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  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member

    Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

    Originally posted by Treekodar


    Originally posted by Nickless_man

    http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=378

    Made my day, cheers!

     

    -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

     Have you heard of the crime of Identity Theft? All they need if your real name and address/e-mail address to get started on a long road that will cost you thousands if not tens of thousands to get fixed. It is a major crime in the modern world and is increasing every year, making it easier for the criminals is not the most intelligent mood. Those who think Identity Theft doesn't happen, or can't happen when only a small amount of your info is released are the ones it happens to the most.

    Yes I have and I also know how it works. Knowing a persons email, address and real name is something you can get almost nothing out of, unless the person you're trying to steal from is a complete moron. It doesn't happen most to those that ignore it, it happens to those that are morons. Gee, I'm so going to make the password for my email my last name because that's so intelligent.

    Eleanor Rigby.

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Shiloh, ILPosts: 864Member

    I guess no one remember's how easy it was for the hackers once Bizzard started making you use an email login. Now they just want to give your email out freely on top of exposing your real name. This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Did they forget how easy it is to pull a persons personal information off the iternet. There are several online business's out there you can get personal information from for just a small fee. They must be trying to hurt there company or this is just the dumbest move this side of the century. This needs to go up on the Epic Fail list.

    ANd just to add to the person above me, Mr. Tree. All you need is there real name to get your Identity stolen. Apparently you do not know how it works, but nice try.

  • catlanacatlana Houston, TXPosts: 1,677Member

    Originally posted by Rakarai

    You guys are all aware that it isn't retroactive on posts?, Also  blue comment 

    "All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name."

    Yeah, you can also choose to tie the ID to any toon or to none at all. Mine will be tied to my Commander from Vanilla that I have not played in a couple of years. I am not too overly worried about this. 

  • MMOrUSMMOrUS great yarmouthPosts: 414Member

    Looking forward to when Blizzard sells it's customers details onto 3rd partys =) you know it's going to happen, if not already so they can squeeze some more cash out of you.

    Also waiting for the first RL attack due to forum abuse, getting access to someones real name makes it alot easier for the ones that wish to do you harm to find you.

     

  • Torment1982Torment1982 Fremont, CAPosts: 156Member

    Anonymity is both the blessing and the curse of the internet.  I think its bold of blizzard to be one of the first to force people to accept that anonymity was a gift that was squandered by people being asshats.  Yes, people are more at risk, which might force people to become more saavy about protecting their information as well as encouraging people to encourage new developments in protecting information.  A lot of people play WoW, if they don't like having their name exposed, but can't stop playing the game then internet security looks a lot more attractive. 

    At the same time if it stops even some of the flaming and troll posting, more power to the exposure, but I suspect it won't... then again, employers troll facebook and myspace for information on prospective employees, imagaine if google turned up forum posts on WoW under your name. 

  • SerpentarSerpentar Freedom, MOPosts: 246Member

    I expect very few people to actually opt in for this. Most are afraid to even post under their main character as it is, and make some silly alt for posting troll BS or whiny BS on those forums. Anyways its easy enough as it is for someone to obtain least your name and address so dont worry too much over it.  Most are after SSNs, Driver License number and so forth for more criminal intent.

  • MMO.MaverickMMO.Maverick WonderlandPosts: 7,619Member

    Originally posted by Treekodar

     -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

    Not that everyone will immediately know where you live with the real name + email address info, but still that argument shows ignorance.

    There are a lot of people who don't like much of their personal information and stuff spread out and easily findable on the internet for all who want it, plus there are a lot of women who don't like to go public with their personal information when they merely want to post - in fact, in that newsthread a number of girl gamers have already commented to be worried or annoyed by the measure because of stalkers and bad experiences they already had with them before this measure that will make it even easier for those kind of people.

    The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

    The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
    Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  • alakramalakram malagaPosts: 2,223Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Qazz

    http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/official-forum-changes-real-life-names-to-be-displayed/

    One of the biggest complaints about WoW is the community.  Let's see how it changes once the trolls are exposed!

    The MMO community will be watching closely to see how this one turns out!

    Another reason to not play wow.

    Edit: What I mean is, no bussines should have the right to expose my name in the internet. I dont know if it's a right, but I'm sure is not ethically correct to do so.

