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General: Should We Add Diablo 3?

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  • thinktank001thinktank001 oasisPosts: 2,027Member Uncommon

    If it has a lobby area where everyone logs into, then I don't see a problem.  However, if it doesn't then there isn't even any need for discussion.

     

    Isn't this thread pointless, since we already know you decided to add it to the list?

  • P2PGamerP2PGamer Trolls, AKPosts: 121Member

    LOL   Yes, it's funny they wait until they show a commanding lead with the YES vote before they start showing the results.  This entire thread and poll should just be deleted as the staff at MMORPG.com already knew their decision.  It's turning ugly now with the "games" being played.

    Power to the Sheeple

  • GishgeronGishgeron Princeton, KYPosts: 1,287Member

    Originally posted by P2PGamer

    LOL   Yes, it's funny they wait until they show a commanding lead with the YES vote before they start showing the results.  This entire thread and poll should just be deleted as the staff at MMORPG.com already knew their decision.  It's turning ugly now with the "games" being played.

     

     Your tone suggests that you think the vote was ever "No" to begin with.  They didn't really play any games with you, they posted an innocent poll.  They were probably trying to decide what the best direction for this site was, given the direction the MMO market has gone in.  Yes, they have had games like that for a long time.  They were very few in number.  With such a large IP in the mix...it means that many many more will follow.  It was time for a rea discussion on the matter.  Before now, there was NO discussion on the matter, at least not meaningful ones that affected anything.

      If I had to guess, this poll was going to shape some of the direction they take now.  They may have been conisdering what to do next...honestly the genre will be completely dead soon if they don't adapt their definition of it.  Traditional MMO's are quickly becoming a thing of the past.  While this site IS dedicated to, in part, that legacy...its also a business.  People rely on this site to be here to pay their bills.  Beyond that, others are using this site as a platform to launch their dreams and efforts into reality.  If the site fails because the trends changed and it did not, then all of those people will have nothing.

      Stop being such a child and wake up to the reality of the world around you.

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  • swyftty2swyftty2 Orlando, FLPosts: 23Member

    diablo 3 =

      mmo ( massive multi online   - tons of people all online  at one time  check )

    rpg(  playing a role as a specific character in a story line   check )

     

    true its not eveyone in same area but....  that's the deffinition not just  WoW

  • shane242shane242 birminghamPosts: 90Member Uncommon

    Add it, the ammount content will be good for mmorpg.com.

     

    A lot of mmorpg players will no dout be playing D3, Most of the guys who have played WoW will also

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  • HedeonHedeon GraestedPosts: 954Member Uncommon

    btw while you are at it dont forget path of exile

  • jayartejayarte LancasterPosts: 450Member

    Originally posted by nate1980

    I voted NO.

    I was just browsing the list of upcoming games for a new MMORPG to play, and clicked on a game that ended up being a MMORTS. I don't frequent this site to read up on MMORTS or games that can be played online, but aren't MMO's. I frequent this site to learn strictly about current and upcoming MMORPG's.

    The more non-MMORPG's you add to the list, the more information a person like me has to wade through.

    As Bill points out, though,

    "We know what the “real” MMORPGs are, and by that extension we’re likely going to be changing some things on our Game List in the near future to reflect specific off-shoots (MOBA, Action-MMO, MMORTS, etc.)  This way you can sort the List as you see fit and get to the games you care about even faster."

     

    So, hopefully, you won't have to wade through information which isn't relevant to you.

     

    p.s.  I voted "yes"; I would like coverage of Diablo 3 here, as well as other games which may not fit strictly into the criteria a purist would demand for mmorpg.  I might argue pedantically about the definition of something which really mattered to me, but we are, after all, just talking about games.  Right?

  • c4_Garudac4_Garuda BelgradePosts: 77Member

    Diablo, just as a name is so huge it would be stupid not to add it. I don't care whats the cost, DO IT. Anoter reason for me to be here.

    "To be a rock and not to roll..."

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Kansas City, MOPosts: 4,844Member

    Originally posted by swyftty2

    diablo 3 =

      mmo ( massive multi online   - tons of people all online  at one time  check )

    rpg(  playing a role as a specific character in a story line   check )

     

    true its not eveyone in same area but....  that's the deffinition not just  WoW

     

    People aren't going by just the definition of WoW, but by the hundreds of OTHER real MMORPGs.  You act as if WoW is the only real MMORPG. lol

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  • Originally posted by P2PGamer

    Originally posted by Z3R01

    Sure right after you add borderlands to the list.

