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DUST 514: Will Require Initial "Cover Charge"

MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community ManagerQueens, NYPosts: 5,718Administrator Uncommon

PS3 players of CCP Games upcoming EVE Online MMOFPS tie-in DUST 514 will be required to pay an initial "cover charge" for the game when the game launches, though the charge will be refunded with in-game currency.

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In an interview with GamesIndustry.biz, CCP Games CEO Hilmar Pétursson notes that players will basically get the game free of charge, but will be required to pre-buy $10-20 worth of credits at launch, though he also leaves the door open for the possibility of the game going "fully free-to-play" down the line.

Source: GamesIndustry.biz

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  • marinridermarinrider Tomball, TXPosts: 1,556Member

    In game currency?  This is a sure fancy way of saying that you get starter cash with your box purchase.  I dont know if they have said this before but it sounds like Dust will have some sort of cash shop if they consider it to be "Free" after you get that currency. 

  • OtakunOtakun New Providence, PAPosts: 864Member

    Why not just make it buy to play then? saying its free to play would be a lie then.

  • Excalaber2Excalaber2 Merrick, NYPosts: 357Member Uncommon

    Wait this is really weird.  So, technically they are saying a FTP game will be deployed on the PS3?  They have  a fee they already have to pay for their game to be on the PS3 so they lose money right off the bat.  I thought this was going to be a box sale game. Or...is it?

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  • KalafaxKalafax Gainesville, FLPosts: 521Member Uncommon

    Thats where Im confused Excalaber, I've been under the impression of the years of following this that it was going to be a box sale game, and then a monthly subscription just like EvE seeing as its supposed to be a revolutionary console fpsmmo

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  • achmed20achmed20 oldenburgPosts: 23Member

    because if u dont like the game and sell it, the buyer has to pay the fee again and ccp gets money.

    pretty good idea if u ask me as long as the game itself is free OR cheap to have.

  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon

    In reality who cares?  Not buying a PS3 to play this so they can do what they want with this title.  Personally there are a lot more xbox's out there than PS3's not sure why they went the PS3 route.  The PS3 is actually harder to code for too.

  • Deathwing980Deathwing980 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 80Member

    ozmodan, i believe its because Xbox requires you to pay per update for videogame releases and since CCP does massive updates almost each week that would lead to substantial costs

     

    PS3 doesnt charge for updates and online subscriptions like xbox so that may be the appealing deal for releaseing this on ps3

     

    personally i would rather see this on PC over the consoles since EVE is PC!

  • LokathLokath Venice, FLPosts: 33Member

    It's not going to be a PS3 game. It's going to be a PSN game.

  • SnoepieSnoepie RotterdamPosts: 470Member

    they must have relations with goldsellers :O

  • ArquitetoArquiteto Cranston, RIPosts: 228Member

    PS3 gives devs more options as far as outside access goes. That is the reason Steam is on PS3 and not on 360.This allows PS3 and PC can play Portal 2 coop together.

    This game is going to have a CASH SHOP. They stated in an article that eventually there would be no entry fee. IT could work if they charge small fees for entire kits like the new Tribes plans on doing. However these are the guys who are charging $70 for an avatar monacle in eve and have remained firm that they think there pricing is fine.

    I used to LOVE CCp. Played eve for many years, but there slow conversion from passtionate devs to Money Hungry Hippos.

  • mogi67mogi67 15317, PAPosts: 65Member

     

    news flash: game developer announces that you have to buy their game to play it 


  • WarzodWarzod Mesa, AZPosts: 312Member

    CCP has to make sure they announce that their new game is going to include a cash shop as early as possible to avoid another catastophe like EvE. And... I see this one being received just about as well.

  • Southpaw.GamerSouthpaw.Gamer Guelph, ONPosts: 572Member

    I like many others are upset at the fact it's not a PC game... however I have a PS3 already and play EVE so I know I will be checking it out regardless of what it is being released on.  Actually setting my corp up now to take part in DUST 514 when it does release.

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  • IllyssiaIllyssia LondonPosts: 1,524Member

    Hard to see how it could survive wihout online cash shop...certainly the cash buy-in points a way to them making money without a download price or a regular sub.

