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  • KraossKraoss Niles, OHPosts: 71Member

    Crazy people will do crazy things. It is dangerous stepping outside every day.

    Walk into a bar, run your mouth off, act a fool and there will be consequences.

    Don't want to risk it? Don't go to the bar. (Or Forum)

     

  • BiohunterBiohunter East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 97Member

    While I do think this would stop many poeple from acting the fool, it is VERY dangerous. Just a thought, considering the large female population (at least in my server and guild) this is bad. These days you can just google someones name and BAM! there there facebook page, myspace, ect ect.

     

    To make matters worse, lets say you join a vent, now you IP is available to the vent admin. Now this IP address alone is dangerous to a degree but couple that with your name, lol. Thats a license to stalk for a less than honest person.

     

    Edit: Not saying this is only an issue for our female gamers but, as a husband and a father it is my main concern.

  • SteamRangerSteamRanger Great Northwest, WAPosts: 920Member Uncommon

    I can't believe anyone acually thought this was a good idea. The only upside is that it might render the oh-so-smug MVP posters less likely to spew their smarmy jibes at other posters.

    "Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
    "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift

  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonPosts: 3,191Member

    It's the most pants-on-head retarded idea I've ever heard of. It makes the NGE look like a customer-focused masterpiece.

    With a single stroke, Blizzard will ensure that a good porportion of their female players, as well as many from ethnic minorities and "unpopoular" nations and religions will simply leave. It also has appalling account security implications.

     I almost hope they go ahead with it, so that the result can be a chilling example to other companies contemplating such an idiotic move. "Remember those guys a few years back that were raking in a bill a year for a damb video game, then they pissed it away because they wanted to turn their forums into facebook?"

    Go on Blizzard: do it. I dare you! I double dog dare you! Come on you pussies: DO IT!

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL NetherlandsPosts: 2,280Member Common

    Originally posted by Malcanis

     

    With a single stroke, Blizzard will ensure that a good porportion of their female players, as well as many from ethnic minorities and "unpopoular" nations and religions will simply leave.

    Huh?

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  • bastionixbastionix xxxxxxxxxxPosts: 547Member

    He means taht those demographics will get stalked in World of Stalkcraft.

  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonPosts: 3,191Member

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    I think it's great, simply by looking at the responses people have to this. Offcourse people are going to cry a river; they won't be able to forum-grief anymore while hiding behind their "p0wnzo0rz" alias.

    I'm for it, simply because I have nothing to hide.

    Btw: Blizzard isn't going to magically go bankrupt over this either. Who are people trying to kid?

     Why would they bother to forum-grief when they have your name, quickly followed by your facebook account, quickly followed by your address and place of work?

    Now stop me if this all sounds far-fetched, but they might be able to use this information to really grief you, and then (this is the really cunning part) not use their real name while they do it!

    Net result:

    Still no consequences for the assholes

    Huge consequences for you.

     

    Oh yeah, it's now also way easier for them to steal your account too. Have fun grinding back up from level 1.

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • uquipuuquipu Roma, PAPosts: 1,516Member

    it only applies to forum posters
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    WoW's launch caused SWG's NGE. SWG was losing 10,000 subs a day to wow, sony had to do something

    Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren

  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member

    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    Johnson! You said you were working on that report over the weekend!

     

    I was Sir! All weekend!

     

    Looks to me like you were posting on the WoW forums! You're fired!

    Nice impact on the market with all the addicts gone.

    Eleanor Rigby.

  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonPosts: 3,191Member

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Originally posted by Malcanis

     

    With a single stroke, Blizzard will ensure that a good porportion of their female players, as well as many from ethnic minorities and "unpopoular" nations and religions will simply leave.

    Huh?

     Let's imagime I am Sammy The Stereotypical Redneck.

    I see Mahmoud Ibn Rahid post on the forums. A damb dirty muslim! A heathen! A freedom-hater! And now I know who his character is too, because he's proud of his level 80 Dark-Elf Cow-Tamer or whatever.

    Do you think Mahmoud is now more likely or less likely to be the receipient of Sammy's ignorant and unwelcome opinions about ay-rabs and allah than before?

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • generals3generals3 MehPosts: 3,307Member

    Originally posted by bastionix

    Originally posted by generals3



     

    Change job than. I'm sorry but if that's the mentality of your co-workers your better off working in psychiatric asylum ...