     

    This.

    D3 is NOT an MMORPG.  Just like BF3 isn't an MMORPG.  WoT is not an MMORPG.  What they are is Pay to Win RPGs that are getting fancier and fancier chat rooms.  Yes, they are multi-player, but they are not massive at all.  This is the problem when you start adding games like Fury and Hellgate:London  and World of Tanks to the list.  It makes it harder and harder for people new to the genre to determine what is an MMORPG and what isn't.

    What the staff at MMORPG.com needs to decide is if this website is going to continue to be MMORPG.com or change to MORPG.com thus dropping massively.    

    It seems to me the ONLY reason  you would want to add D3 to your lineup is for the hits that you know D3 will bring you, thus driving ad revenue.  That's the bottom line and that is what this is all really about.  Everyone knows this D3 will be the game of year when it's released.  The question is, are you going to stay true to your roots at mmorpg.com or are you going to follow the ad revenue that D3 hits would bring.


     

     QFT

  • MMO.MaverickMMO.Maverick WonderlandPosts: 7,619Member

    In my opinion, it shouldn't be added since it's not an MMORPG, not really (actually, not at all). In fact, I'd advocate a couple more to be removed that have slipped unjustly through control, like LoL and Second Life.

     

    From a commercial/business sense of view I'd say, add it as well as any other sort-of RPG with a multiplayer component, since it's bound to attract more people if you add games like that to the site. Higher hit count, more ad revenues and options, etc.

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  • ValentinaValentina Los Angeles, CAPosts: 1,675Member Uncommon

    NO, it's not an MMORPG.


  • Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by P2PGamer

    LOL   Yes, it's funny they wait until they show a commanding lead with the YES vote before they start showing the results.  This entire thread and poll should just be deleted as the staff at MMORPG.com already knew their decision.  It's turning ugly now with the "games" being played.

     

     Your tone suggests that you think the vote was ever "No" to begin with.  They didn't really play any games with you, they posted an innocent poll.  They were probably trying to decide what the best direction for this site was, given the direction the MMO market has gone in.  Yes, they have had games like that for a long time.  They were very few in number.  With such a large IP in the mix...it means that many many more will follow.  It was time for a rea discussion on the matter.  Before now, there was NO discussion on the matter, at least not meaningful ones that affected anything.

      If I had to guess, this poll was going to shape some of the direction they take now.  They may have been conisdering what to do next...honestly the genre will be completely dead soon if they don't adapt their definition of it.  Traditional MMO's are quickly becoming a thing of the past.  While this site IS dedicated to, in part, that legacy...its also a business.  People rely on this site to be here to pay their bills.  Beyond that, others are using this site as a platform to launch their dreams and efforts into reality.  If the site fails because the trends changed and it did not, then all of those people will have nothing.

      Stop being such a child and wake up to the reality of the world around you.


     

    It's rather sad you have to resort to petty insults. Stop being such a child? Really? Since everything you said was nothing more than your opinion, here's mine. It seems to me that you're the one mostly displaying how naive you are in this debate.

  • altairraltairr SenecPosts: 81Member

    I think you can surely add Diablo III to the list.

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  • metatronicmetatronic ssm, ONPosts: 329Member

    Are you going to add Torchlight 2 then? And every other action rpg that comes out? If not.. don't add diablo 3 just beceause you think it will bring people in here.. But you will add it anyways out of greed...

    we don't come here to read about action rpgs or free to play mmo either... I come here to read about and discuss triple A western MMO's. All this other shit is just in the way..

  • P2PGamerP2PGamer Trolls, AKPosts: 121Member

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by P2PGamer

    LOL   Yes, it's funny they wait until they show a commanding lead with the YES vote before they start showing the results.  This entire thread and poll should just be deleted as the staff at MMORPG.com already knew their decision.  It's turning ugly now with the "games" being played.

     

     Your tone suggests that you think the vote was ever "No" to begin with.  They didn't really play any games with you, they posted an innocent poll.  They were probably trying to decide what the best direction for this site was, given the direction the MMO market has gone in.  Yes, they have had games like that for a long time.  They were very few in number.  With such a large IP in the mix...it means that many many more will follow.  It was time for a rea discussion on the matter.  Before now, there was NO discussion on the matter, at least not meaningful ones that affected anything.

