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Overview of all things (structured) PvP

DiovidiusDiovidius Member UncommonPosts: 1,026
in Guild Wars 2

I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread with all currently known information of Structured PvP, seeing as there has been a huge amount of info and videos from Gamescom and there will be even more from Pax Prime. This will be updated as more information, videos and interviews are released.

Official Written articles

Overview of Structured PvP: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/pvp/pvp-overview/

Overview of the map The Battle of Khylo: http://www.arena.net/blog/the-battle-of-khylo-jonathan-sharp-on-pvp

Creation of the map The Battle of Khylo: http://www.arena.net/blog/making-the-battle-of-kyhlo



Dev quotes

Stéphane: In case people are concerned whether World vs. World is still in the game: yes, it is. We are focusing on other aspects of PvP game types with this set of information releases, which is why Jon's article doesn't discuss WvW.



Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.



Secondly, as I mentioned in another thread and on our social networks, the World vs. World format is still in the game. Again, for this set of information releases at gamescom/PAX, we're focusing on stuff we're ready to talk about in public. We'll have more about that in the future when we're ready to share more information about it.



Wiki

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Player_versus_Player

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Battle_of_Kyhlo



Gameplay videos

Devs vs Boon Control Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqmmKgRaZrY&feature=youtu.be

Devs vs Boon Control Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXc1JwHGNik

Total Biscuit PvP intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvHV7HB2BDc

Short look at the pvp lobby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SOKqmeE-8c&feature=player_detailpage#t=99s



Written interviews

Guild Wars2PvP interview 1: http://guildwars2pvp.com/forum/showthread.php?91-The-Gamescom-2011-PvP-Thread&p=858&viewfull=1#post858

Guild Wars2PvP interview 2: http://www.guildwars2pvp.com/forum/showthread.php?91-The-Gamescom-2011-PvP-Thread&p=921&viewfull=1#post921

Tentonhammer: http://www.tentonhammer.com/gw2/gamescom/2011/pvp-interview-with-eric-flannum



Interview videos

Official (Jon Peters and Isaiah Cartwright): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vbWqxVg_ow&feature=feedu

Guildmag (Jon Peters): http://www.guildmag.com/pvp-interview-with-jon-peters

Guildmag (Tirzah Bauer, about map design): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDsfkoHRO6c

50 minutes long interview with Isaiah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jff4Wk5wZfE



Hands-on articles

Guildwars2journal: http://www.guildwars2journal.com/page/index.html/_/news/guild-wars-2-hands-on-with-the-pvp-demo-r66

Talktyria: http://www.talktyria.net/2011/08/19/gamescom-2011-%E2%80%93-day-2/

Comments

  • KalferKalfer Member Posts: 779

    I like Jon Peters. That dude has a good grasp on what is going on. He is always very serious though, haha!

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by Diovidius





    Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.

    In this interview : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS74nfyKu3o&feature=player_embedded

    Jon Peters clearly states that they are currently only developing Conquest map types for structured PvP, because this game type fits the game best, if they want to make GW2 an E-sport all structured PvP needs to be the same type... So people don't need to learn other gametypes when they switch maps.

    So Regina must be pointing at RvRvR, as all structured PvP for now will be conquest based.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • DiovidiusDiovidius Member UncommonPosts: 1,026

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Diovidius





    Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.

    In this interview : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS74nfyKu3o&feature=player_embedded

    Jon Peters clearly states that they are currently only developing Conquest map types for structured PvP, because this game type fits the game best, if they want to make GW2 an E-sport all structured PvP needs to be the same type... So people don't need to learn other gametypes when they switch maps.

    So Regina must be pointing at RvRvR, as all structured PvP for now will be conquest based.

    No, she's specifically pointing at Structured PvP. Look at the entire quote:

    Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.



    Secondly, as I mentioned in another thread and on our social networks, the World vs. World format is still in the game. Again, for this set of information releases at gamescom/PAX, we're focusing on stuff we're ready to talk about in public. We'll have more about that in the future when we're ready to share more information about it.

