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Pre-NGE SWG is a lot like Woodstock...

DoktorTeufelDoktorTeufel Norfolk, VAPosts: 413Member

...because there are almost certainly lots of people saying they played during that time period who actually didn't.

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  • kobie173kobie173 Rochester, NYPosts: 2,075Member

    Cool story, bro.

    I really don't know what incentive people would have to lie about that.

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Texarkana, TXPosts: 708Member Uncommon

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

  • Squal'ZellSqual'Zell Montreal, QCPosts: 1,803Member

    Originally posted by DarLorkar

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

    the best way to weed out the liars is to ask them what happens after you had permadeath

    true pre-cu players know the real answer

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  • kobie173kobie173 Rochester, NYPosts: 2,075Member

    Originally posted by Squal'Zell

    Originally posted by DarLorkar

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

    the best way to weed out the liars is to ask them what happens after you had permadeath

    true pre-cu players know the real answer

    Permadeath was removed from the game in February 2004; the CU didn't hit until over a year later.

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • Squal'ZellSqual'Zell Montreal, QCPosts: 1,803Member

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by Squal'Zell


    Originally posted by DarLorkar

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

    the best way to weed out the liars is to ask them what happens after you had permadeath

    true pre-cu players know the real answer

    Permadeath was removed from the game in February 2004; the CU didn't hit until over a year later.

    still, any pre-cu player would know what happened after you had permadeath

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  • Warlord33Warlord33 WokingPosts: 79Member

    Originally posted by Squal'Zell

    Originally posted by kobie173


    Originally posted by Squal'Zell


    Originally posted by DarLorkar

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

    the best way to weed out the liars is to ask them what happens after you had permadeath

    true pre-cu players know the real answer

    Permadeath was removed from the game in February 2004; the CU didn't hit until over a year later.

    still, any pre-cu player would know what happened after you had permadeath

    So what happened when you had perma-death?

  • hyllstarterhyllstarter ukiah, CAPosts: 203Member Common

    Well I remember having to walk to your dead body to get your stuff after dying.

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  • JenuvielJenuviel Seattle, WAPosts: 960Member

    I don't remember what happened after perma-death, probably because I spent all of my time dancing in a cantina and crafting until holocrons filled the cantinas with bots. Perma-death, if it even existed at the time, was limited to jedi, which wasn't something that interested me at all. Once the holocrons hit, I moved out of the cantinas and switched to creature handler/ranger, which still had no perma-death. What's more, none of the people I knew or associated with in-game during the early days were jedi; they were primarily medics, tailors, dancers, musicians and image designers, so I'm not sure asking people what happened after perma-death is going to be a terribly accurate test of who was or wasn't there.

  • Squal'ZellSqual'Zell Montreal, QCPosts: 1,803Member

    Originally posted by Jenuviel

    I don't remember what happened after perma-death, probably because I spent all of my time dancing in a cantina and crafting until holocrons filled the cantinas with bots. Perma-death, if it even existed at the time, was limited to jedi, which wasn't something that interested me at all. Once the holocrons hit, I moved out of the cantinas and switched to creature handler/ranger, which still had no perma-death. What's more, none of the people I knew or associated with in-game during the early days were jedi; they were primarily medics, tailors, dancers, musicians and image designers, so I'm not sure asking people what happened after perma-death is going to be a terribly accurate test of who was or wasn't there.

    i see your point

    so no one remembers the blue glowie dead jedi??? (that never actually worked properly so they removed them)

    i do remember going back to your corpse but there was a 75% chance that your corpse bugged out and you could not retrieve your stuff. (they removed that too)

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  • Distopia2Distopia2 Baltimore, MDPosts: 574Member

    Originally posted by DoktorTeufel

    ...because there are almost certainly lots of people saying they played during that time period who actually didn't.

    WTH would people do that?

    To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.

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  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Amory, MSPosts: 2,544Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Squal'Zell

    Originally posted by kobie173


    Originally posted by Squal'Zell


    Originally posted by DarLorkar

    Not me:) never tried it till long after.

     

    The 2 best parts of game for me were, the searching for good resources on the worlds to mine, and the Space game. Ya, i know alot of people never liked space. But was fun for me and i spent quite a bit of time playing it.

