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Wow is dying aparently

JupstoJupsto englandPosts: 2,087Member

http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/23666-wow-is-dying-out

Its naive to think it will actually die, but its nice theres less people playing imo because blizzard are douchebags and its such an overated game.

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  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

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  • HaegemonHaegemon Anaheim, CAPosts: 266Member

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

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  • marinridermarinrider Tomball, TXPosts: 1,556Member

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

    To expect the rate of loss to stay constant is naive.  The article states that WoW has lost 1 million users in 9 months.  (approx).  At the current rate if it says in a sort of x=-y line, and assuming WoW has around 12mill subs and Aion has about 4mil (including Asia, where its popular) it will only take WoW 6 years to be down to Aions 4mil.  But this math isnt realistic because the rate of loss will speed up as new games come out and as WoW becomes even more bland.  So say its 1 mill for this 9 months, but in 18 months they could be losing 1.5 mil per 9 months, or even 2mil.

    The whole thing is speculation but I think that WoW has past its golden age and is now on a slow decline.

     

    Disclaimer: Do NOT take any of my numbers as fact.  Its pure guesswork to prove a point (using commonly tossed around numbers).

  • odinsrathodinsrath louisville, KYPosts: 814Member Uncommon

    this is a bad win and win more for wow in the long run..bad that they are loseing subs atm ..but if they decide to go f2p it would be a huge win for them and bring in even more subs and twice as many cash shops..i can see it now lol looking thru a catalog full of stuff like it was a walmart web-site..i hate wow but irl they will always be around no matter how easy-mode their game is..kids love it and even more if it was free lol

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  • UnshraUnshra Hanover, MDPosts: 382Member

    Originally posted by marinrider

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

    To expect the rate of loss to stay constant is naive.  The article states that WoW has lost 1 million users in 9 months.  (approx).  At the current rate if it says in a sort of x=-y line, and assuming WoW has around 12mill subs and Aion has about 4mil (including Asia, where its popular) it will only take WoW 6 years to be down to Aions 4mil.  But this math isnt realistic because the rate of loss will speed up as new games come out and as WoW becomes even more bland.  So say its 1 mill for this 9 months, but in 18 months they could be losing 1.5 mil per 9 months, or even 2mil.

    The whole thing is speculation but I think that WoW has past its golden age and is now on a slow decline.

     

    Disclaimer: Do NOT take any of my numbers as fact.  Its pure guesswork to prove a point (using commonly tossed around numbers).

     So what point where you trying to prove, considering Robo's comment was tongue in cheek.

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  • DibdabsDibdabs FelvershamPosts: 2,604Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

    Pretty much says it all.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

    Not sure about you but I intend to live forever. :P

     

    /serious talk

    I think the bigger story is, where are these ex-WoW players going?

    For the vast majority of players, WoW was their first (and probably only) MMO. But these millions of players (only 30% get above level 10) sort of disappear and do not pick up another MMO.

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  • tinuelletinuelle bergenPosts: 287Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by jpnz

    /serious talk

    I think the bigger story is, where are these ex-WoW players going?

    For the vast majority of players, WoW was their first (and probably only) MMO. But these millions of players (only 30% get above level 10) sort of disappear and do not pick up another MMO.

    Most realize that there other things to do in life than chasing pixels in a screen.......... and quit.

    Others, like me, are chasing the pixel ride hoping for the right pixel combination to appear that will make the old world which once was the beginning come alive again somehow............

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  • ChimpsChimps KPosts: 192Member

    Originally posted by Haegemon

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

    Looking at the games amazing changes over the years it seems Aion will outlive WoW.

    Aions developers has a plan set out for the game and that plan is beyond incredible.

    The only problem Aion has right now is it requires good computers to run it. Many people can't afford those good computers. If we all could afford those computers then Aion would have a much bigger playerbase.

  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,290Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Chimps

    Originally posted by Haegemon


    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

    Looking at the games amazing changes over the years it seems Aion will outlive WoW.

    Aions developers has a plan set out for the game and that plan is beyond incredible.