    The first part is about Structured PvP, the second part is about WvWvW. Over at guildwars2guru, we also did not understand it so I guess we have to wait for clarification.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by Diovidius

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Diovidius





    Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.

    In this interview : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS74nfyKu3o&feature=player_embedded

    Jon Peters clearly states that they are currently only developing Conquest map types for structured PvP, because this game type fits the game best, if they want to make GW2 an E-sport all structured PvP needs to be the same type... So people don't need to learn other gametypes when they switch maps.

    So Regina must be pointing at RvRvR, as all structured PvP for now will be conquest based.

    No, she's specifically pointing at Structured PvP. Look at the entire quote:

    Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.



    Secondly, as I mentioned in another thread and on our social networks, the World vs. World format is still in the game. Again, for this set of information releases at gamescom/PAX, we're focusing on stuff we're ready to talk about in public. We'll have more about that in the future when we're ready to share more information about it.

    The first part is about Structured PvP, the second part is about WvWvW. Over at guildwars2guru, we also did not understand it so I guess we have to wait for clarification.

    Well, one of them is wrong.... beacuse they both are telling something different...

    And Jon Peters sounded really convincing to me. I think the only way we're going to see different tyoes of maps is if the closed beta testers specifically ask for them.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • DiovidiusDiovidius Member UncommonPosts: 1,026

    Added this guildmag interview with Tirzah Bauer about map design: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDsfkoHRO6c

    Also added a short look at the pvp lobby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SOKqmeE-8c&feature=player_detailpage#t=99s

  • MumboJumboMumboJumbo Member UncommonPosts: 3,219

    ADDED THESE to "Everything We Know About GW2" Thread. Most covered above^ already!!

    Totalbiscuit walkthrough is a good addition I think?

    ...

    1. Official Website PvP page: Official summary [INFO]

    http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/pvp/pvp-overview/

    2. ArenaNet Blog: The Battle of Kyhlo – Jonathan Sharp on PvP [INFO]

    http://www.arena.net/blog/the-battle-of-khylo-jonathan-sharp-on-pvp

    3. GW2guru KQ's PvP page: summary + sources/reference links to details confirmed by ArenaNet [INFO]

    http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/gw2-pvp-systems-information-summary-t19633.html

    4. PvP Interview with Jon Peters by GuildMag: Thoughtful discussion on PvP challenges in designing (video)

    http://www.guildmag.com/pvp-interview-with-jon-peters

    5. Guild Wars 2 PvP Interview with Eric Flannum: As above with Eric Flannum ArenaNet's game philosophy (talk)

    http://www.tentonhammer.com/gw2/gamescom/2011/pvp-interview-with-eric-flannum

    6. Guild Wars 2 - Lets Talk PvP: NCSoftWest panel with Issiah Cartwright & Jonathan Sharp: (talk)

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ncsoftwest#p/a/u/0/6vbWqxVg_ow

    7. Tirzah Bauer "PvP maps" Guild Wars 2 interview - GamesCom 2011 (talk)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDsfkoHRO6c

    8. Guild Wars 2 - GamesCom 2011 PVP & Q&A Part 1, 2: Video Live Demo with Issiah Cartwright (walkthrough)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6IvAYADLg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zjYukUa40

    9. Guild Wars 2 Demo: PvP primer (PC): Gamespot with Eric Flannum (talkthrough)

    http://gamescom.gamespot.com/video/6330320/guild-wars-2-demo-pvp-primer

    10. Gamescom Coverage : Hyper WTF is Guild Wars 2 PvP? : Totalbiscuit + Issiah Cartwright (walkthrough)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvHV7HB2BDc

    http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Diovidius

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Diovidius





    Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.

    In this interview : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS74nfyKu3o&feature=player_embedded

    Jon Peters clearly states that they are currently only developing Conquest map types for structured PvP, because this game type fits the game best, if they want to make GW2 an E-sport all structured PvP needs to be the same type... So people don't need to learn other gametypes when they switch maps.

    So Regina must be pointing at RvRvR, as all structured PvP for now will be conquest based.