     

    But no, was not at woodstock either:P

    the best way to weed out the liars is to ask them what happens after you had permadeath

    true pre-cu players know the real answer

    Permadeath was removed from the game in February 2004; the CU didn't hit until over a year later.

    still, any pre-cu player would know what happened after you had permadeath

    I played SWG before the CU, and I have no idea what the answer to that question would be.  Just because you say you played doesn't always mean you played for a long time or participated in the jedi grind.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy HomePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by DoktorTeufel

    ...because there are almost certainly lots of people saying they played during that time period who actually didn't.

    That is about the only comparison. It fails if you look at the rest. The major difference is quality of content :p

    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices. While the major downside of Woodstock was just some mud, but had an awesome selection of the best music of that time. With live recordings that are still very popular.

    That's why any musiclover would have wanted to be at Woodstock. While with SWG its mainly disgruntled SWG vets that look back through rosecoloured glasses,that would want Pre-NGE SWG back the way it was. Which only works as long as they dont get to play it again.

  • KalafaxKalafax Gainesville, FLPosts: 522Member Uncommon

    Pretty much what SuperZero said, I was a Smuggler/Pikeman and never delt with holocrons other then to deal them for credits, I spent all my time crafting and selling Spice for credits, Slicing locked containers for credits ( Always taking the force crystals if they had them, they never knew. ), Getting paid to slice Armor and Weapons with crafting tools from the highest quality ores to always get the best slices, Slicing mission terminals for over double mission payouts, and dealing Force crystals to hidden jedis for tons of credits, and last but not least selling hidden Jedi locations to Bounty Hunters for lots of credits.

    Never delt with the perma death, force users never been my thing, I like the Star Wars Universe from the nonforce sensitive side.

    Mess with the best, Die like the rest

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member

    I was there, it felt liked the golden age of MMORPG's and i was mostly stoned

    (what , hhuh, "is that possible in a game already ?!", "wau its like live in star wars and every moment i will step onto Darth Vader", "omg i am invited to someone's wedding on naboo", "wth did someone pulled a lightsaber at the cantina and has now all the blasters chasing him?", "wtf is with all the bubbles in the airport, hell a lot of peeps"  and all that) 

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  • GreenHellGreenHell ludlow, MAPosts: 1,322Member Uncommon

    I never wanted to be a Jedi. I never did the hologrind. IMO the need to be a jedi made people lose their damn minds. Paying huge amounts of money on ebay for jedi accounts, grinding for months on end and for what? SOE should have never added playable Jedi to the game. It was the begining of the end for SWG.

  • CasualMakerCasualMaker Somerset, NJPosts: 870Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by someforumguy

    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices.

    For this statement to be true, then "all players" must have been interested primarily in combat, and PvP combat at that. As I know this was not the case, your statement fails.

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,978Member Uncommon

    I played then. . no idea about permadeath.  I think I quit before people even knew how to become a jedi. . best game ever! ;)

    The real question is:  In The Realm during alpha how did you cure poison if you were bit by a wolf ? :)

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  • fionanshrekfionanshrek madison, WIPosts: 104Member

    Originally posted by CasualMaker

    Originally posted by someforumguy

    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices.

    For this statement to be true, then "all players" must have been interested primarily in combat, and PvP combat at that. As I know this was not the case, your statement fails.

     Why would all players have to be interested primarily in combat for this statement to be true.  The game at launch was riddled with bugs many of which lasted until and beyond the NGE.

    Now the skill system comment I can't agree with I thought the original class system had something for everyone and can't remember seeing any class as dominant.

    In regards to the threads topic though for this player maybe the NGE was like woodstock but meh I don't know if SWG deserves that high of a perch because for many people it was just another game that was riddled with bugs and a lack of quality content.

    Many people have lasting memories from woodstock for reasons other than "it was their first concert".  Lots of people are hung up on SWG because for many it was the first time they played a game like that.

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,978Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by fionanshrek

    Originally posted by CasualMaker


    Originally posted by someforumguy



    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices.

    For this statement to be true, then "all players" must have been interested primarily in combat, and PvP combat at that. As I know this was not the case, your statement fails.

     Why would all players have to be interested primarily in combat for this statement to be true.  The game at launch was riddled with bugs many of which lasted until and beyond the NGE.

    Now the skill system comment I can't agree with I thought the original class system had something for everyone and can't remember seeing any class as dominant.