    The only problem Aion has right now is it requires good computers to run it. Many people can't afford those good computers. If we all could afford those computers then Aion would have a much bigger playerbase.

    unlikely, Aion's problems arent really the hardware requirements, but actual gameplay issues, imo, its not really a game thats designed for 'western' players, the excessive grind and the pvp options don't really do it any favours..  image

  • Fir3lineFir3line LisbonPosts: 767Member

    I reckon this player base leaving is mainly the PvP community such as myself tbh, many ppl feel like they've been shat uppon from blizzard.

    The current state of PvP in that game is a complete joke, has been for years. but damn is worst than it ever was.

    7 Month seasons, ladder exploits, classes that basically rape anything in less than 10 secconds while poping every immunity cooldown they have. Its beyond retarded

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  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,290Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    I reckon this player base leaving is mainly the PvP community such as myself tbh, many ppl feel like they've been shat uppon from blizzard.

    The current state of PvP in that game is a complete joke, has been for years. but damn is worst than it ever was.

    7 Month seasons, ladder exploits, classes that basically rape anything in less than 10 secconds while poping every immunity cooldown they have. Its beyond retarded

    Frankly, i've no idea why anyone would play WoW for the PVP.. its always been, imo at least.. completely pants... even Darkfall handles PVP better than WoW... though i've yet to see any fantasy game handle PvP competently.image

  • Fir3lineFir3line LisbonPosts: 767Member

    Originally posted by Phry

    Originally posted by Fir3line

    I reckon this player base leaving is mainly the PvP community such as myself tbh, many ppl feel like they've been shat uppon from blizzard.

    The current state of PvP in that game is a complete joke, has been for years. but damn is worst than it ever was.

    7 Month seasons, ladder exploits, classes that basically rape anything in less than 10 secconds while poping every immunity cooldown they have. Its beyond retarded

    Frankly, i've no idea why anyone would play WoW for the PVP.. its always been, imo at least.. completely pants... even Darkfall handles PVP better than WoW... though i've yet to see any fantasy game handle PvP competently.image

    Combat is responsive and mostly polished, and there is way more ppl that dont enjoy darkfall type of pvp,(which I think its complete crap, but lets not get into that).

    They have competing ladders which many ppl enjoy, but me, and many more are overly exhausted with the current state they brought the game to.

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  • NovusodNovusod Lakewood, NJPosts: 892Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

    Popular trends usually tend to be logarithmic rather than linear. How many people still use American Online or the Netscape Navigator? Or more recently how many people abandoned Myspace in favor of Facebook? It really wasn't that long ago these popular brands were kings and then after a few short years of decline they were Irrelevant. WoW days are numbered if it can't reverse this trend.

  • getonagetona SydneyPosts: 98Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Chimps

    Originally posted by Haegemon


    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

    Looking at the games amazing changes over the years it seems Aion will outlive WoW.

    Aions developers has a plan set out for the game and that plan is beyond incredible.

    The only problem Aion has right now is it requires good computers to run it. Many people can't afford those good computers. If we all could afford those computers then Aion would have a much bigger playerbase.

    No No. CryEngine 1 Game with full-on exploited / wall hacks wont outlive WoW.

  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Denver, COPosts: 1,248Member

    happens to a lot of mmo's get over it. :o

  • VrikaVrika FinlandPosts: 2,583Member Uncommon

    WoW lost 300 000 subcribers within last 3 months. At rate of 100 000 subcribers a month, assuming their subcriber base is now 11,1 million, the game has only about 9 years 3 months time left.

    I think it might actually be realistic assumption. WoW will be more than 15 years old by then. Maybe Blizzard could start developing WoW 2 some time around 2015 in preparation for WoW's death.

  • ChimpsChimps KPosts: 192Member

    Originally posted by getona

    Originally posted by Chimps


    Originally posted by Haegemon


    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

    Looking at the games amazing changes over the years it seems Aion will outlive WoW.

    Aions developers has a plan set out for the game and that plan is beyond incredible.

