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Originally posted by bumuscheekus Originally posted by Sovrath I think people need to learn how to manage their expectations. Some players approach these games with the zeal of an 8 year old kid and react in a similiar fashion when things don't go as they want.
Ye see man, that's the problem. We've all played games where we instantly felt they'd really moved the bar on and got it right. And age has nothing else to do with it, you can still be pleasently surprised at 95. I regard game design should have the same respect and standard as being a pretty damn fine art of versimilitude and when it's done well I think it's when developers have that kind of zeal too and give it that extra 10% it needs to make it truly special. When people say things like we shouldn't expect too much it allows them to fall short of what is possible and tolerate a lot less than could be delivered.
Honestly, it's been soo long and with no release date announced, I really don't care about this game anylonger. I'm pretty deep into WoW at this point and I'm not gonna leave for something I'm unsure about. I will try it eventually, but the wait, pre-lease ordering with no release date and just a general uncertainty about the mechanics will keep me from buying this on release.
In addition, I need to hear what Blizz will bring to the table with their new expansion. They will have to do something big to keep up, and I'm actually a excited to see what it will be. If it's some old stuff, new race, new area only, I will be trying TOR sooner then later.
For me it's not just TOR. Games get announced so early now. You start hearing about them years before release. It's hard to stay excited about ANY game for years in my opinion. And it's hard for any game to not be a disappointment after a await like that. By the time a game releases you have seen most of the game environments, monsters, attacks, etc.
Take Diablo 3 for example. As excited as I was a couple years ago, it's just hard for me to be very excited now. It looks great to me, but will it be worth the crazy wait?
I kinda wish they would just wait until 6 months or so from release before they even mention a game.
Having a date would be nice. But I can wait as long as it takes. A launch impression you only make once and they are planning to run it for at least a decade.
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I can see marketing people wanting to build potential subscriber interest. BUT...I think it is less than intelligent to expect to whip up subscriber enthusiasm soooooo far in advance of the potential subscriber being able to actually subscribe and play.For me....I'm tired of the tease.REALLY TIRED.
Companys like FUNCOM did this with AOC to an excrusciating degree...and I don't like it.I'm tired of the dance of 1000 veils...and waiting for the next veil to drop and reveal another micro piece of information.I have better things to do
I think everyone knows here that i don't like how they designed this game, but i really don't care, so even if i sound like a hater, which i'm not, i'll say once more. The game is just not interesting, thats why there is a fatigue. The story they can't really talk about it to not spoil, and the rest isn't very much worth some interest, so we are left with very little to enjoy. Even Rift got me more interested, and i think never a mmo got me so little interested. Maybe it will be so much better played as some claim who knows.
Originally posted by DarkPony Having a date would be nice. But I can wait as long as it takes. A launch impression you only make once and they are planning to run it for at least a decade.
All you had to do was ask Pony! Take me somewhere nice.... and not too expensive.
To me the marketing just makes me more cynical.
I have no patience for impatient gamers. You'll get the darn game when it's ready. Quit whining. I think it's partly due to a you why our games get released so early and unfinished, and then the games fail because they were released too early. Gotta feel good knowing your impatience kills games.
the more hype the higher the expectations, and usually the higher the expectations, the harder the disappointment.
let's just hope they can deliver.
Originally posted by Wharg0ul I've been watching people bitch on this site about titles being rushed out before they were ready for the last few years here, and here finally a company wants to take it's time and do things right and you're STILL bitching???? There's no pleasing you guys!!!
MMO gets rushed out the door: "ZOMG! Another rushed, failed game! The MMO genre is ruined!"
MMO has a slower development time: "ZOMG! I'm SO jaded and bored ever since [insert MMO here] did [insert whine here]. Where are all the good MMO's. All we have are rushed, failed games! The MMO genre is ruined!"
The only fatigue is from people who obsess over and nitpick every goddamn game that comes out and who get bogged down on these boards.