    The thing is, they link your WoW account to your Armory playtime, and now your name....

    Thinking about skipping school / job and playing WoW? Forget it!..they will know.

    Thinking about not attending that marriage / night out / interview? Forget it, thanks to the new World of Stalkerville, ppl can find out.

    Sounds like a fun world being monitored by everyone, I'll pass though.

    Well thats true , but than again i had the luck for almost no one i knew to play WoW (only very few) so i cba about that. But i can see how that can be annoying for others who happen to have more contacts who play WoW.

    But i'm still more worried about the people with bad intentions lurking the internet , how less information these guys have about you how better

    Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
    Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.

  • TealaTeala SomewherePosts: 7,430Member Uncommon

    I voted  (Nay) World of Warcraft's popularity and the state of information security make this incredibly dangerous.  

     

    After recently getting my account hacked, this can only make it easier.   There are so many reasons why this is a bad thing that it makes you wonder what idiot came up with it.   realID in game is an opt-in only.  This forum realID thing is also an opt-in only, but therein is the rub, because the only way to use the forum now is to agree to Blizzards plans to make your first and last name public.   For me this is not an issue, but for many others it can and will cause problems for them on numerous levels.   Boneheaded plan is saying it kindly, but that is what this is and I bet if we dig deep enough you'll find this is all Activisions doing.

    BTW I still believe my account was hacked from the inside.   I think there are people that work for Blizzards customer support that are making money selling gold, items and characters to Gold Farming companies.   Tell me to wear a tin foil hat all you want, but to many people got there accounts hacked to easily and they never once found a trojan or keylogger on their computer - and neither did I.   It seems to happen to inactive accounts more than anyone else...I wonder why that is?   I'll tell you why.   You do the math.  $6.95 US times however many accounts adds up to almost $80 million dollars for those authenticators.   That is no poultry sum of money.   Blizzard is a corporation and with the merger of it to Activision(a money grubbing corporation for certain) then we can bet this whole autenticator business is merely a money grab.   Hack peoples accounts from within the company, generate fear and force people to buy an authenticator.

    I know...tin foil hat right...right....I do not think so.

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  • thexratedthexrated OuluPosts: 1,368Member Common

    Originally posted by bastionix

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

     

    I'm for it, simply because I have nothing to hide.

    Imagine everyone would do the same thing as Blizzard, putting your personal name online with everything you ever said / did.

    Facebook, Credit card companies, Hospitals, Porn sites, Personal messages, Youtube, every forum.

    You absolutely sure you have nothing to hide?

    He is naive and probably young.

    Regardless, I do not think this is a good idea. It should be optional of course, but it is also good to keep in mind that they do give you a choice.

    "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

  • PalebanePalebane Tucson, AZPosts: 3,225Member

    Originally posted by Kraoss

    Crazy people will do crazy things. It is dangerous stepping outside every day.

    Walk into a bar, run your mouth off, act a fool and there will be consequences.

    Don't want to risk it? Don't go to the bar. (Or Forum)

     

    What, they can't take a little negative criticism? That's what it sounds like to me.

    Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.

  • bastionixbastionix xxxxxxxxxxPosts: 547Member



    "We have been planning this change for a very long time. During this time, we have thought ahead about the scope and impact of this change and predicted that many people would no longer wish to post in the forums after this change goes live. We are fine with that, because we want to change these forums dramatically in a positive and more constructive direction."

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626460490&sid=1

    omfg they have lost their mind

  • PalebanePalebane Tucson, AZPosts: 3,225Member

    Originally posted by jonrd463

    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    I think it's great, simply by looking at the responses people have to this. Offcourse people are going to cry a river; they won't be able to forum-grief anymore while hiding behind their "p0wnzo0rz" alias.

    Btw: Blizzard isn't going to magically go bankrupt over this either. Who are people trying to kid?

    Not everyone who is against this is some kind of troll. The old argument "Those who fear for their privacy probably have something to hide." is hollow.

     

    Blizzard may not go bankrupt, but I'm pretty sure this isn't going to just be accepted. The official forum has a thread 800+ pages long and growing, mostly containing people's disagreement with this. Don't think for a moment that every person who disagrees does so because it removes their ability to be an asshole.

    Yes, and it seems that's the kind of behavior they are trying to get rid of. 

    Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.

