Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Another terrible game, launched far too early with little to insight or inspiration
This discussion has been closed.
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Comments
I think many people have noticed them, but the PvP controls are very unintuitive. Parry and Dodge are useless.... and its not even a question of performing one correctly at the right time (which is virtually impossible with the way the ping is -- dodge should be block, and it should be a constant hold instead of left or right hold -- parry should be the only interactive ability and should be way more forgiving).
I think if these items were easier to fix they wouldn't have brought someone in to deal with PvP explicitly. A lot of other things don't quite add up... medicine isn't in the game yet, nor is some sort of metal working. Junk piles are the main resource right now, but I get the feeling its more so because they haven't implemented all of the skills to make players self sufficient on world nodes like using rocks to mine, or taming animals to keep up wildlife populations, etc.
Then we have stats that are used in skills that aren't applicable right now, a cooking skill that doesn't do anything at all, and some recipes that use items that aren't even in the game yet.
Nothing too serious, as it doesn't stop you from playing the game, or fulfilling a purpose, but not exactly working as some had hoped.
You can look past these items and still have a very enjoyable game, but much of what is there is either placeholder, or not fully implemented with, maybe the exception of some crafting skills and some various excavation/gathering abilities. What is there is still very fun to use, but had it been fully working at this time with all features ready to go and just server stability being a problem, I think we'd be seeing very different posts.
That's essentially what I've been saying this entire time. We don't have the full list of skills and features in yet, but everything that we do have (again, aside from PvP) is working as intended, and the core concepts of the game are implemented. The peripherals (things like you mentioned, such as medicine and metalworking) wouldn't really fit in with the current lore for the game anyway (tribes of savages killing each other with rocks), so I'm not too upset. And when I was referring to "easy to fix" I was excluding the PvP. Maybe I should not have, though, because Jordi brought in a specialist specifically to work on it, and I fully expect to see improvements as soon as this little spat is taken care of.
What was annoying me was that people were making the game out like it was a mess of broken mechanics and bugs - but it's not. Far from it. And Elmoren calling the game terrible because it doesn't have a tutorial? I don't know whether to roll my eyes and laugh or shoot myself because there is actually someone alive that utterly helpless.
In my palm I hold the world, in my hand I grasp it.
I loosened my fist but for an instant,
and thus I failed to clasp it.
We don't have time to "Laud" the positives of the game, were all to busy getting our fishing xp to 90. That, and auto running into rocks..
Nah, I really like the game, and may be the only one who thinks the combat is fun. Then again, I'm not the brightest knife in the pond.
Launch is tomorrow. Why claim that it already launched?
I still like it, reported 2 critical bugs during this "fish and gather" phase and they got fixed in a day so devs are on the ball. Patience is a virtue, rather have a launch postponed then broken game. Besides subscription does not start running until official launch (again - not yet happened, if someone tells you differently he is not saying the truth) so I'm not paying for an unfinished product (yet).
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
Not to be an ass here, but isn't this like the textbook definition of what hardcore elitist old skool gamers look for?
Well, I agree people are too quick to ask for refunds these days. I have no issue with spending 40 bucks, that's not really the issue since I knew I was paying for a beta (well, that, and a "headstart" that shrunk from 2 weeks to like... 3 days or something) and fully expected some troubles. Seems a lot of people think they're the all-important center of the universe just because they spent a little money on a product. I guess modern consumerism and the "customer is always right" culture have produced that mindset - and I think it's pathetic.
For me though, it's about time and patience rather than money. I'm tired of hoping that a game will improve, tired of investing energy into it based on its "potential". I'd rather just play something else, or do something else than gaming altogether, than waste more time on another broken game. Life's too short to play bad games ("bad" also meaning "incomplete", "unfinished", "unstable" and "devoid of content").
That is exactly how I feel. I played jumpgate Classic off and on for 4-6 years. Every now and then I get the yearning to get back in that world. I pre-paid for Xzyon because I saw something special. Yes, I have played all the mmorpg's from UO to WoW and now Rift. Xsyon is very unique, refreshing and yes, a little frustrating, but can see me playing this game for years to come. I enjoy trying to figure things out.
Will my Tribe go away, maybe, but I will join another one. I am hoping that this is not going to be another vaporware.
[b]Don't get me started on character creation, where you get to allocate meaningless stat points into a few commonly named places. I label them as meaningless because there is no way to figure out what each one does, and in game - some are even less obvious then their labels.[/b]
Stats do have a purpose, asking ingame will normally get you some friendly help. There are also threads devoted to the topic, any of which you can read up on. The Dev(s) have stated multiple times they want the customers to figure things out for themselves, that being the case they still asked for volunteers to draft a New User Tutorial... just for you.
[b]Tooltips are not hard to write. They are not hard to implement, and they are inexcusable not to have in any program, of any kind (except perhaps a calculator) in any production level environment since 1995. Information is never a bad thing. Not having these means you're allergic to success and money.[/b]
There are tooltips in game, you didn't see them because they are currently turned off as the reflected information such as : Quality and degradation is turned off.
Out of curiosity, how's launch day going?
The contents of this post do not necessarily reflect the views of MMORPG.com and its management.
I think a lot of people are forgetting that a game like this isn't something you play for a few weeks then bin it..
If this game is something you like then your going to be playing it for months, if not years. Having a few issues at the start of the game is nothing. Having a dev team that obviously care and take in feedback matters a lot more.
For those who have played the game a year ago and look at it now it is obvious that there have been a lot of changes made. And this is while Jordi is still going through a lot of the older code that the previous programmer messed up. Now that a lot of those kind of issues are being fixed if they havent been already he and his team can start focusing on introducing new features once more.
Everyone is quick to see issues and flaws but they don't spend as much time looking at the progress made or how the game is shaping up as a whole. As always people have blinkers on and are not looking at the bigger picture.
The reason, as Jordi himself advised, the game was released even though he didnt want it to be was that he was working so hard and for so long that he was more or less making himself physically ill. He was having to go through old code that he thought had been finished off and completed to a certain level and stage by the previous programmer he was hiring and found out that much of the 'work' was way below standard and not anywhere near complete.
Add to that the fact that his server hosts have been messing him around left right and center and that he can't exactly just tell them to go away and change host and the flick of a switch.. He has been put in a pretty bad position and given all that has happened I think he has a done a fantastic job. Now that he has worked past a lot of the backlog that has been generated up to now he can start spending an increasing amount of time working toward adding new content and features. And this is the perfect time for the playerbase to add in their opinions and try help Jordi make the right decisions.
I screwed up. The game isnt what I thought it would be. I actually thought it would be like UO on steroids, instead, it bored me to death. I cancelled my sub. Now I am back to WoW and playing Earth and Beyond.
Actually, more in Earth and Beyond. The people who broght back EnB did a fantastic job. I even donated 25.00 to them to help them improve it. I wasted 40.00 on Xsyon. Oh well, it's only money, right? ;-)