    The only problem Aion has right now is it requires good computers to run it. Many people can't afford those good computers. If we all could afford those computers then Aion would have a much bigger playerbase.

    No No. CryEngine 1 Game with full-on exploited / wall hacks wont outlive WoW.

    I think you missed out that they updated the engine and they are going to update it even more.

    They are going to be using CryEngine 3 soon. So yes Aion is going to be fine. 

    Also full-on exploited wall hacks? Aion is a MMORPG not a FPS, how the hell is wallhacking going to give an advantage for anyone? Are you some clueless WoW fanboy who never played Aion? In fact are you completely clueless? Wallhacks aren't going to benefit anyone in any MMORPG.

  • ZolgarZolgar Glouster, OHPosts: 533Member

    Then Blizzard comes out with an engine upgrade, new combat mechanics, revamped crafting, hardcore (either permadeath and/or Full loot FFA PvP) PvP servers, and more. They gain back all subscribers and then some.

     

    With Blizzards budget, I wouldn't doubt that happening, at least to some small extent anyways.

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  • ChimpsChimps KPosts: 192Member

    Originally posted by Zolgar

    Then Blizzard comes out with an engine upgrade, new combat mechanics, revamped crafting, hardcore (either perma-deth and/or Full loot FFA PvP) PvP servers, and more. They gain back all subscribers and then some.

     

    With Blizzards budget, I wouldn't doubt that happening, at least to some small extent anyways.

    They really need to start working on upgrading the graphics. That's one main reason i'm not playing the game. The game being too easy is atm why i'm not playing it.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
    What you mean by too easy? What have you done yet?

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  • MW2KMW2K Northern Rivers, NSWPosts: 1,031Member Uncommon

    What's this Aion you are talking about?

  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,290Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by PeterRJG

    What's this Aion you are talking about?

    Aion, is one of those really unusual games, where your given wings.. but not allowed to fly...  sort of a reverse redbull...image

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member

    Originally posted by jpnz

     /serious talk

    I think the bigger story is, where are these ex-WoW players going?

    Well, the most jaded ones come here and complain a lot about the designed-to-their-exacting-standards game that never happens.

    Hopefully some of the others just figure out that MMOs are not going to entertain them indefinitely, and return to some other hobby.

    A few may even wander outside and cower away from that big bright thing in the sky.  What's that thing called again?

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • getonagetona SydneyPosts: 98Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Chimps

    Originally posted by getona


    Originally posted by Chimps


    Originally posted by Haegemon


    Originally posted by Robokapp

    at this rate in a few decades wow will have the same playerbase size as Aion. your grandchildern will get to withness wow dying but you'll be long gone by then.

     

    Now thats just completely unfounded and unrealistic...

     

     

    Aion will shut down well before WoW does.

    Looking at the games amazing changes over the years it seems Aion will outlive WoW.

    Aions developers has a plan set out for the game and that plan is beyond incredible.

    The only problem Aion has right now is it requires good computers to run it. Many people can't afford those good computers. If we all could afford those computers then Aion would have a much bigger playerbase.

    No No. CryEngine 1 Game with full-on exploited / wall hacks wont outlive WoW.

    I think you missed out that they updated the engine and they are going to update it even more.

    They are going to be using CryEngine 3 soon. So yes Aion is going to be fine. 

    Also full-on exploited wall hacks? Aion is a MMORPG not a FPS, how the hell is wallhacking going to give an advantage for anyone? Are you some clueless WoW fanboy who never played Aion? In fact are you completely clueless? Wallhacks aren't going to benefit anyone in any MMORPG.

    If you notice my avatar, it's from Aion. Aion is a CE1 game not CE3, don't argue if your clueless (even with the graphic updates  from 2.5 its still a heavily modified version of the CryEngine 1. If u want to know more about the exploits PM  me there is alot of Flying hacks, Animation Skipping hacks, Radar Hacks and more. I never post anything thats BS. :)

     

    Ill give you an example how wall-hacks would be usefull in a MMORPG, skipping trash mobs too the final boss or to loot items.

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