revolved around them - throw in POKEMON for good measure - and STILL beat you."





    All I can say... Bioware, Arenanet, Funcom... step up your game. Because, I sure as hell don't want to see what WoW 6.0 has in store. How about, talking multi-colored Dinosaurs, in OUTER SPACE?










     

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    LOL, but i get the feeling this Xpac will have a shorter cycle than the others. Reason being 1) There is no major boss to fight (seems all of them are resting), and 2) Seems pvp is the focus with them mentioning the Alliance & Horde are back at it..

    I expect this xpac to get 2 major content patch before they announce another xpac.

     

  • erikk3189erikk3189 New York City, NYPosts: 306Member

    Nowadays WoW =garbage.

    Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

     A once top game reduced to a pre-school kiddie theme park.

     

    How the mighty have fallen.

  • teakboisteakbois Parlin, NJPosts: 2,154Member

    Originally posted by erikk3189

     

    Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

     

    One key play is all the rage.  Rift has taken this concept to the extreme.  

  • Goll25Goll25 bath, PAPosts: 187Member

    ahhhhh, Warcraft has some of my favorite lore. Though I do have to say this seems rather anti-climatic. Wrath's story telling was amazing though.

  • DLangleyDLangley Beaumont, TXPosts: 1,407Member

    Stay on topic guys. Thanks.

  • itchmonitchmon west islip, NYPosts: 1,714Member Uncommon

    "wow is so lame and unimpressive, i am so glad that another company is putting a nearly identical game with a better skin out there, i can feel the immersion already"

     

    the above  ^ 100 = the mmo forum space these days

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  • KahPaoKahPao Albuquerque, NMPosts: 17Member

    Originally posted by erikk3189

    Nowadays WoW =garbage.

    Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

     A once top game reduced to a pre-school kiddie theme park.

     

    How the mighty have fallen.

    I so agree with you!   The new adverts with Chuck Norris are comical only because new players haven't a clue what makes it funny.   It was Blizz's cry out to all the older veteran players that quit.   I'll never go back.  Blizz experienced a true "cataclysm" of the kind they didn't intend!  lol

     

    Greatly looking forward to SW:ToR!

  • NetspookNetspook OsloPosts: 1,503Member Uncommon

    4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

    Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member

    Originally posted by Netspook

    4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

    Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

    Well, its the last "content" patch (i.e. dungeon/raid patch) the next 4.4 will be the setup for MoP like they do the last major patch before each expansion.  

  • HoplitesHoplites SpartaPosts: 463Member

    Originally posted by Netspook

    4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

    Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

    Will the major event be with 5.0, or will the major event patch come before 5.0?

    I don't consider major events a major patch, but some do becaue it contains content.  From m view a major patch is defined as having balance changes as well.  

    So the author can be accurate, but at the same time wrong.

    We don't know. But we will find out soon enough. image

  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Seattle, WAPosts: 1,067Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Nadia

    what I dont like about 4.3

     

    with Cata, all under level 60 outdoor heroic quests were changed to solo player

    with 4.3, the same was done for BC / LK content  -- there are no more heroic outdoor quests

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.3.0

     

    the only heroic quests under level 80 you will find in dungeons now

    WOW was never hard, but removing more challenge reduces the fun

    You have no imagination, you want quests to be challenging remove all ur gear, only wear green or grey gear, no enchants.

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  • xenogiasxenogias warsaw, INPosts: 1,926Member

    Even though I dont play WoW anymore I do like to watch there cinematics. That one however was awefull. So Now I dont play it anymore due to lack of fun factor and now the cinematics looks like something I could do. I might have to rethink getting D3 with the quality blizzard stuff has had as of late.

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