    -=AlaKraM=-
    Don't fight against poverty, fight against greed.
    My Lord of the Rings Gallery

  • TrentmareTrentmare Houston, TXPosts: 9Member
    I thought this was a joke at first. Blizzard has really screwed the pooch with this one. Bye forever to any online Blizzard game for me, forever.
  • BunnykingBunnyking NowherePosts: 113Member Uncommon

    well, never gonna post on those forums again, I guess. Alas.

  • WraithoneWraithone Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 3,592Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Treekodar

    Originally posted by SnarlingWolf


    Originally posted by Treekodar


    Originally posted by Nickless_man

    http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=378

    Made my day, cheers!

     

    -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

     Have you heard of the crime of Identity Theft? All they need if your real name and address/e-mail address to get started on a long road that will cost you thousands if not tens of thousands to get fixed. It is a major crime in the modern world and is increasing every year, making it easier for the criminals is not the most intelligent mood. Those who think Identity Theft doesn't happen, or can't happen when only a small amount of your info is released are the ones it happens to the most.

    Yes I have and I also know how it works. Knowing a persons email, address and real name is something you can get almost nothing out of, unless the person you're trying to steal from is a complete moron. It doesn't happen most to those that ignore it, it happens to those that are morons. Gee, I'm so going to make the password for my email my last name because that's so intelligent.

     

    One doesn't have to be a "moron" to be the victim of identity theft (would that it was that simple).  All it takes is to have ones information scooped up(or sold off) and then used by the huge scam rings that specialize in this. This happens to tens of thousands of people a year. Its such a large problem that the FBI has a special internal department that deals with it now.

    That Blizzard would take such actions demonstrates that who ever is in charge of their security department, either wasn't consulted on this matter, or is totally clue less.  This could expose Blizzard is needless liability, and its bad PR. The sooner people start taking privacy issues seriously, is the sooner crimes like identity theft can be more effectively dealt with.

  • BunnykingBunnyking NowherePosts: 113Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Skudd

    Do keep in mind that you will now be posting under you first and last name. And while there may be quite a few John Does out there, they are also integrating B.net with Facebook (at least for Starcraft 2 so i am sure WoW will get it as well).

     

    I don't think i have to explain to you, what someone with photoshop and and access to your photos through Facebook is capable of doing. Ever heard of 4chan? And this is just one example to the dude above saying what could possibly go wrong. This goes way beyond taking away your right to be an anonymous forum troll.

     

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

     Rules 1 and 2 damnit!

  • CheriseCherise Cincinnati, OHPosts: 232Member

    If I hadn't seen the link to their forums, I would not have believed this.  Just amazing they believe this to be a solution to trolling at the expense of everyone elses privacy.

  • mklinicmklinic Pottstown, PAPosts: 1,435Member Uncommon

    Thinking about this a bit, I suppose you could associate a real name with a character. Then you could make a bogus Facebook account, "Like" everything WarCraft and run a script that goes through all the other fans and farms whatever information people forgot to lock down.

    End result would be a list of people and the characters they match up with which could lead to social engineering scenarios I suppose. For example, you could friend them on FB saying something like "ya, I'm the guild with your character nakedelf." If the person accepts then the same script mentioned previously would just grab all the info on their page that wasn't exposed previously. By the time the person realized and un-friended them, the info is already out there.

    So, that's just a hypothetical off the top of my head. I imagine someone looking to make money would be a lot more motivated and creative about it....

    Personally, I don't think it is a matter of what someone is capable of doing with a real name so much as Blizzard removing one more barrier of abstraction between your character and your personal info.

    -mklinic

    "There's a point I think we're missing.
    It's in the air we raise our fists in."
    -from Behind Closed Doors by Rise Against

  • catlanacatlana Houston, TXPosts: 1,677Member

    Originally posted by Wraithone

    Originally posted by Treekodar


    Originally posted by SnarlingWolf


    Originally posted by Treekodar


    Originally posted by Nickless_man

    http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=378

    Made my day, cheers!

