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Man what a ridiculous reason not to play a game...
I find the guy talking about Asia 5000 years ago like it pre-dates everything fairly humorous. Clothes from a biblical stand point come from Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. The fruit brought them knowledge of good and evil, with that came shame. Adam and Eve hid from God in their nakedness and were commanded to put clothes on. I'm sure from a bibilical stand point the first two people pre-date Asia.
Clothes have been found on remains of cavemen. So from the evolutionary stand point they probably wore clothes pending weather as stated before. In warmer climates probably just enough to cover sensitive area. This can be seen still in remote primative tribes all over the world.
Finally, why has no one pointed out the fact the OP was able to spell out "penis" and not vagina? Is he scared of them more so than a one eyed snake monster? Closets aren't just for clothes you know.
Lol you are worried about nudity in a game that all about Blood, Murder, Decapitation, Theft lol Nudity is a natural thing murder isn't, GoGo Christians.
Really if you are offended by nudity in a Adult game and not offended with bloody murder there something wrong with you.
I can see if the males got an erection and you can start having sex with people in the game then yes lol,
Originally posted by Fortenc Wow this community is wonderful nowadays.Last time I try to use an example including religion in any way to move into a point. Yes, other cultures wore clothing ceremoniously, as a show of status, prestige and job and even to cover themselves up far beyond Christianity and it was pushed on cultures before the Christians did it. The fact still remains that it is a well known event that Christians went around to a lot of the arguably*** less civilized areas and preached the lack of clothing to cover the sensitive areas of the bodies as shameful. Nudity was not shameful in these areas beforehand and the Christians at that time, as many cultures did before, pushed shame on other cultures.Fuck me for not including every era beforehand and all over the world as an example to simply point out that there was a time when not wearing clothing was A-O.K and didn't cause people to scream out in fear and disgust.Whatever. Thanks for hijacking the thread to religion simply because I use an example that, while true, doesn't explain every single thing that ever happened considering clothing and shame in the history of mankind.. and beyond! Feel free to blame me for now I only exacerbate the issue.Sorry for not writing you a history of religion in order to make an example. Take my official apology.
Fortenc - It's not only about clothing, of course ancient civilizations wore clothing, it was cold, or sunny, or whatever. I think the point you missed is that religions, more societies to be exact, had ideas of modesty long before the birth of Christ. Your post was just weird.
As far as MO goes they seem to just be pushing the envelope already touched on by AOC and a few other games. I probably would'nt play it ion front of kids or girlfriends (unless they understood you type). Overall I find the inclusion of nudity silly, but not offensive.
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Originally posted by Knightcry I find the guy talking about Asia 5000 years ago like it pre-dates everything fairly humorous. Clothes from a biblical stand point come from Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. The fruit brought them knowledge of good and evil, with that came shame. Adam and Eve hid from God in their nakedness and were commanded to put clothes on. I'm sure from a bibilical stand point the first two people pre-date Asia.Clothes have been found on remains of cavemen. So from the evolutionary stand point they probably wore clothes pending weather as stated before. In warmer climates probably just enough to cover sensitive area. This can be seen still in remote primative tribes all over the world.Finally, why has no one pointed out the fact the OP was able to spell out "penis" and not vagina? Is he scared of them more so than a one eyed snake monster? Closets aren't just for clothes you know.
That's funny Knightcry, considering the "christian" faith could not possibly have existed 5000 years ago. No half-educated christian will make the claim that there were Christians before you know who?
Nudity will pull in the basement dwellers that seem to be a growing percentage and have never seen a RL naked female.
Originally posted by grandpagamer Nudity will pull in the basement dwellers that seem to be a growing percentage and have never seen a RL naked female.