      If I had to guess, this poll was going to shape some of the direction they take now.  They may have been conisdering what to do next...honestly the genre will be completely dead soon if they don't adapt their definition of it.  Traditional MMO's are quickly becoming a thing of the past.  While this site IS dedicated to, in part, that legacy...its also a business.  People rely on this site to be here to pay their bills.  Beyond that, others are using this site as a platform to launch their dreams and efforts into reality.  If the site fails because the trends changed and it did not, then all of those people will have nothing.

      Stop being such a child and wake up to the reality of the world around you.

     

    Your post would have merit but two facts blow your thinking out of the water.  One, they waited until a 60/40 yes/no split before allow us to view the results of the poll.  Two, they already admitted the decision was already made to add D3.  Since the decision was already made, there was no point to the poll.  To me, if MMOPRG.com would just admit that D3 is too big of an IP and game to ignore and they were adding it to take advantage of the added revenue, I'm cool with that.  Pretending like there was a debate with the community about the decision is childish.  FYI, no I am not bashing the staff of MMORPG.com over any of this, the real kicker here is people defending this like it was a real discussion and the community had a voice in the decision even after the staff said we did not.

    Power to the Sheeple

  • BenedictXVBenedictXV Montreal, QCPosts: 104Member

    Originally posted by P2PGamer



    Originally posted by Gishgeron


    Originally posted by P2PGamer

    LOL   Yes, it's funny they wait until they show a commanding lead with the YES vote before they start showing the results.  This entire thread and poll should just be deleted as the staff at MMORPG.com already knew their decision.  It's turning ugly now with the "games" being played.

     

     Your tone suggests that you think the vote was ever "No" to begin with.  They didn't really play any games with you, they posted an innocent poll.  They were probably trying to decide what the best direction for this site was, given the direction the MMO market has gone in.  Yes, they have had games like that for a long time.  They were very few in number.  With such a large IP in the mix...it means that many many more will follow.  It was time for a rea discussion on the matter.  Before now, there was NO discussion on the matter, at least not meaningful ones that affected anything.

      If I had to guess, this poll was going to shape some of the direction they take now.  They may have been conisdering what to do next...honestly the genre will be completely dead soon if they don't adapt their definition of it.  Traditional MMO's are quickly becoming a thing of the past.  While this site IS dedicated to, in part, that legacy...its also a business.  People rely on this site to be here to pay their bills.  Beyond that, others are using this site as a platform to launch their dreams and efforts into reality.  If the site fails because the trends changed and it did not, then all of those people will have nothing.

      Stop being such a child and wake up to the reality of the world around you.

     

    Your post would have merit but two facts blow your thinking out of the water.  One, they waited until a 60/40 yes/no split before allow us to view the results of the poll.  Two, they already admitted the decision was already made to add D3.  Since the decision was already made, there was no point to the poll.  To me, if MMOPRG.com would just admit that D3 is too big of an IP and game to ignore and they were adding it to take advantage of the added revenue, I'm cool with that.  Pretending like there was a debate with the community about the decision is childish.  FYI, no I am not bashing the staff of MMORPG.com over any of this, the real kicker here is people defending this like it was a real discussion and the community had a voice in the decision even after the staff said we did not.


     

    I looked at this poll this morning before going to school, they showed the results as being 50% something yes and 49 something % nays... Your argument just dont hold the line

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  • P2PGamerP2PGamer Trolls, AKPosts: 121Member

    Originally posted by BenedictXV



    Originally posted by P2PGamer

     

    Your post would have merit but two facts blow your thinking out of the water.  One, they waited until a 60/40 yes/no split before allow us to view the results of the poll.  Two, they already admitted the decision was already made to add D3.  Since the decision was already made, there was no point to the poll.  To me, if MMOPRG.com would just admit that D3 is too big of an IP and game to ignore and they were adding it to take advantage of the added revenue, I'm cool with that.  Pretending like there was a debate with the community about the decision is childish.  FYI, no I am not bashing the staff of MMORPG.com over any of this, the real kicker here is people defending this like it was a real discussion and the community had a voice in the decision even after the staff said we did not.






     

    I looked at this poll this morning before going to school, they showed the results as being 50% something yes and 49 something % nays... Your argument just dont hold the line

     

    Don't know what poll you are looking at as this one right now is a 61 yes 39 no spread.