Yep battlefield 3 and skyrim are so close that even if starwars is released at about the same time I'll probably not play it until next year. I do think they should have set a release date and stuck to it. Basically its bad project management and I just hope their game coders/deisgners are better at their job that the management team.
I'm at this bizarre crossroads centered on one side by, "I'm tired of hearing all the hype, let's get on with it already!", and coming from another direction is, "I'd rather not see a solid release date until BioWare KNOWS that the game is going to be amazing."
While standing at these crossroads, I see on the horizon, 'word of mouth from my friends that have supposedly seen the beta are saying it's "F***ing amazing!" ', but residing along the dusky senset next to that is, "I have my Collector's Edition pre-ordered, this better not be another Final Fantasy XIV."
I don't want to see this title rushed, but at the same time, they could have held back on all of the built up hype. It IS grating on my nerves.
Originally posted by zaxxon23 I have no patience for impatient gamers. You'll get the darn game when it's ready. Quit whining. I think it's partly due to a you why our games get released so early and unfinished, and then the games fail because they were released too early. Gotta feel good knowing your impatience kills games. Hehe, my nephew once said he was prejudiced against prejudiced people.........I told him he needs a tatoo of a snake devouring its own tail.
Just a quick reminder that the NDA is still in effect. The only thing you can reveal is that you are in beta.
Any opinions on beta content, or even just telling people anything leading to such in a wink wink fashion is not permitted here.
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After the release of WoW's Cata I'm just drained.
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines
It will be ready when it's ready. Period. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a game to release so that it gets released polished, and keeps me interested enough over time to make the investment in the game worthwhile, than for me to have to sit through a crappy launch and quit the game after a week. Age of Conan and Vanguard taught me that.
Take as long as you need, BioWare. Just make sure it's a polished game when you release it.
Originally posted by Biggus99 It will be ready when it's ready. Period. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a game to release so that it gets released polished, and keeps me interested enough over time to make the investment in the game worthwhile, than for me to have to sit through a crappy launch and quit the game after a week. Age of Conan and Vanguard taught me that. Take as long as you need, BioWare. Just make sure it's a polished game when you release it.
That sure will make a big impression when it is 100% polished... in 2027!
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Originally posted by TheMaelstrom If the combat looked and felt more like Star Wars, I might still be hyped. It doesn't. And I'm not.
Storm troopers not missing enough for you?
Originally posted by Amana Just a quick reminder that the NDA is still in effect. The only thing you can reveal is that you are in beta. Any opinions on beta content, or even just telling people anything leading to such in a wink wink fashion is not permitted here.
Actually, that's not true. We are allowed to say weather we like the game or not.
I thought that was common knowledge at this point??
I think the beta shows us that the game will be a blast and the next big mmo to hit. Really, though, Bioware's next really big pre-launch move is to announce the game is gold master and going to retail. I think that news may come in October.
You know, it's funny in a way. We have SWTOR which is all hush hush, NDA and all that, very closed doors and people are frothing at the mouth over it.
In this other corner, I look at a game like ArcheAge which blows the door off any NDA, shows us every tittle about their game and everyone is like "sweet, can't wait to play it, take your time, make it awesome! whoohoo".
See the problem here?
I agree that it is even for me starting to get tiring, but I think all of this won't matter once release is upon us. It will be old forgotten news with the focus being on how well polished and smooth release goes. If that fails, it won't make a difference whether fatigue set in or not prior to launch.
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Originally posted by KanoRain Completely agree. I have a feeling by the time it's released in 2025 I'll have moved on.
That made clicking the link to this article all worth it
Originally posted by SBFord While it's only been about two years since Star Wars: The Old Republic was announced, in many ways it feels like two decades.
Maybe the reason it feels like decade to you is that you have no concept of time whatsoever!
It was officially announced in 2007 by EA & BW, nearly 5 years ago lol, where did you get 2 from?
Rumours had been around since 2005 as there was talk of SWG being taken from SOE &
given to BW to fix, but never happened & now we all know why
Quite poor for a mmorpg member of staff to write about the waiting for SW:tor to release &
then get the dates so so wrong...
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