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Star Trek Online: The 2011 Re-Review

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,658MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

Fans of the original Star Trek television series and fans of MMOs rejoiced when Star Trek Online was announced. Some of that enthusiasm was tempered, however, once it was released in early 2010. Cryptic Studios has had 18 months to make good on the hopes of its fans. In an MMORPG.com re-review, Lori May takes a look at today's Star Trek Online and how it's progressed since release. Read on!

Space: The final frontier. A place that, thanks to the highly successful Star Trek franchise, is less mysterious and far more familiar than it was fifty years ago. Before the iconic Star Trek (better known as Star Trek: The Original Series or TOS these days) took us there for each episode of this Sci-Fi television hit space was something left purely to our imagination. But has Cryptic’s Star Trek Online (STO) lived up to those famous roots, transporting us all into the world where no man has gone before in an enjoyable, authentic way that holds its own with other MMORPG titles currently on the market? Let’s take a closer look at STO, a pay-to-play (P2P) MMO which combines ship-based combat and ground activities to create a complex, elaborate MMO in a familiar way.

Read more of Lori May's Star Trek Online Re-Review.


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  • J4ck_5p4rr0wJ4ck_5p4rr0w Dublin, GAPosts: 20Member
    That makes no sense. The last review was 7.4, and the game has improved since then. Your saying the game has gotten worse since the last review? I guess this websites own reviewers arent even in agreement.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon

    Yeah was wondering the exact same thing.

    We can hate Cryptic all we want for what they delivered at launch.

    But even I have to admit the game has gotten a lot better over the past year.

    Sector space looks much better now you can dissable the horrible grid.

    The Episode storyline missions are plain awesome and great fun!

    The crafting facility and options at Memory Alpha have been improved significantly and you can now actually craft useful items.

    So eventho it's still not the real Trek experience we all wanted (altho the Episode series are really cool), the game really has improved a lot.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,916Member Uncommon

    Yeah I have to agree with the two posters above, a game moving down in score, when the actual game has improved since the original score, makes no sense at all.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

    It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  • mCalvertmCalvert Tallahassee, FLPosts: 1,283Member

    Perhaps the original score was too high? And the once you get over the hype, the game is shallow.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Tacoma, WAPosts: 738Member

    Why not just wait for season 4 to hit the live server before doing another review?

  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon

    I agree with the posters above. Lowering the overall score??? Yet, the review admits that Cryptic is continually improving things???

    One other thing, one of the major "complaints" was in regards to ground combat. Did the reviewer not realise that a MAJOR revamp of ground combat is coming in just TWO WEEKS? Could (or should) the reviewer not have waited at least that long to post this review? That comment alone makes me think the reviewer is not doing his job. Sorry but my opinion.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Dublin, GAPosts: 329Member Uncommon

    ^^^ Seriously. Season 4 is scheduled to go live July 7th, so doing another review now(and rating it less than the last review at that) is pretty silly.

  • marz.at.playmarz.at.play Mississauga, ONPosts: 912Member

    Bad reviewer. I agree with top posters. Makes no sense to do a re-review when the big patch is less then two weeks away and then on top of it all reviewing it with a lower score then original when the game has in fact improved. lol...GG!

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  • kishekishe aitooPosts: 1,960Member Uncommon

    Season4 will revamp multiple game systems so making re-review now is kinda waste.

     

    I'd recommend deleting this and reposting after launch of Season4

  • barezzbarezz Granite City, ILPosts: 140Member Uncommon

    Again, a meaningless score from a meaningless system from MMORPG.com.  Remember that article that was asking about what could be done to fix reviews here?  How does a game get a higher score during a bad launch and then a lower score when it makes a lot of improvements?

    Either make some kind of meaningful system for reviews or stop giving things a score.

  • TalinTalin West Babylon, NYPosts: 824Member

    Scores are completely subjective, so why wouldn't they vary over time? Reviews such as these do not necessarily just evaluate a game on its own merit, they evaluate the features and other aspects in relationship with the current market. I read this to indicate that STO looks even worse now compared to other games in the current genre.

    Besides, if you really do disagree on the review/score, why not point out that is better/worthwhile? Saying the game is "about" to get better with a new patch won't convince anyone as players are a bit jaded by the numerous "miracle" patches over the last few years that rarely delivery as much as anticipated/desired.

  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Dublin, GAPosts: 329Member Uncommon



    Originally posted by Talin





    Scores are completely subjective, so why wouldn't they vary over time?






     

    Saying a game has improved yet lowering its score is contradictory. Also, writing up a new review when you know a big update is coming out in 2 weeks and saying your going to do another review afterward is a waste of time.

  • shakermaker0shakermaker0 SheffieldPosts: 194Member

    In regards to the review score - the game may well have gotten better, but if you haven't noticed MMORPG.com is using a new scoring system. Where before it was largely arbitrary of the writing coming up with a number based on their impressions, now it is a matter of scoring 7 catergories, then getting an average. It may be lower than the last score but the new system will be fairer but you will probably expect to see more like this.

  • shakermaker0shakermaker0 SheffieldPosts: 194Member

    Originally posted by shakermaker0



    In regards to the review score - the game may well have gotten better, but if you haven't noticed MMORPG.com is using a new scoring system. Where before it was largely arbitrary of the writing coming up with a number based on their impressions, now it is a matter of scoring 7 catergories, then getting an average. It may be lower than the last score but the new system will be fairer but you will probably expect to see more like this.