Originally posted by Banhammer16 Originally posted by Fortenc Human beings used to have absolutely no inhibitions towards being naked around other human beings. No other animal does. Christians brought about clothing and decency and, though the reason behind the concept is questionable, clothing is awesome. Choice is pretty awesome too, though, and how people act towards nudity nowadays is laughable. Everyone is easily offended on all sides.Hopefully, however, civilization is moving towards being more accepting and this is a good show of that for MMOs. Having the option to play a game that has the option to be naked is a good thing.Who knows if I'll buy the game or not but it's a good social experiment and a good thing for open-mindedness, creativity and freedom for the industry and the world in general (whether they take notice or not).Yay!
ummm Christians did not bring about clothing and decency. People wore cloths years before mainly due to harsh weather conditions. Dont sprout facts when you dont know what your talking about. tyvm
I think your comment could apply to you as well, Christians and other "organized" religion brought shame of our natural state and so please cover the goodies....while weather had some affect your declarative statement was full of "you do not know what your talking about as well."
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My thoughts on the nudity...eh..I guess for some it will be appealing but the real thing wins every time....staring at a meat whistle flopping around while I am trying to dirtnap some other guy would just make me want to use my sword and whack it off...odd in my mind but certainly not a deal breaker....though you gotta wonder at the sexual orientation of the artists and animators...
You know you are old when the dev's on the games you play are almost young enough to be your grand-kids.
I don't really see what the big deal is nor do I see the need to pull in religion. There is religion and there is RELIGION.
religion is a very private thing that certainly will not be the same among everyone, regardless if you share the same faith. And RELIGION is all the higher level hulabaloo that is layered over any religion.
So the guy doesn't like nudity in games. Personally, though I'm all for nudity in the right context, I think it's superfluous and the game would be just as successful if the avatars had permanent underwear over genitals and breasts.
I dont' see where bearing the calling card "nudity is better than violence" really makes one's point stronger considering that I would say most of us think that violence, real violence is a bad thing.
But as we all know this is not "real" violence but is just game/combat violence. I highly doubt that most of us really want to sever another person's head and hang it in our living room. I'm fairly certain that most of us would be profoundly affected if we blew another person's head off or ran him/her through with a sword.
We tend to turn a blind eye toward movie and game violence because it is more story based. Most little kids (well perhaps boys but some girls I imagine) have played with toy guns or sticks that took the place of guns (my mother would not allow toy guns except for laser guns and phasers. Go figure) and took out an outlaw gang or saved the universe from the zorgs or captured dinosaurs for study and genetic assimilation.
I'm pretty sure most children, with the exception of some Doctors here and there, didn't play whores and pimps or stripper pole, or playboy mansion, or games based on Woodstock or Burning man or nude beach bingo. We get used to what we get used to.
Yes, there is a stigma on nudity and quite frankly that could be a good thing considering that most of us don't look amazing naked. I've been to the gym, I've seen the older flabby out of shape men in the locker room and thanked whatever powers that be that we have clothes to shield me from that sight on the streets of Boston.
Though I don't agree with the OP's decision at least I applaud him for it as most people don't take stands on anything. I see people who are vegetarians because of humane reasons but they still wear leather, I see people who crusade about saving the environment but they still purchase goods wrapped/stored in plastic.
I'll assume the OP has very personal and profound feelings about nudity. Who am I to say he is wrong. As I've stated before, all of us have our own quirks and when put under the microscope those quirks would probably not stand up well in the light of day.
Especially when some of those quirks might bleed over to playing Mortal Online completely nude and dancing in the fort square (assuming that it has some sort of dancing). If people thought wow was bad, wait until some 12 or 13 year olds get their hands on their very own avatars... "tee hee... look at ME".
What a way to ruin immersion.
."This is why religion sucks.. you can't even mention it without pissing at least 50% of the population off. I wish everyone would just keep their retarded beliefs to themselves because nobody gives a shit"
Except maybe that 50% of the population you mentioned?
Someone needs a Jesus hug.
Good post Sovrath.
Originally posted by Warjin Lol you are worried about nudity in a game that all about Blood, Murder, Decapitation, Theft lol Nudity is a natural thing murder isn't, GoGo Christians.
Murder isn't natural? What planet do you live on? People have been killing each other as long as there have been people. Don't blame nudity taboos on Christions either it predates Christianity by several thousand years at least. It's societal not religious.