  • DEXA88DEXA88 VarnaPosts: 45Member Uncommon

    CCP wana make shure that PS3 players will buy monocles :)

  • McGamerMcGamer Fairfield Bay, ARPosts: 1,012Member

    CCP doesn't have my vote or money any longer after they caved in to the whiners concerning the useless "ship spinning" fiasco.

    I prefer game companies that actually stick to their design goals and evolve with modern technology. 

  • bumuscheekusbumuscheekus LondonPosts: 214Member

    Let me understand this properly. This game is an FPS ancillary plug-in to the Eve online universe, a very popular game for PC. Everyone playing Eve has been getting excited about it since it was announced as an interesting new FPS angle to the game to take the edge off the endless cash grind and slightly removed spaceship-based theme. And...you can only play it on the PS3, consoles being for most PC gamers, the macDonalds prostitute of poor gaming choice. Emmm. Why is no one pointing out that that's the dumbest most idiotic concept in the history of computer games. Or am I missing something crucial? 

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Almost Mexico, CAPosts: 724Member

    Originally posted by bumuscheekus

    Let me understand this properly. This game is an FPS ancillary plug-in to the Eve online universe, a very popular game for PC. Everyone playing Eve has been getting excited about it since it was announced as an interesting new FPS angle to the game to take the edge off the endless cash grind and slightly removed spaceship-based theme. And...you can only play it on the PS3, consoles being for most PC gamers, the macDonalds prostitute of poor gaming choice. Emmm. Why is no one pointing out that that's the dumbest most idiotic concept in the history of computer games. Or am I missing something crucial? 

    It was covered by the majority of players the second the console-exclusive choice was announced, hence why so many Eve players could give a crap less about the game.

  • bumuscheekusbumuscheekus LondonPosts: 214Member

    Ah fair enough I must not have noticed the kfuffle. Still, worst marketing choice I've seen in a very long time. 

  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,032Member Uncommon

    You can play this game for free. You just have to pay us first...lately every time I read something from CCP I have to check to make sure it aint 1st of April already. 

  • IllyssiaIllyssia LondonPosts: 1,524Member

    It's a cash game. You have to buy-in with a certain ammount to gain the necessary currency. You may even get rewarded for being good, but ultimately CCP are suggesting Dust 514 as cash stakes game that ties into EvE and vice versa.

  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Somewhere Out There, PAPosts: 2,320Member Uncommon

    I don't understand the purpose? Why would they say the game is free, but then say you have to pay to get in? Why not just say the game will be 'cheap' or 'buy 2 pay'?

    There's nothing wrong with either of those two scenarios, but when you start playing word games it makes people wary of your product and company.

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  • IllyssiaIllyssia LondonPosts: 1,524Member

    Well...it is quite simple really,  cash stakes or cash buy-in is a very proftiable way to go for FPS game since they are short-term tournament-style games. If CCP can get buy-ins of $10 K (i.e. 1000 going in with a $10 buy-in) for major Dust 514 tournaments at some points you are talking Blizzard-style money, but by a different gaming model. Before you say that $10 buy-in is just chicken feed, let's imagine that down the road the online tournaments catch on and you get elite tournaments with $50 or more buy-in...can see how this model works folks!

  • jakinjakin somewhere, ONPosts: 243Member Common

    Originally posted by bumuscheekus

    Let me understand this properly. ... Or am I missing something crucial? 


     

     Kind of missing something. 

    Dust514 isn't really an add-on to EVE, it's CCP's attempt to branch out into console games.  To do that, they're using their established intellectual property (that being the universe of EVE) to build a FPS.  Then, because they're CCP and they like to try to be different, they're going to try and make a persistent FPS that links into their PC game but remains separate.

    (I'm getting this from fanfest interviews mainly)

    The business decision to expand their userbase into the console realm is what's behind the title.  They could have used World of Darkness or anything else, but for reasons I can understand they went with their most well known property. 

  • psycrospsycros parkersburg, WVPosts: 15Member

    DUST will be exactly that, because nobody will play it.  EVE players have virtually no interest, hard core FPS-ers have no interest in a pay-to-win game, and casual players aren't very interested in FPS.  A fail waiting to happen, much like EVE itself is becoming.

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