     

    -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

     Have you heard of the crime of Identity Theft? All they need if your real name and address/e-mail address to get started on a long road that will cost you thousands if not tens of thousands to get fixed. It is a major crime in the modern world and is increasing every year, making it easier for the criminals is not the most intelligent mood. Those who think Identity Theft doesn't happen, or can't happen when only a small amount of your info is released are the ones it happens to the most.

    Yes I have and I also know how it works. Knowing a persons email, address and real name is something you can get almost nothing out of, unless the person you're trying to steal from is a complete moron. It doesn't happen most to those that ignore it, it happens to those that are morons. Gee, I'm so going to make the password for my email my last name because that's so intelligent.

     

    One doesn't have to be a "moron" to be the victim of identity theft (would that it was that simple).  All it takes is to have ones information scooped up(or sold off) and then used by the huge scam rings that specialize in this. This happens to tens of thousands of people a year. Its such a large problem that the FBI has a special internal department that deals with it now.

    That Blizzard would take such actions demonstrates that who ever is in charge of their security department, either wasn't consulted on this matter, or is totally clue less.  This could expose Blizzard is needless liability, and its bad PR. The sooner people start taking privacy issues seriously, is the sooner crimes like identity theft can be more effectively dealt with.

    First, off most ID theft specialists need the credit report, driver's id, and SSN. This is usually given to them from an inside contact at a car dealer, store credit department, etc. This makes filling out the paper work much easier. What Blizz is doing is nothing more than Facebook lite. 

  • SnarlingWolfSnarlingWolf Thereiam, ARPosts: 2,697Member

    Originally posted by Treekodar

    Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

    Originally posted by Treekodar

    Originally posted by Nickless_man

    http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=378

    Made my day, cheers!

     

    -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

     Have you heard of the crime of Identity Theft? All they need if your real name and address/e-mail address to get started on a long road that will cost you thousands if not tens of thousands to get fixed. It is a major crime in the modern world and is increasing every year, making it easier for the criminals is not the most intelligent mood. Those who think Identity Theft doesn't happen, or can't happen when only a small amount of your info is released are the ones it happens to the most.

    Yes I have and I also know how it works. Knowing a persons email, address and real name is something you can get almost nothing out of, unless the person you're trying to steal from is a complete moron. It doesn't happen most to those that ignore it, it happens to those that are morons. Gee, I'm so going to make the password for my email my last name because that's so intelligent.

     The naivety of this statement is staggering, as others have also pointed out. First off you can be intelligent and take precautions and still suffer from identity theft. It isn't a 100% preventable crime. Secondly making a statement like you did above helps show the lack of intelligence you have on the issue, which increases the chances you will suffer from it.

     

    Between people like you, and companies like Blizzard, it is no surprise that the identity theft crime rate increases by over 20% each year and allows it to be the fastest growing crime in the US.

  • Glad I ignore the WoW forums like the plague. Now they are truly just going to be worthless.

  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member

    Originally posted by cyphers

    Originally posted by Treekodar



     -Edit: Do you know what they can do with your e-mail and your real name + your address? Yea, not much.

    Who cares if people know where you live, what are they going to do about it? Order pizzas to our home? Oh noes I'm scared now.

    Not that everyone will immediately know where you live with the real name + address info, but still that argument shows ignorance.

    There are a lot of people who don't like much of their personal information and stuff spread out and easily findable on the internet for all who want it, plus there are a lot of women who don't like to go public with their personal information when they merely want to post - in fact, in that newsthread a number of girl gamers have already commented to be worried or annoyed by the measure because of stalkers and bad experiences they already had with them before this measure that will make it even easier for those kind of people.

    I can't relate to getting stalked because I simply do not care. If guys have to put up with annoying trolls and obese girls threatening to come beat you up with an iron rod, then why shouldn't women have to put up with it too? The whole point was to get rid of trolls and if by exposing them they succeed at that, then there's no point in feeling hurt about it. If they however don't succeed, then it could indeed get troublesome with stalkers and your usual pedophile, but if they get exposed then they end up where they're supposed to be any way - in jail.

     

    @Snarlingwolf. Since you have limited insight in the matter I don't get why you're still commenting about it.

    Eleanor Rigby.