  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonPosts: 3,191Member

    Originally posted by bastionix



    "We have been planning this change for a very long time. During this time, we have thought ahead about the scope and impact of this change and predicted that many people would no longer wish to post in the forums after this change goes live. We are fine with that, because we want to change these forums dramatically in a positive and more constructive direction."

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626460490&sid=1

    omfg they have lost their mind

     Hahaha this is hilarious

    DRINK SOME MORE TEQUILA , BLIZZARD!

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • IgorchtIgorcht Fairport, NYPosts: 82Member

    I vote for option 1. Blizzard has every right to do this....

     

     

    And I have every right to never play any of their games again. Vote with your wallet.

    "I am the weapon that strikes/In the hearts of men I thrive/Feeding their fear with lies/I will devour/I will divide/I am the god of hellfire/inside every man there lives a liar/before their gods they cower/I will divide/I will devour" - "Divide Devour" by Iced Earth

  • generals3generals3 MehPosts: 3,307Member

    Originally posted by Teala

    I voted  (Nay) World of Warcraft's popularity and the state of information security make this incredibly dangerous.  

     

    After recently getting my account hacked, this can only make it easier.   There are so many reasons why this is a bad thing that it makes you wonder what idiot came up with it.   realID in game is an opt-in only.  This forum realID thing is also an opt-in only, but therein is the rub, because the only way to use the forum now is to agree to Blizzards plans to make your first and last name public.   For me this is not an issue, but for many others it can and will cause problems for them on numerous levels.   Boneheaded plan is saying it kindly, but that is what this is and I bet if we dig deep enough you'll find this is all Activisions doing.

    BTW I still believe my account was hacked from the inside.   I think there are people that work for Blizzards customer support that are making money selling gold, items and characters to Gold Farming companies.   Tell me to wear a tin foil hat all you want, but to many people got there accounts hacked to easily and they never once found a trojan or keylogger on their computer - and neither did I.   It seems to happen to inactive accounts more than anyone else...I wonder why that is?   I'll tell you why.   You do the math.  $6.95 US times however many accounts adds up to almost $80 million dollars for those authenticators.   That is no poultry sum of money.   Blizzard is a corporation and with the merger of it to Activision(a money grubbing corporation for certain) then we can bet this whole autenticator business is merely a money grab.   Hack peoples accounts from within the company, generate fear and force people to buy an authenticator.

    I know...tin foil hat right...right....I do not think so.

     

    I love tin foil hat theories. I got my own about a collaboration between Blizzard and a Gold Selling service. Now the things that made me believe that is that for some reason it was the only gold selling service who prominantly survived throughout my year of playing . (advertisements for other sites came and go , like if something drove them away and that while 1 just didn't want to leave, hmmm...) .

    So ye , i actually believe you. But than again i'm a fan of tin foil hat theories (as long as there is some logic backing it up...)

    Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
    Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.

  • bastionixbastionix xxxxxxxxxxPosts: 547Member

    Originally posted by Malcanis

    Originally posted by bastionix



    "We have been planning this change for a very long time. During this time, we have thought ahead about the scope and impact of this change and predicted that many people would no longer wish to post in the forums after this change goes live. We are fine with that, because we want to change these forums dramatically in a positive and more constructive direction."

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626460490&sid=1

    omfg they have lost their mind

     Hahaha this is hilarious

    DRINK SOME MORE TEQUILA , BLIZZARD!

    I think Blizzard is just trolling right now. Either they're trolling their own players or they've gone batshit insane.

  • mklinicmklinic Pottstown, PAPosts: 1,435Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Malcanis

    Originally posted by BizkitNL


    Originally posted by Malcanis

     

    With a single stroke, Blizzard will ensure that a good porportion of their female players, as well as many from ethnic minorities and "unpopoular" nations and religions will simply leave.

    Huh?

     Let's imagime I am Sammy The Stereotypical Redneck.

    I see Mahmoud Ibn Rahid post on the forums. A damb dirty muslim! A heathen! A freedom-hater! And now I know who his character is too, because he's proud of his level 80 Dark-Elf Cow-Tamer or whatever.

    Do you think Mahmoud is now more likely or less likely to be the receipient of Sammy's ignorant and unwelcome opinions about ay-rabs and allah than before?

    I reckon you ain't from aroun' these parts...What kinna name is Malcanis anyhow? Sounds like one of them terrorists to me.

