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Originally posted by DeViLzzz2007 Bioware is already ruining the game. They got rid of cc and interrupt combo for mobs in questing. I wanted a challenge from questing for once and hoped this game would give it but the player community cried cuz they want to rush through the game and get to raiding and the other part are just lamers and want no challenge at all.
This is patently false. Currently in beta as recently as last night. I get stunned, mezzed, knocked back, snared all the time by just about every mob in the game, that includes regular and champion and elite mobs. They've even gone so far as to increased the damage and hitpoints of all mobs in the game twice, in the last two builds. People are even starting to complain that the basic trash mobs are now irritatingly strong. Especially if you manage to get adds of more than the packs of 3 or 4 in which they normally run. Even healers are starting to feel the crunch, as I get interrupted constatly when trying to heal from 3 or 4 attackers, let alone any more adds or god forbid a champion gets thrown into the mix.
Originally posted by Vhaln Originally posted by Lord.Bachus I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.
I know this is going to sound crazy, because people are still assuming TOR will be a hit.. but I think in this case, it's the fans that are the vocal minority. I'm guessing that massive numbers of disappointed testers have just quietly moved on.
If I'm wrong, then I've become so out of touch, I should probably give up on trying to understand people entirely, and go live on a mountaintop somewhere.
Please show us proof that the detractors of the game outnumber the fans of the game, let alone by your massive numbers count. The pre-order numbers alone would prove you wrong, as would the constant polls that Bioware puts out in game and on the beta boards where the overwhelming numbers of players like the game immensely. This site is infamous for it's trolls, yet they are in fact, small in number. They merely make it a point to create new posts or visit fan posts to incessantly berate the game and it's followers. Otherwise, I have no clue where you get the idea that massive numbers of gamers have written off this game and moved on, even by the biased standards of this website.
Originally posted by tyrannis Originally posted by kanechart Originally posted by tank017 huh? I must have missed them saying that..
I second that!
No. They want what was promised - a "heroic" feeling game. Trash mobs should be like Stormtroopers or Battle Droids - EASY! Silver mobs a bit more challenging (Super Battle Droids) and Gold should make you 'think'. ELITE bosses should be a challenge.
What people like myself hate is when grinding becomes tedious! When getting from A to B involves killing 100 NPCs and then killing them again to get back!
If you want a challenge, go PvP.
Originally posted by Vhaln I know this is going to sound crazy, because people are still assuming TOR will be a hit.. but I think in this case, it's the fans that are the vocal minority. I'm guessing that massive numbers of disappointed testers have just quietly moved on. If I'm wrong, then I've become so out of touch, I should probably give up on trying to understand people entirely, and go live on a mountaintop somewhere.
Originally posted by TUX426 Originally posted by dougmysticey Originally posted by Robsolf There are probably other examples around, but 2 comments that come to mind were comments about: ...people watching the movies probably not dreaming of being Uncle Owen. ...and in response to being able to free-fly through space, they said something like: "Remember that part in the Star Wars movies where Han says to Chewie, 'Hey, let's blast off into space and just dick around!'. I don't remember that part, either." They were both in videos, but I don't recall which ones.
I recall the space comment. They are right to a degree. I do not mind the space combat. it is a distraction and mini game for XP when I want to change it up a little.
What's funny is when I first started playing it, it seemed "kinda" slow moving, but I assumed it was because I was a "novice". I got used to the slow speed as I played. I didn't realize how slow til' I'd played X-wing Alliance, then came back this spring to play for my free 45 days. Holy Jeeez!
I LOVED the various engine art and stuff they created for the upgrades, especially for the X-wing. One particular one I like where instead of 4 engines you had 2 big engines as vertical strips along the back.
The other thing is... your "freeflight" area got REALLY small once you went to faster ships, engines and boosters. I remember using hit and fade tactics to take baddies out one by one and out run them, then come back. I'd end up smacking the invisible wall all too often.
Anyhoo, back to modern day. ONE thing they could improve is to have Guild ships and missions, where you could have 4+ people on turrets in a ship, with one person piloting. Each person's reticle would have to track independent of ship movement(to avoid the problems with SWG MP ships), but I think it could be pretty fun.
Originally posted by kanechart What I have noticed overtime is that the people hate the game or dislike it love talking about it and disliking it. I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. I must give credit to bioware for doing a good job at pretty much telling these people off. Rather then ignore these people who complain or demand a full redone of the game they pretty much said go eff off this is how our game is made and this is how were doing it. Thanks Bioware for not ruining the game like Blizzard did for casual wannabe hardcore players.
The only reason Bioware would even tell us people off is because they no their game sucks and the mass amounts of people who dislike it hit them in the nuts and told them it sucks.
Originally posted by Vorthanion Originally posted by DeViLzzz2007 Bioware is already ruining the game. They got rid of cc and interrupt combo for mobs in questing. I wanted a challenge from questing for once and hoped this game would give it but the player community cried cuz they want to rush through the game and get to raiding and the other part are just lamers and want no challenge at all.
Same here... I was getting force choked some 2-4 times per Sith elite encounter. I had to redo a soldier class mission one level over because the FIRST boss mob was just pwning me with constant interrupts, knockbacks, and freezes. My armor completely broke twice, so I kept having to go repair and completely restart the mission.