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Does the lack of players make this game not worth playing?
RudyRaccoon
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Well I've never tried Vanguard but I keep hearing how poor this game has done, it seems to have very little to a non-existent population and it is poorly maintained by SOE. The game doesn't even have an expansion for a game that came out in 2007.
Isn't this rather concerning? It sounds like a game that's on the virge of death from the sounds of it, probably discouraging me from trying it really.
As the title says, is it even worth it?
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The lack of Devs is more concerning. Vanguard has zero full timeDevs .
I love Vanguard. It is a great game and everyone should play it at least once. But I hate what SOE has done to the game. They have refused to fund the game since they tookover in May, 2007. Speculation is they did not want it to compete with EQ2 and piss off their EQ2 investors.
Thery really should make the game F2P. Especialy with it getting almost no new content. But then again people might play it if it was F2P and realize what a great game it is and see how SOE has starved it to death.
Just imagine how good Vanguard could have been if another company had bought it other than SOE. So much wasted potential.
Not to me.
I take the game for what it is. I enjoy it for what it is and expect no more or less about it.
I do know they are going to be adding two updates this fiscal year so there is that.
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It is one of the reasons, not the only one.
with such a big world there is alot to from 1-55, and that's just as far as adventuring goes.
I think the fact that the game isn't very fun makes it not worth playing. That's just my opinion, please don't kill me. Honestly though, even if I did like the game, it's really hard to play a game that has had very few hours of development time put into it in four years. It's an MMO', these things require constant development, not a four year stagnation.
Anyways, there is a trial. It's kind of a pita to find, or at least it was me for when I tried it. Check the soe forums or google.
Trial...
here ya go:
http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
It's not the lack of players that make the game not worth playing... it's the lack of support.
I don't thing lack of support should stop ppl from trying this game. If you played all the content available right now you could get a good years worth of fun at least.
I did google vanguard trial, and I did get that website. I believe I was trying to find it right after the SOE outage a couple months back, that page was offline. Had to post on the SOE forums for a direct dl link
http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/
Not a single mention of a trial on the front page. It's like they'd rather not have people try their game.
the picture on the top cycles through and shows a 14 day trial, although i agree they should do something better.
Once they announced that they were continuing working on it. . and a patch actually came out the population seemed to grow. I had a great time. To anyone that says it is not fun I would suggest skipping the crafting and politics on the starter island until you have finished the adventure stuff. I thought it was dull the first time through as well but had a blast last time.
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Sometimes I think the web gurus for game companies forget a lot.
For instance, I decided to look into purchasing Isengard for LOTRO. Except going to their site i had to wade through a lot of nonsense and then give up and google it.
If I owned a company it would be a big shiny button.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
It's one of those things you have to see for yourself. A lot of people don't mind the low population as Vanguard has plenty of positives to make up for the negatives; however, Vanguard is filled with content that is meant to be experienced in a group. You may find that you're simply unable to see and do a lot of the things you want due to the fact that there aren't enough agreeable players around your level range to help you with your task.
Bring friends
Brings friends and the community is more than happy to help people returning or begining. when i'm not crafting or need a break from it. ill get on my lowbies to fill in spots for groups who need dps or tanks.
The population is actually starting to increase a bit. I played at launch and got discouraged quickly. I'd say it's worth giving a try at least. One of the best things you can do is start at the Isle of Dawn and join a guild. Twighlyte Song has a ton of members and has at LEAST 20+ members on at any time of the day, and 30+ during peak hours. So yeah give it a go.
Games played:
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Vanguard SoH (primarily), Aion(sometimes).
The low pop IS a problem because there is a lot of groupcontent. The main city is like a ghosttown. Besides im not prepared to pay a monthly fee without any support whatsoever.
If SOE really believed in this game they would have invested some money in support and developement
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People keep saying there is no support but MMORPG has an recent interview made buy close people to the game a month or two ago saying two updates are coming out. Vanguard even posted the same interview on their website. So they have support its not on the lines of EQ2 or WoW or even some other mainstream MMO's. Like i said before people the Community will help you with any answer you have for the game. Not only the Community but GM's are on ever day live in the chat channels talking with the players joking interacting with players making sure their experience is the best they can possible offer. From what it looks like most of these people that are talking about Vangaurd. havent logged on recently because there is always something to do for players or questions are being answered from any vet player/GM for returning players beginners.
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There are hundreds on the NA server, I've been doing instances with a full party this afternoon and I'm only in the teens.
Why would you possibly want a great game to be shut down which people are currently enjoying? Since I've started there has never been a moment where I have not found the help I needed, or where a guild member has not offered to help me on a group quest.
You say there's 40 people online, there was that many online in my guild last night.
Now that SOE gave the impression that Vanguard wont be shut down anytime soon, I would easily recommend this game to anyone. Its a good MMO. I wont play it anymore because I dont like to pick up where I left with subbased games after being gone for so long.
As for the amount of players. I dont mind myself that a server isnt full. To me that only matters if its important for the player economy or PVP. I rarely PUG anymore and mainly group with the same ppl I bring to every MMO.
Really depends how bad "lack of players" is.
I like a lot of niche games with limited audience sizes. 200k is plenty of subs to keep a game running forever, as long as they're not split across fifty feels-empty servers.
50k's probably more than sufficient to make one server feel active enough.
Start going much thinner than that, and you're going to run into some issues. There's Niche, and then there's Dead.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
*EDIT* Misread, you said 'subs'. Nearly lol'd myself to death.