    -mklinic

    "There's a point I think we're missing.
    It's in the air we raise our fists in."
    -from Behind Closed Doors by Rise Against

  • MunkiMunki Vancouver, BCPosts: 2,128Member

    So many people have such a warped, scared view of the world.

    People steal ID's by swiping Credit Cards, sending out virus. Nobody is going to go through the effort to target you from a videogame forum where they ONLY get your first and last name. If somebody wanted to steal somebodies information they could open up ANY page of the phone book and get a better start.

    Even if they can somehow manage to find information about you by just googling your name, what good does that do them? Are they going to stalk you, no. Are they going to do anything with that information? no.

    Theives have FAR better ways to get the information they need about targets far more valuable than any of you would ever be. You use your real name every day, you show your credit card to minimum wage employee's at walmart every week, you hand your credit card to watiresses. You show your drivers license to bouncers.

    People wear name tags to conventions; do they all lose thier identities, get stalked raped and die? No they dont.

    People are blowing this into a rediculous situation. I personally am VERY glad that Blizzard is doing this, if not just so we can have precident on the internet of people using their real names.

    You can actually find more about my personally by searching my character in WoW's name than my real name, but do I care if people can find out one picture of me from facebook and my music choices on last.fm? No I don't, because that means nothing. If anybody asked me for a picture I'd show them, if anybody asked me what music I listen to I'd say Red Hot Chili Peppers are my favourite band. People are far to paranoid, hopefully this becomes a reality check.

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    after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...

  • MetrictonMetricton Aubrey, TXPosts: 24Member

    I posted this on my guild forum and thought it should be posted here also:

    Yep, whoever thought of the RealID / Real name showing in the forums is a complete idiot and has no respect for privacy.



    I would like to mention, that if this does happen I can imagine quite a few class action lawsuits coming to them. Especially, if the Real name showing is retroactive. Which in turn, shows people names that never agreed to the new TOS. Thus a class action lawsuit would win in a heartbeat.



    Why? Other companies have tried this same type of stuff, but on paper instead and not the internet. However, they were dealt a blow and the lawsuits against them won.



    Also, companies like AT&T have lost lawsuits because they thought they were immune with their TOS / EULA agreement. However, courts ruled that just clicking Accept for the TOS / EULA on a website / software is non legal binding. Thus, the defendant has all the right to sue and the TOS / EULA does not stand a chance in court. Because, even blizzard only uses an ACCEPT button and does not require actual Signing / Digital Signature.



    I know Microsoft has their ass covered when it comes to Subscription to the Actionpack for small business. Every time you wish to resubscribe they have you digitally sign the TOS agreement. Thus, they are covered in court and the TOS is legally binding.



    Even, the government for FASFA for college makes you sign with a legal binding digital signature that is connected to your social / name. Nonetheless, Blizzard does not and will get their asses handed to them in court.

  • uquipuuquipu Roma, PAPosts: 1,516Member


    Originally posted by Metricton
    I posted this on my guild forum and thought it should be posted here also:
    Yep, whoever thought of the RealID / Real name showing in the forums is a complete idiot and has no respect for privacy.I would like to mention, that if this does happen I can imagine quite a few class action lawsuits coming to them. Especially, if the Real name showing is retroactive. Which in turn, shows people names that never agreed to the new TOS. Thus a class action lawsuit would win in a heartbeat.Why? Other companies have tried this same type of stuff, but on paper instead and not the internet. However, they were dealt a blow and the lawsuits against them won.Also, companies like AT&T have lost lawsuits because they thought they were immune with their TOS / EULA agreement. However, courts ruled that just clicking Accept for the TOS / EULA on a website / software is non legal binding. Thus, the defendant has all the right to sue and the TOS / EULA does not stand a chance in court. Because, even blizzard only uses an ACCEPT button and does not require actual Signing / Digital Signature.I know Microsoft has their ass covered when it comes to Subscription to the Actionpack for small business. Every time you wish to resubscribe they have you digitally sign the TOS agreement. Thus, they are covered in court and the TOS is legally binding.Even, the government for FASFA for college makes you sign with a legal binding digital signature that is connected to your social / name. Nonetheless, Blizzard does not and will get their asses handed to them in court.

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    Hmmmm. As many lawyers as blizz has working for it, I wouldn't count my chickens before they were hatched.

    Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren

  • FreeBooteRFreeBooteR Surrey, BCPosts: 333Member

    Put your money where your mouth is. I did.

     


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