     

    Plus reviews are writing with a lot of time in advance, the idea of waiting for an update would in all possibility bring a review schedule to a grinding halt

  • J4ck_5p4rr0wJ4ck_5p4rr0w Dublin, GAPosts: 20Member
    Originally posted by shakermaker0

    In regards to the review score - the game may well have gotten better, but if you haven't noticed MMORPG.com is using a new scoring system.

     

    yeah, the last review was broken out into these categories as well. so what was your point again?
  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon



    Originally posted by J4ck_5p4rr0w



    That makes no sense. The last review was 7.4, and the game has improved since then. Your saying the game has gotten worse since the last review? I guess this websites own reviewers arent even in agreement.





     



    We're in transition to a new system of reviewing games (we'll be announcing it soon) and each review  has been done (and often has been done) by different writers. Scores will vary for this reason, a game's score isn't guaranteed to go up or stay the same with every re-review.

    Also, let me add that the review was in progress long before Season 4 was set to hit live servers. We'll most certainly re-visit the game post-Season 4.

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MikeB



    Originally posted by J4ck_5p4rr0w



    That makes no sense. The last review was 7.4, and the game has improved since then. Your saying the game has gotten worse since the last review? I guess this websites own reviewers arent even in agreement.





     

    We're in transition to a new system of reviewing games (we'll be announcing it soon) and each review  has been done (and often has been done) by different writers. Scores will vary for this reason, a game's score isn't guaranteed to go up or stay the same with every re-review.

     That explanation is fine...to a point. It still does not justify posting a review in which one of the MAJOR complaints is being addressed in two weeks hence. The review also looks a bit "rushed" in that it did mention "improvements" but barely speaks of them. Bad timing is one thing. Bad management is another (not a personsal reference to you MikeB).

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  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Dublin, GAPosts: 329Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MikeB



    Also, let me add that the review was in progress long before Season 4 was set to hit live servers. We'll most certainly re-visit the game post-Season 4.

     

    "Long before"? How long exactly? A week? A month? How much playtime did the author have? Those would be some good things to include in your "new system" at the begining of every review.

  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,724Administrator Uncommon

    Originally posted by Gruug



    Originally posted by MikeB




    Originally posted by J4ck_5p4rr0w



    That makes no sense. The last review was 7.4, and the game has improved since then. Your saying the game has gotten worse since the last review? I guess this websites own reviewers arent even in agreement.





     



    We're in transition to a new system of reviewing games (we'll be announcing it soon) and each review  has been done (and often has been done) by different writers. Scores will vary for this reason, a game's score isn't guaranteed to go up or stay the same with every re-review.

     That explanation is fine...to a point. It still does not justify posting a review in which one of the MAJOR complaints is being addressed in two weeks hence. The review also looks a bit "rushed" in that it did mention "improvements" but barely speaks of them. Bad timing is one thing. Bad management is another (not a personsal reference to you MikeB).


     

    Rather than throw out the reviewer's work we decided to publish the review. Again, you can be sure we'll check out the game again post-Season 4.

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • Esquire1980Esquire1980 Stillwater, OKPosts: 529Member

    I'm a current subscriber and to tell the honest truth, I think the reviewer did get a very honest review of STO.

    Even with S4 out next month, there is still no end-game in STO which makes the longevity of STO basicly non-existant.  I have now leveled 2 V-Ads and I really have no wish to go thru the exact same content I have done twice before to level another one.  The thought is almost painful.  I no longer even log into my main toon as there is basicly nothing within the game mechanics to make me even want to.  PVP is a constant NERF fest being driven by a very small amount of forum players that seem to dominate developer interest and time.  It is simply not worth it to take the time to get a build that is able to compete when these few can complain and Cryptic will fall in lockstep with these few cryers to insure nothing more than the cryers sucess.  With all that in mind, I think MMORPG.com even glassed over very large problems with STO.

    All in all, I believe the score is a very optimistic view.

  • J4ck_5p4rr0wJ4ck_5p4rr0w Dublin, GAPosts: 20Member
    End game means different things to different people. For some its PvE, for some its PvP, for others its crafting, collecting, etc. For me, its simply having new missions to do. And for that purpose I have all the content I will ever need with the Foundry. I literally have a new mission to play every single time I log on, and that is far more than any other MMO currently offers me.
  • zeowyrmzeowyrm Bangor, MEPosts: 746Member

    Second review in a row where this particular writer lowers the score from a previous review while praising the improvements to the game since the last review.  What I've gathered from this: Ignore all future reviews by this writer.

  • theniffrigtheniffrig DublinPosts: 351Member

    Agree with alot of the above posts.

    The logic that the reviewer uses; stating it's improved since release yet it's score has been reduced, is deeply flawed in my opinion.

    Again MMORPG.com own rating system in flawed & more importantly, in my own opinion, unmemorable. A simple 5STAR rating system that the hotel industry uses would not only be more memorable, but also more credible. STO would most likely be rated a 2 or 3 Star MMO.

  • CohasCohas Savannah, GAPosts: 148Member Uncommon

    should have waited till Season 4 to hit the live server

    Have No Fear Cohas is here!!!
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  • staranstaran ottawa, ONPosts: 83Member Uncommon
    Ugh. Useless reviewing standards.
    30 out of 11 pickles for that review.
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