  • zevianzevian toledo, OHPosts: 401Member Uncommon

    I personally plan on quitting at cataclysm, i have been considering it for a while but for a company to be so flagrent with my personal information is ludacris.   Even on official company forums i have an alias. and imagine joining a fantasy online game to get away from real life.  

     

    5+ years has been long enough in this game, the way your going in the future turns me off.  

  • kellerman24kellerman24 HellPosts: 87Member

    Originally posted by alakram

    Originally posted by Qazz

    http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/official-forum-changes-real-life-names-to-be-displayed/

    One of the biggest complaints about WoW is the community.  Let's see how it changes once the trolls are exposed!

    The MMO community will be watching closely to see how this one turns out!

    Another reason to not play wow.

    Edit: What I mean is, no bussines should have the right to expose my name in the internet. I dont know if it's a right, but I'm sure is not ethically correct to do so.

    As much as I hated trolls during my WoW days, I agree. This isn't a solution ... and it defintely won't stop people from trolling. I know I wouldn't stop ... it just makes additional problems as many of you described.

  • BlackWatchBlackWatch OKC, OKPosts: 983Member

    I keep waiting for them to come back and post 'JUST KIDDING' or something along those lines.  But, I guess we're well past April 1.

    As for the direction they are heading...

    What's next?  Giving out A/S/L as well? 

    How hard is it to create a fake 'real id' or fake 'internet id'?

    Go through the process and see exactly how much information you can falsify. 

    1) Enter 0 personal information on the internet account that you create: gmail, hotmail, etc.,..

    2) Don't use a credit card or paypal account to pay for your game time.  Use a game card.

    3) Don't use accurate address information OR use a PO Box (or 3rd party maildrop service.

    While I think what Blizz is doing is absolutely moronic, as long as I can either A) opt out of their little program here OR B) create the fake 'real id/internet id/battlenet.id', it's still annoying but I can deal with it if I have to... for now.

     

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  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member

    Originally posted by BlackWatch

    I keep waiting for them to come back and post 'JUST KIDDING' or something along those lines.  But, I guess we're well past April 1.

    As for the direction they are heading...

    What's next?  Giving out A/S/L as well? 

    How hard is it to create a fake 'real id' or fake 'internet id'?

    Go through the process and see exactly how much information you can falsify. 

    1) Enter 0 personal information on the internet account that you create: gmail, hotmail, etc.,..

    2) Don't use a credit card or paypal account to pay for your game time.  Use a game card.

    3) Don't use accurate address information OR use a PO Box (or 3rd party maildrop service.

    While I think what Blizz is doing is absolutely moronic, as long as I can either A) opt out of their little program here OR B) create the fake 'real id/internet id/battlenet.id', it's still annoying but I can deal with it if I have to... for now.

     

    1) Use a VPN located in say Scotland.

    2) Choose address from Scotland.

    3) Fake all email information.

    4a) Fake PayPal information (easier than one would assume) or

    4b) Do like you said, use a game card.

    There you go, they have no idea where you really live. Yes they can ask the VPN provider to give out details, but that is rare and most of the time your provider won't do that.

    Eleanor Rigby.

  • AericynAericyn Jita, WAPosts: 394Member Uncommon

    Blizzard's oil spill.

     

    Soon to be followed with Blizzard's TopKill plan, soon to be followed by Blizard's Stopgap, soon to be follwed with a decline in revenue. Pink slips handed out to Blizzard employees, and as Activision tries to distance itself from disaster. Blizzard becomes victim to hostile takeover by small Korean startup MMO company. All assets are moved to North Korea and Kim Jong IL renames DeathWing to "Kim Jong the Best Beast!"

  • MMO.MaverickMMO.Maverick WonderlandPosts: 7,619Member

    I think we can sum up the results of this measure on the WoW forums pretty much like this:

     

    Goodbye trolls pit, welcome stalker heaven.

    The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

    The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
    Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  • TreekodarTreekodar jlkjklPosts: 524Member

    Originally posted by cyphers

    I think we can sum up the results of this measure on the WoW forums pretty much like this:

     

    Goodbye trolls pit, welcome stalker heaven.

    unfortunately I will say that you are correct, but if people really want to troll they'll just fill in false information. So what we end up with is a proving ground for stalkers and hardcore trolls.

    Eleanor Rigby.

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