    I played a droid engineer with a bit of exploration and blaster skills.  I loved it.  No cookie cutter for me.  I also had some medical thrown in I believe.  Also you could change it :)

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  • fionanshrekfionanshrek madison, WIPosts: 104Member

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn

    Originally posted by fionanshrek

    Originally posted by CasualMaker

    Originally posted by someforumguy

    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices.

    For this statement to be true, then "all players" must have been interested primarily in combat, and PvP combat at that. As I know this was not the case, your statement fails.

     Why would all players have to be interested primarily in combat for this statement to be true.  The game at launch was riddled with bugs many of which lasted until and beyond the NGE.

    Now the skill system comment I can't agree with I thought the original class system had something for everyone and can't remember seeing any class as dominant.

    I played a droid engineer with a bit of exploration and blaster skills.  I loved it.  No cookie cutter for me.  I also had some medical thrown in I believe.  Also you could change it :)

     I stated that part you may have a point on but if anything his statement was atleast a half truth because the game was riddled with bugs and it in fact did lack quality content.

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,978Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by fionanshrek

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn


    Originally posted by fionanshrek


    Originally posted by CasualMaker


    Originally posted by someforumguy



    SWG was riddled with bugs and offered barely content and a skillsystem that looked nice on paper but funneled all players into a few cookiecutter choices.

    For this statement to be true, then "all players" must have been interested primarily in combat, and PvP combat at that. As I know this was not the case, your statement fails.

     Why would all players have to be interested primarily in combat for this statement to be true.  The game at launch was riddled with bugs many of which lasted until and beyond the NGE.

    Now the skill system comment I can't agree with I thought the original class system had something for everyone and can't remember seeing any class as dominant.

    I played a droid engineer with a bit of exploration and blaster skills.  I loved it.  No cookie cutter for me.  I also had some medical thrown in I believe.  Also you could change it :)

     I stated that part you may have a point on but if anything his statement was atleast a half truth because the game was riddled with bugs and it in fact did lack quality content.

    Very true. . in fact the droid engineer tree, abilities etc. was never finshed from what I recall.

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  • DoktorTeufelDoktorTeufel Norfolk, VAPosts: 413Member

    Why would someone make a false claim to having played SWG pre-NGE? Simple: Nerd cred. "I played pre-NGE SWG" or "I played pre-Trammel UO" or "I played pre-[whatever]" EQ. There's a certain e-peen factor to having gotten in on the ground floor of a pivotal MMO. Same thing with Woodstock, it was a pivotal event in a time and place that a lot of people would like to think they were a part of, even if they actually weren't (to be fair though, far more people played SWG than attended Woodstock).

     

    Don't tell me you haven't seen people write stuff like this all around MMORPG.com: "I was playing back in closed beta, and...." That's essentially claiming ultimate seniority in the game as far as how long one has been around.

     

    It's not a big deal, it's a video game after all.

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  • fionanshrekfionanshrek madison, WIPosts: 104Member

    Originally posted by DoktorTeufel

    Why would someone make a false claim to having played SWG pre-NGE? Simple: Nerd cred. "I played pre-NGE SWG" or "I played pre-Trammel UO" or "I played pre-[whatever]" EQ. There's a certain e-peen factor to having gotten in on the ground floor of a pivotal MMO. Same thing with Woodstock, it was a pivotal event in a time and place that a lot of people would like to think they were a part of, even if they actually weren't (to be fair though, far more people played SWG than attended Woodstock).

     

    Don't tell me you haven't seen people write stuff like this all around MMORPG.com: "I was playing back in closed beta, and...." That's essentially claiming ultimate seniority in the game as far as how long one has been around.

     

    It's not a big deal, it's a video game after all.

     The only problem is I don't know of one single person proven to have lied about playing pre NGE SWG.  In many cases to even make that statement you have to know something  that the average gamer wouldn't know.

  • BanquetchefBanquetchef Aurora, MOPosts: 19Member

    Don't take the yellow pills. Stay away from the yellow pills...

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshPosts: 5,503Member Uncommon

    Just the other day, a girl I was interested in straight lied to my face about it. I told her it was over after that. How can I trust someone that lies about having played pre-NGE SWG? I can't. And I won't.

     

    YOU WEREN'T THERE. Get over it. You aren't as cool as the people that played pre-NGE SWG. You never will be. Stop lying to us about it.

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