    No, she's specifically pointing at Structured PvP. Look at the entire quote:

    Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.



    Secondly, as I mentioned in another thread and on our social networks, the World vs. World format is still in the game. Again, for this set of information releases at gamescom/PAX, we're focusing on stuff we're ready to talk about in public. We'll have more about that in the future when we're ready to share more information about it.

    The first part is about Structured PvP, the second part is about WvWvW. Over at guildwars2guru, we also did not understand it so I guess we have to wait for clarification.

    Well, one of them is wrong.... beacuse they both are telling something different...

    And Jon Peters sounded really convincing to me. I think the only way we're going to see different tyoes of maps is if the closed beta testers specifically ask for them.

     Well in the interview with Izzy (from tentonhammer) he basically backs up what Regina said. So it looks like Jon Peters was misquoted or made a mistake or whatever. In any case there will be more pvp game types than conquest.

    One departure from the first game, no more GvG.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    Well, one of them is wrong.... beacuse they both are telling something different...

    And Jon Peters sounded really convincing to me. I think the only way we're going to see different tyoes of maps is if the closed beta testers specifically ask for them.

    No Bachus, you just interpreted what he said wrong. Jon never said there wouldn't be other stuff apart from Conquest maps, he just said the reason they are showing the Conquest mode is because its the one mode they've taken the furthest and fleshed out the most. In that vid, actually even right at the beginning he clearly states that "Yes there will be other objectives but we don't know what they will be yet because we haven't finished working on them".

    This is not a game.

  • MalevilMalevil Member Posts: 468

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    Well, one of them is wrong.... beacuse they both are telling something different...

    And Jon Peters sounded really convincing to me. I think the only way we're going to see different tyoes of maps is if the closed beta testers specifically ask for them.

    No Bachus, you just interpreted what he said wrong. Jon never said there wouldn't be other stuff apart from Conquest maps, he just said the reason they are showing the Conquest mode is because its the one mode they've taken the furthest and fleshed out the most. In that vid, actually even right at the beginning he clearly states that "Yes there will be other objectives but we don't know what they will be yet because we haven't finished working on them".

    Ofc they didnt said that there will never be other than coquest maps - but they said thats what will their structured PvP look like at release and not only Peters said that but Izzy too :

    check 6:40 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zjYukUa40

    'Competitve PvP will be conquest based system ' .

  • samblade19samblade19 Member Posts: 2

    "Regina: Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type."

    End of story conquest is "one" of the game types to come. Meaning there is other game types that may possibly be more like GvG or game types on a larger scale then 5v5 that can more closely resemble a GvG battle. Jon Peters said they didnt see GvG as all that successful becuase it didnt appeal to the large population of people that are not in guild or in large guilds, he did not say there will be no GvG type of gameplay. If there will be no guild battles they will loose a good portion of faithful community as you can see there is many people worried that there will be no GvG and I'm sure ArenaNet sees this because they Invited a guild Boon Control to showcase the pvp. Im Sure Boon Control enjoyed the game but Guild aspect is what brings PVP guilds to games without it guild minded people might not feel WvW as rewarding as a structured GvG pvp.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by Malevil

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    Well, one of them is wrong.... beacuse they both are telling something different...

    And Jon Peters sounded really convincing to me. I think the only way we're going to see different tyoes of maps is if the closed beta testers specifically ask for them.

    No Bachus, you just interpreted what he said wrong. Jon never said there wouldn't be other stuff apart from Conquest maps, he just said the reason they are showing the Conquest mode is because its the one mode they've taken the furthest and fleshed out the most. In that vid, actually even right at the beginning he clearly states that "Yes there will be other objectives but we don't know what they will be yet because we haven't finished working on them".

    Ofc they didnt said that there will never be other than coquest maps - but they said thats what will their structured PvP look like at release and not only Peters said that but Izzy too :

    check 6:40 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zjYukUa40

    'Competitve PvP will be conquest based system ' .

    Nope, he didn't say anything about release, he said Conquest is what they are currently focusing on.

    This is not a game.

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