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As long as theirs a "paper bag" item for the ugly ones.
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films have been doing it for years whats the problem?
Dalevi1, I do love those that think Christians just sprung out of no where. They tend to forget that they were Jews before Christ. There was a time before Him as well. Adam and Eve were neither, worship and religon started later.
I'm not what most would call "holy" but I do tend to read to learn what the truth is.
Does not bother me either way. I just personally see it as an attempt to keep the younger crowd out of the game, but it will probably do just the opposite.
Nudity and sex in video games does nothing for me, leave it out and concentrate on gameplay features instead of dongs and boobs IMO.
Originally posted by Tethered ....staring at a meat whistle flopping around... would just make me want to... whack it off...odd in my mind but certainly not a deal breaker....though you gotta wonder at the sexual orientation of the artists and animators...
Quick edit for fun... had to do it, lol.
im curious, i mean theres games that have boob motion, where the naked boobies sway, bounce n jiggle, like the sega games with beach volley ball girls (forget the names)
Does this mean the dudes bits will realistically sway, flop (when jumping) or helecopter when running naked? or will they just remain perfectally still, and will they shrink if your char is in snowy mountains or in front of a group of female toons that your chars embarrased by beoing near (or the opposite) lol
Originally posted by Knightcry Dalevi1, I do love those that think Christians just sprung out of no where. They tend to forget that they were Jews before Christ. There was a time before Him as well. Adam and Eve were neither, worship and religon started later. I'm not what most would call "holy" but I do tend to read to learn what the truth is.
And...it has nothing to do with nudity in a video game. Yes, Judaism before Christ, Issac and Abraham before both, Polytheism vs. Monotheism before them. The Adam and Eve fairy-tale aside, worship as you state started in the most ancient of organized civilizations, Near-East or Middle-East as Iraq, Iran, Syria, and as far to India is referenced to in modern historical academia. You are right, worship started long before "him"...I respond to that with Duh, Really?
Modesty did not start with Christ. But as I understand you get that.
Back to the nude avatars...
Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.
Originally posted by Xondar123 Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.
Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.
I dare you.
I think it's situational. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
For instance, did you see Watchmen? If you did you might think that the sex scene they included was awkward (if not silly and laughable) and that the movie could have just done without it.
But if you see the movies "Secret Things" (Choses secrètes) and "The Exterminating Angels" (Les anges exterminateurs) it works and works very well! Well enough that both movies are in my collection.
And as I said before, it's ok to not like something. I don't feel that everyone should be forced to like nudity added to content. just so long as I have the choice to view it and that it is done well.
I would rather NOT see nudity if it is going to feel cheesy or tacked on (well, unless of course the point is that it's supposed to be cheezy) and just put there to garner viewership.
im going to skip most of the replies as it seems a vast majorty are bible thumping or QQing..
anyway.. to QQ about nudity must be very harsh for you.. i mean here you are...having to get naked in the shower.. and see your self... or perhaps your not a basement dweller and maybe have a gf/wife..mistress who knows... and you see them naked....
oh my cant have that...
honestly all these prudish QQing biggots are really annoying.. if people want to see people naked... they will... if they are naked in a video game O_O so what.. you can get mods for games like The Sims that make your pixals naked... why should MO be any diffrent??? i have no problem with nudies in a game tho it has to be done tastefully... nothing worse then seeing hentai style nude chicks...
size 10 waist... size 10 hips... size 9000 bust... >> i mean honestly... as long as its done tastefully and not just throwin like some cheap porno... there shouldnt be a problem people will abuse the game anyway... look at WoW people have sex in that and its got 0 nudity.. lmao
^ if the above offends you great.. if you agree or disagree.. great... honestly its my opionon and so nothing else really matters.. more power to the OP if s/he doesnt want to play a game with possible nudity their call.. shouldnt stop others or affect game play if a person is nude or not..
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Originally posted by Gishgeron Originally posted by Xondar123 Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.
I don't have to because I see your mom naked every night.
Edit: Holy crap, people here have a major Oedipus Complex going on...