     

    Power to the Sheeple

  • BenedictXVBenedictXV Montreal, QCPosts: 104Member

    Originally posted by P2PGamer



    Originally posted by BenedictXV




    Originally posted by P2PGamer

     



    Your post would have merit but two facts blow your thinking out of the water.  One, they waited until a 60/40 yes/no split before allow us to view the results of the poll.  Two, they already admitted the decision was already made to add D3.  Since the decision was already made, there was no point to the poll.  To me, if MMOPRG.com would just admit that D3 is too big of an IP and game to ignore and they were adding it to take advantage of the added revenue, I'm cool with that.  Pretending like there was a debate with the community about the decision is childish.  FYI, no I am not bashing the staff of MMORPG.com over any of this, the real kicker here is people defending this like it was a real discussion and the community had a voice in the decision even after the staff said we did not.






     



    I looked at this poll this morning before going to school, they showed the results as being 50% something yes and 49 something % nays... Your argument just dont hold the line

     

    Don't know what poll you are looking at as this one right now is a 61 yes 39 no spread.

     


     

    I took the pool this morning at 7am eastern time and it showed the result i mentionned up there.

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  • black777black777 chicoutimi, QCPosts: 100Member

    No.



    Because it isn't an mmo.

     

    End of story

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  • koagzkoagz Biddeford, MEPosts: 13Member

    It's online, it's an rpg (ORPG)

    I don't see why it wouldn't be added?

    Plus it's Diablo?

  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias tampa, FLPosts: 12Member

    role-playing game (RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making or character development.[1] Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.[2]

  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,367MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

    Originally posted by P2PGamer



    Originally posted by BenedictXV




    Originally posted by P2PGamer

     



    Your post would have merit but two facts blow your thinking out of the water.  One, they waited until a 60/40 yes/no split before allow us to view the results of the poll.  Two, they already admitted the decision was already made to add D3.  Since the decision was already made, there was no point to the poll.  To me, if MMOPRG.com would just admit that D3 is too big of an IP and game to ignore and they were adding it to take advantage of the added revenue, I'm cool with that.  Pretending like there was a debate with the community about the decision is childish.  FYI, no I am not bashing the staff of MMORPG.com over any of this, the real kicker here is people defending this like it was a real discussion and the community had a voice in the decision even after the staff said we did not.






     



    I looked at this poll this morning before going to school, they showed the results as being 50% something yes and 49 something % nays... Your argument just dont hold the line

     

    Don't know what poll you are looking at as this one right now is a 61 yes 39 no spread.

     


     

    We didn't admit we're adding it... I don't know where you got that from.  In fact in today's separate article I wrote that we'll only add it if the results are significantly in favor of it, and even at 60% "Yes" I'm hesitant to add it.

    If anything right now it's looking like we may add a forum for it, and preview/review it as an "outside the box" type thing but that's it.  That's where the common thinking among the staff and ownership lies right now.

    If the poll takes a dramatic turn and goes HUGELY in favor of it?  Then we'll reevaluate the thing.  But right now, it seems even our community can't decide.

  • SuraknarSuraknar Montreal, QCPosts: 824Member

    Originally posted by Laughing-man



    Diablo 3 has ONLY online content, so everyone who is comparing it to ANY console game or FPS or single player game that happens to have online content, think about that for a second.



    ONLY online play



    Where do you guys get the idea that Diablo isn't an RPG?  You can call a duck a dog but that doesn't make it a dog...   It is MOST CERTIANLY an RPG.



    an MMO?   YES



    Is it being played online by a massive number of players?  YES



    Is it a persistant world?  NO



    Is a presistant world a prerequisite for being an MMO?  NO



     



    Its an MMORPG.


     

    What is this? Was WoW your first MMORPG, or no, don't tel me, you came from Diablo 2 right?

    Well I have news for you :

    "Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world.

    As in all RPGs, players assume the role of a character (often in a fantasy world) and take control over many of that character's actions. MMORPGs are distinguished from single-player or small multi-player RPGs by the number of players, and by the game's persistent world (usually hosted by the game's publisher), which continues to exist and evolve while the player is offline and away from the game."

    Just look it up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game

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  • DelCabonDelCabon Las Vegas, NVPosts: 234Member Uncommon

    Given that Diablo3 supports a multi-player environment, with a high-fantasy RPG element I personally feel like it should be added and would look forward to reading related news.

    I enjoy visiting this website for stories, posts and feedback on all MMO related games. For the most part I think Diablo 3 offers a lot of cross-over appeal to those of us who play in more persistent worlds.

    Those people who are not inclined to consider Diablo 3 relevant can always choose not to move their mouse or clicky finger.

    Del Cabon
    A US Army Vet (5/21 "Just Cause") and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing ESO.  Following Pantheon & Chronicles of Elyria.


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